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And I will print that out and save for my whipper snapper when he asks the same question. The poor fucker is going to have a horrible awkward stage just like his old man. Your a real mensch Dan Savage.
2
And learn to dance and be willing to dance. A straight man who dances, is a man who will get a woman every time. LEARN to dance.
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you're. Dammit.
4
I definitely could have benefited from this advice at 15.
5
Ooo, printing this out for my just turned 14 year old boys.

Did you know they can look at porn on their DSi hand held game thingys? Where the fuck was that technology when I was a teenager? Damn.
6
In this age of axe, couldn't you append a little general advice about colognes? To wit, a scent should be sparingly applied, so that people will want to lean in closer to find out what that wonderful smell is. If it's strong enough to knock the birds out of the sky at fifteen feet, you're doing it wrong.
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Great advice.

I'll confess that I loved those awkward boys in high school. They grow up into beautiful, and often still a bit awkward, men. So lovely, so charming, so glad to be in a world full of them.
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@2 Absofuckinglutely!

And cooking and cleaning. Nothing does it for me more than a man who will make me dinner on occasion and clean up after himself. <3
9
Printing out and taping this to the edge of my fountain of youth.
10
You rock, Dan. Although I think maybe "letter writer" is giving you a run for your money: "passing the afternoons on the porch sipping gin from a tea cup while terrorizing the local boys with a super soaker"......possibly the funniest thing I've read lately. And @2 is right, dancing is a huge bonus! I dated a super cute lacrosse player in college, turned out the only dancing he could do was waltzing....

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@8: Agreed. I remember seeing that episode of Weeds where Andy is teaching Shane and a friend that, to get girls, all you have to do is learn to tell one joke and learn to cook one meal. So true.
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@2 - You're so right! I've found women of ALL ages appreciate a man who can dance. Twice a month I volunteer at a dance event held by a retirement home. The old ladies, their middle aged daughters, and their early 20s granddaughters all ask me to dance simply because I'm one of the few guys there who can (and is willing to) dance. When they compliment me on my dancing, the very next thing they say is, "Let me guess. You're gay." Yep...
13
I still talk to people about that iconic response. Some of your best writing ever. Well done, Dan.
14
This is my FAVORITE column! I refer to it when I teach my freshman English classes about introductions, using the following idea: "the best way to make girls think you're interesting is to actually be interesting." I tell them that rather than have a flashy opening, they should just have something interesting to say in the essay. Nerdy, I know, but it gets their attention when I tell them it's from a sex advice column.
15
Wish I'd had Dan Savage around as a terrified, geeky 15yo who liked guys. So many years wasted, but such were the '70's.
16
You left out finding a job you can live with that doesn't take away any study time and will get you some spending money. Girls love a boy with money. It's instinctual. Money is a powerful aphrodisiac (sexual turn on).
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@16 Vince, if you tried dating women who weren't Professional Hot Chicks, perhaps you would find fewer gold-diggers. That hair, those nails, that makeup, those implants, all that takes money!
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Learn to vacuum. There is nothing that turns married women on more than a man who can run a vacuum cleaner!
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@17 I never dated women. Not one. But I'm a fairly good observer of people's behavior. I never met a girl or woman who didn't like a nice dinner and movie. And a little bit of jewelry as well. Please feel free to refute.
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The dancing comment was spot on. A guy who can dance can get a woman without even batting an eyelid. And it's another way to be interesting (sophisticated enough to dance!) and to get the kind of body women "find irresistible."
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@19.

Dinner and a movie is nice enough, but pretty boring. It would not impress, or make me think twice about a guy who was on the bubble.

It's generally a bad idea to buy jewelry or clothes for a woman. I've never had a boyfriend or long-term partner whose taste matched mine and who got it right. I hate being stuck with jewelry or clothes that are fugly, but that I feel obligated to keep and wear because they were gifts. Hate it.

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@19: True, but that's more of a general social thing, rather than a female/dating thing -- to be able to host, to have the luxury of generosity and reciprocity. Having a man treat me to dinner and movie is very nice, but I wouldn't enjoy it as much if I couldn't return the favour.

Oh yeah, and I don't really go for jewellery. My last birthday present was a stack of comic books.
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This is awesome, Dan. I'll be saving this column for my now one-year-old son to read when he's a teenager.
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My Sunday school teaching friend was asked to give dating advice to the Boy Scout group that meets at her church, so I linked that column to her. She then fielded questions such as, "Do I really have to shower every day?" "Really?! Every day?!" and "I have to CUT my fingernails?!!"
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A little bit of jewelry maybe. Emphasis on the little. I think everyone likes to be spoiled, but I'd prefer it come in a form that doesn't leave me worried that you're either trying to impress me with how much you make, or trying to buy me.

Cooking me a good meal will probably go farther in terms of making me feel cared for and allowing you to show off a little, because it's not going to leave me uncomfortably worried if I'm now obligated to you, or if you're going think I should feel obligated, and then sulk if I don't put out. I'd rather have your time and attention than presents.

I once received jewelry on a first date, and even though it wasn't expensive, it was a definite turn off. Much too soon.
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It's lovely when men are willing to hit the dance floor with you and risk looking uncool while wearing a big smile. No ballroom skills necessary. And, so sexy.

I for one would rather cook together than go out. And, I've never been a big jewelry fan either. But, I'd rather spend my time in activities that result in becoming hot, sweaty, and dirty; pretty jewelry gets ruined in those typed of activities.
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I remember that column. Great advice then; great advice now. I do agree with #6 that a little footnote about the Axe would be appropriate, and how it is not a substitute for hygiene. A lot of 20-something and 30-something guys need to hear that, too.

Count me the no-jewelry-or-clothes-please crowd. And I think the actual money involved in taking someone out to dinner is much less important than the social points for the act gifting someone with an evening. (Men also respond to this, but often by feeling intimidated instead of complimented. I LOVE it when a guy is secure enough to let me take him out instead.)

Awesome dates can be had on the cheap... a $500 dinner with an asshole is still dinner with an asshole.
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@19 My boyfriend and I either split every meal, or we take turns and try to make it even. I don't wear jewelry, either. He doesn't have a lot of money and I don't give a fuck. I'm happy with someone that I can have interesting conversation with.

I've hinted at my boyfriend buying me a star chart for my birthday, too :) I'm super excited. Cunnilingus will be included as well, obviously. Best birthday present ever.

Not all of us demand men to spend money on us. I'd feel really bad if my boyfriend paid for everything (or at least most of it) :P
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Be yourself. It might seem like a good idea to act how you think the object of your affection wants you to act But you will inevitably turn back into yourself (because you can only pretend for so long), and if you want a relationship to survive, they have to like the real you. (Obviously, if you're just looking for sex, this doesn't apply).

Not all women want expensive dates and gifts. One day I called my husband in between classes to rant about the truly horrible day I was having at work. To cheer me up, he stopped by the bookstore and bought me a Giant Microbe- they are these stuffed animals designed to look like microbes- because he knows I love them. I'd rather have that stuffed Shigella than any piece of jewelry in the world.
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Sure appropriate jewlery is nice, I knew my husband was going to be my husband because of the piece he picked for our first christmas, well I had an idea beforehand bu once I saw that chunky silver set of sparkly stars (one of those puzzle necklaces) I knew he had been listening to every word I said and what I hadn't.

Being interesting is key, my favourite part of our life is the constant discussions we have on juat about everything. He's smart, no he's briliant! We share a passion for human sexuality and a voracious hunger for knowledge.

The one thing I don't agree on is the perfuming, I'm heavily allergic to scents and prefer people to smell like people. My advice would be to forgo colognes until you know for sure that this potential mate finds them arousing. No one is going to judge you because you don't smell like something that came out of a bottle if you smell fresh and clean. This can also lead to a fun shopping date where you can pick together a "scent" to go along with your relationship.

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