wow. everyone's "done deal" is going to crumble like a....like a....oh i wish there was a big piece of old, deteriorating infrastructure that i could use to complete my simile!...
"However, the viaduct is crumblingāit threatens to collapse on drivers if anyone sneezesāand the state has an urgent interest making sure people aren't caught in a human juicer."
Oh My God!! The viaduct is crumbling. We need to replace it immediately with whatever the state dictates, no matter the costs or other impacts.
Huh... What's that... It's been like that for 8 years? The deep bore tunnel wasn't even considered until about a year ago? All the other plans that had preliminary studies were dismissed? Even the ones previously preferred by the WSDOT?
Elizabeth Campbell, now grasping for attention, latches onto whatever is on the front page of the daily metro newspaper.
Will McGinn do pro bono work here, or will Elizabeth Campbell... Or is she getting paid to do this by, oh, I do not know, 3 degrees of separation from McGinn.
If there is linkage, she has a bigger problem than that run for mayor.
Quite frankly, it will not be too hard to hard to find a coule loose facts that are similar enough to imply linkage (not like I write for the Stranger or Publicola, but it is similar bs).
I'm not a huge fan of the tunnel, but...
1. You don't have to shut down the viaduct for 5 years while building it.
2. It also gives you the additional surface street option when it's all done.
The reasons I'm not a big fan?
1. It's expensive.
2. You lose the view while stuck in traffic.
How can people who seem so smart, be so dumb when it comes to reality?
This state is no more sophisticated than Hazzard County. Boss Hogg owns everything...if he wants a trolley, he gits a trolley. If Boss Hogg wants a tunnel...he gits a tunnel...same as he gets a Light Rail and gets them to flood Kent Valley because he wants his real estate holdings to go up.
Everyone here with their big brains and middle class salaries are pathetic powerless buffoons.
"However, the viaduct is crumblingāit threatens to collapse on drivers if anyone sneezesāand the state has an urgent interest making sure people aren't caught in a human juicer."
The viaduct can be torn down within 2-3 years, the surface and transit improvements put into place, and then then a tunnel can be studied and bored later if the surface/transit advocates are wrong and the city shuts down. That, in fact, is what the Governor's stakeholder group recommended. It was only because of big business pressure that the governor insisted a tunnel be built first.
So long as they wait until after the vote has been certified, it makes the issuance of a contract highly problematic.
In war, you don't fight just one battle. You push your enemy into a no-win situation and make him think he has an escape route - but use that as the kill zone.
Seattle doesn't want the Billionaires' Tunnel. And you know it.
I love traffic.......Nothing is better than being stuck in traffic with a blasting headache and fresh coffee spilled on the inside of my car do to a suddne stop in traffic.
Oh yea I love to pay taxes. Lets see another sales tax. Oh maybe an income tax. Oh this is great.
Darn, hey thanks a lot Sue!!!!
I was looking forward to getting stuck in traffic. Oh this tunnel was going to be fantastic. I have fantasies of hours in traffic.
Another dime or two on the gas tax and hey maybe a sales tax of around 10%. That would have been great.
Oh well maybe the our great govener and visionary mayor can still persevere.
that thing is viafuct.
I love it when you pro-tunnel bigots have to eat crow.
Seriously, you said it couldn't be stopped.
The battle hasn't even started.
Oh My God!! The viaduct is crumbling. We need to replace it immediately with whatever the state dictates, no matter the costs or other impacts.
Huh... What's that... It's been like that for 8 years? The deep bore tunnel wasn't even considered until about a year ago? All the other plans that had preliminary studies were dismissed? Even the ones previously preferred by the WSDOT?
OK now I'm just confused.
Will McGinn do pro bono work here, or will Elizabeth Campbell... Or is she getting paid to do this by, oh, I do not know, 3 degrees of separation from McGinn.
If there is linkage, she has a bigger problem than that run for mayor.
Quite frankly, it will not be too hard to hard to find a coule loose facts that are similar enough to imply linkage (not like I write for the Stranger or Publicola, but it is similar bs).
http://blog.seattlepi.com/transportation…
1. You don't have to shut down the viaduct for 5 years while building it.
2. It also gives you the additional surface street option when it's all done.
The reasons I'm not a big fan?
1. It's expensive.
2. You lose the view while stuck in traffic.
This state is no more sophisticated than Hazzard County. Boss Hogg owns everything...if he wants a trolley, he gits a trolley. If Boss Hogg wants a tunnel...he gits a tunnel...same as he gets a Light Rail and gets them to flood Kent Valley because he wants his real estate holdings to go up.
Everyone here with their big brains and middle class salaries are pathetic powerless buffoons.
That $4.1 billion price tag comes to some $6800 per resident, so start saving!
I don't care who you are, that's funny right there.
"However, the viaduct is crumblingāit threatens to collapse on drivers if anyone sneezesāand the state has an urgent interest making sure people aren't caught in a human juicer."
The viaduct can be torn down within 2-3 years, the surface and transit improvements put into place, and then then a tunnel can be studied and bored later if the surface/transit advocates are wrong and the city shuts down. That, in fact, is what the Governor's stakeholder group recommended. It was only because of big business pressure that the governor insisted a tunnel be built first.
WiS it will be really sweet to watch all these lawsuits get thrown out of court, and the tunnel finally going forward.
Enough already.
Fucking obstructionists.
In war, you don't fight just one battle. You push your enemy into a no-win situation and make him think he has an escape route - but use that as the kill zone.
Seattle doesn't want the Billionaires' Tunnel. And you know it.
(waits while the tumblers click in in Ralph's brain)
Actually, we have a lot of people who were in the military here - you just don't know it.
I love traffic.......Nothing is better than being stuck in traffic with a blasting headache and fresh coffee spilled on the inside of my car do to a suddne stop in traffic.
Oh yea I love to pay taxes. Lets see another sales tax. Oh maybe an income tax. Oh this is great.
Darn, hey thanks a lot Sue!!!!
I was looking forward to getting stuck in traffic. Oh this tunnel was going to be fantastic. I have fantasies of hours in traffic.
Another dime or two on the gas tax and hey maybe a sales tax of around 10%. That would have been great.
Oh well maybe the our great govener and visionary mayor can still persevere.
I sure would hate to have my vote count.
Why Elizabeth, I think you created a filibuster.
Unless you have an alternative to rebuilding that costs less while not reducing traffic capacity, then STFU.