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Or maybe Linda Reed. Or Nita Colt-Shower.
Second: You were GORGEOUS. I can't believe you won't do drag anymore. Bitch.
yeah shameless plug, whatever, hehe. we could swap stories, we have a 'friend' in common.
That last picture is me backstage at Re-bar during the run of Greek Active's Macbeth.
That last picture is I backstage at Re-bar during the run of Greek Active's Macbeth.
"Me" is correct, "I" is not.
I wish I had someone like Zora to do my makeup, I have never got the art down.
A friend of mine swears that several years ago he saw you on UW campus once in drag as . . . some local conservative lady politician of whom you were making fun. Can you confirm/deny/provide the name of said politician?
A guy may be gay, but he's still a guy. Women are fundamentally different and not to be lampooned for purposes of outrageousness.
I'll be honest - I'm not all that worked up about it, but it's a fun argument.
Now I want a paranym after a font.
What am I to explain? That I can't put on eyeliner to save my life or false lashes?
I think that the makeup is elaborate, because it is for the stage, vivid so it can be seen at a distance. I've always seen drag, as performance art. Some may see it as something else. That is because I used to perform and compete as a dancer. I've only performed in drag once in my life, as a dude. I wore combat fatigues, boots, a hat, a sock in my crotch, and had facial hair. It was fun to "fiddle" with junk I didn't actually have.
Now I'm all happy/sad.
Thank you. I do actually wear some, though minimal, makeup.
What can I say? It's fun. Lots of fun. Any time you wear any kind of a costume, it gives you a license to be someone different than the person who looks back from the mirror every day. Nothing wrong with that.
And if you haven't done it, go ahead. You won't regret it.
It is I.
He hits me.
Sorry.
Also, kill yourself if you care what the answer is.
yeah, that's about I see it. Drag kings and queens usually make fun of the stereotypes and cultural pressures with respect to sexuality and gender, not of actual men and women.
What I never got. . . is why is it a gayman© thing? (exception to #36) I just don't see the connection. They're good at it. . . but (shrug?)
i dunno. . . is it that the gay community allows for more playfulness and flexibility with gender? Is it just tradition? Way back when everybody was too drunk at the party to remember why they thought it was a good idea?
I need answers internets. Answers!
More questions:
So, if I (being a woman) dressed up all flashy and garish (no offense, but that is kind of the point,as I understand it) would I classify as being 'in drag'? Or, only if I dressed as a man? Do women ever dress up in drag and attend these sorts of evenings?
Are men in drag generally assumed to be gay?
For some people, it must be more of a fetish thing than just 'fun', right? Or, an identity thing, for transvestites? Is drag popular with transwomen?
Are there common events where women dress in drag as men? Or, is that not really a 'thing' like the reverse is?
So, if I (being a woman) dressed up all flashy and garish (no offense, but that is kind of the point,as I understand it) would I classify as being 'in drag'? Or, only if I dressed as a man? Only if you're dressed as a man; but you can still get some idea of the fun getting "all dolled-up."
Do women ever dress up in drag and attend these sorts of evenings? Sure; see Emma's link.
Are men in drag generally assumed to be gay? Yes, but it's not always true.
For some people, it must be more of a fetish thing than just 'fun', right? Yes, there's that contingent. You have to admit that all those slippery, sensuous clothes can be kind of a turn-on sometimes.
Is drag popular with transwomen? I can't answer that, but maybe someone else can.
Emma's Bee has your back.
If your curious give it a try. Halloween or Mardi Gras might be a great time. It is a kick. I have breeder friends, they're married, who switch genders every Halloween for a talent show.
also google "Faux queen" (see also: Lady Gaga)
Men in drag are generally assumed to be gay, but that's not always fair or accurate.
Drag is generally considered distinct and separate from (though sometimes overlapping) fetish-transvestitism or Mtf / Ftm transsexualism. Transwomen aren't monolithic enough to all share one opinion on it. Some find it offensive or appopriative I'm sure. Others see it as a piece of gay male culture that can be offensive or can be awesome. Some transwomen have been drag queens either as an initial foray into their gender expression or as a career in which they don't need to worry so much about discrimination.
I bet you looked delightful as a woman.
That was also a performance where you (Dan) pulled my dearest friend onto the stage during a banquet scene. His name was Devin and your conversation went like this:
Dan the witch: Oh I know who I want for my date. I've had my eye on you. (and then, upon seeing Dev's pecs) hey, what's this? You're not supposed to have bigger tits than the drag queen!"
(later, sitting down and snuggling with Devin): You're really cute. Are you straight?
Devin: No.
I'll remember that night forever Dan because it was one the last times I saw Devin before he and his partner got sick. They both died about a year before the HIV cocktails came into common use. So your witch, Macbeth and my sweetest friend are forever linked in my mind.
It means you're a bigger journalism dork than you are a fag. Officially.
Lookin' good, though. :-)
Dee @25, what's not to get? The point is entertainment. It's basically burlesque with a gender twist, enabling lots of innuendo, usually in the form of double entendres. I haven't seen a ton of drag shows, but the ones I have seen (in London) were very, very good -- funny and touching both.
@24, you're wrong. Drag doesn't "lampoon women," it send up feminine gender conventions, and it does this by exaggerating them wildly, calling attention to their fakeness and showing that gender is more performance than biology. (And Judith Butler used this idea to create the foundations of gender theory, although she separated gender performance, which is not voluntary, from drag, which is.) This "fundamental difference" you're talking about is completely superficial -- women are not born wearing high heels and fake eyelashes. Take it from RuPaul: "I do not impersonate females! How many women do you know who wear seven-inch heels, four-foot wigs, and skintight dresses?" And: "I don't dress like a woman; I dress like a drag queen!" (wikipedia)
And 5280: See, this is why you have managed to win me over. I disagree with you on almost everything, but once in a while you turn around and surprise me. Plus, you cracked me up on that ball-shaving thread. Cheers!
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it's more of a gay man thing. Not a trans thing. There are some crossdressers that 'do' drag... But as others have said, it's a performance not an idenity.
Party People All around me feeling hot hot hot
so we go rum bum bum bum, hot hot hot
Me mind on fire, me soul on fire, felling hot hot hot
people in the party, they feeling hot hot hot
they come to the party know what they got
Ole ~ Ole ~ Ole ~ Ole
Ole ~ Ole ~ Ole ~ Ole
They come to the party, know what they got
I'm hot, you're hot, he's hot, she's hot
How ya feeling? Hot Hot Hot
Come on let's do it, felling hot hot hot
No Regular Joe at this beauty queen party.
I think more appropriate names might have been Lotta Pancake or Spackle Plenty.
I think even a space-alien could "get" drag, so why can't Stranger readers? For fuck's sake, it's been done since dresses were worn by men on a daily basis.
Geez the Pinks are everywhere.
Anyway, Dan looks awesome. Nice lines!
Mine is Lucky Park.
10 - Those are hilarious.
My favorite drag queen name is "Heleva Bottom-Parter," a reference to Helena Bonham Carter.
I've never been to a drag show but years ago I dated a woman who took me to a Halloween party in Tacoma where all the men were in drag. Some looked like women, and some did not (I still remember one short guy with a neck, arms and legs like tree trunks.) A few hours into the party, I see this stunning Asian woman come walk into the room. I turned to my girlfriend and said, "OK, now that's not a guy, right?". She laughed and said, "Oh yes it is...that's 'Miss Drag Tacoma' (or something like that)." The guy was Filipino and had very fine features which helped him look feminine. And, without all the makeup, he was probably a very good-looking man too.
The next day I told my friends about the evening, including my reaction upon seeing the gorgeous "woman." One friend, the most homophobic, insisted he wouldn't have found her attractive and, try as I might, I couldn't convince him otherwise.
It was a great talk, I believe you had to be escorted to and from your car by campus police. I wonder if that would still be the case now?
2) The occasional transsexual woman does perform in drag — as as a drag king. I can still sorta do a young Morten Harket if I manage to get the makeup to do the chiselled contours just right.
3) Drag is performance. It's show. It's a lot of fun to be around, even if you're an audience or a spectator. It's eye candy for the flâneur (or flâneuse).
4) The discussion sub-threads above showing how drag queens make some people's sexuality get all tattered at the fringes is sorta lulzy.
When I worked on cruise ships in the past mid-century, there was always a costume night. Back in the day, we carried a lot of military personnel on their way to or from US military bases in the Orient. Unfailingly, some butch sergeant (with wife in tow) or hot officer would be talked into appearing in the show.
Curiously, after the show, several guys wore their drag the rest of the evening, sitting at the bar with nyloned legs crossed, batting their eyes, having their cigarettes lit, daintily sipping Manhattans. So being in drag is not always a gay thing - it's an "I-want-to-be-someone-else-and-fuck-you-if-you-can't-deal thing.
They're called cross dressers.
Some. . . have a tough time letting go of their male / het privileges. Especially the ones from that generation.
When I 1st moved to Seattle, you were one of the 1st queens I saw, and thought you were fantastic. I saw you at Gay Bingo both in and out of drag, and am honored to have been one of the Queens to later carry the torch for that event.
I disagree with your statement that you never earned the right to call yourself a 'real' queen simply because Zora painted your face. You tucked, wore the hose and the heels and I'm sure felt the pain both during and after - but suffered it all for the Art and entertainment.
You may not have made a 'career' of it, but you gave it your all whenever you went out. No drugstore make-up or a wig straight from the bag.
You gave us FACE, girl... !
Kudos to you,
Glamazonia
Miss Gay Seattle XLV
I hope one day I become notable enough to have them hating on me. You go, Dan.