They're just banning plastic bags next year if the fee fails, you know.
What-- you didn't think the City Council would want to be left holding the bag on this, did you? Nope, here comes a real honest-to-goodness ban, following the footsteps of Edmonds.
Men are vastly more conservative in general, and this rarely gets talked about. Gore and Kerry would have won easily, and Proposition 8 would have failed easily if men voted like women.
@7: From polling analysis, it's simple: people understand that plastic bags are bad, and would certainly go along with a ban, but it becomes a problem when you conflate plastic bags (bad) with paper bags (fine) and a fee(bad). It sounds like the city isn't missing an opportunity to make some money and they haven't clearly explained what they're going to do with it.
People are willing to accept a strictly environmental move, but they have a hard time with anything that is seemingly greenwashed. This is why Roads and Transit failed but Prop 1 passed. Get rid of the fee and limit the scope to plastic bags and it would pass.
@13, paper bags are even worse than plastic when you factor in the pollution coming from the paper production. In places like SF that tried a fee, but had to do a ban after a similar effort from the American Chemistry Council to block them, found that banning plastic by itself let to big problems from all the extra paper bag use.
@12, the bag campaign hasn't used robocallers. WTF?
@17 - don't care, friends can disagree on this. I still like Mike.
Actually, paper bags have a higher rate of reuse - remember, it's reduce reuse recycle - but then you probably buy water in disposable plastic bottles you buy when you drive to the cool grocery store 20 miles away, right?
What-- you didn't think the City Council would want to be left holding the bag on this, did you? Nope, here comes a real honest-to-goodness ban, following the footsteps of Edmonds.
i mean, cud you imagine nickels vs mallahan??!?!
mccain would have won easily if women voted like men
Come back when you're ready to ban plastic bags like grownups, ok?
Any ballot issue that uses robocallers loses my vote.
People are willing to accept a strictly environmental move, but they have a hard time with anything that is seemingly greenwashed. This is why Roads and Transit failed but Prop 1 passed. Get rid of the fee and limit the scope to plastic bags and it would pass.
@13, paper bags are even worse than plastic when you factor in the pollution coming from the paper production. In places like SF that tried a fee, but had to do a ban after a similar effort from the American Chemistry Council to block them, found that banning plastic by itself let to big problems from all the extra paper bag use.
@12, the bag campaign hasn't used robocallers. WTF?
Actually, paper bags have a higher rate of reuse - remember, it's reduce reuse recycle - but then you probably buy water in disposable plastic bottles you buy when you drive to the cool grocery store 20 miles away, right?