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What are they protesting against?

It looks completely disorganized to me.
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supposed to be people outside the Paramount today where one of Obama's fundraisers are taking place.
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None of these protests has worked in decades. It's much like prayer...how you can pretend you are having an impact without actually having an impact.
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@2 If you got to ask yourself what "they" are protesting about you obviously are from another planet like your avatar seems to indicate. Here some information on who they are..... http://tinyurl.com/3l3alp8
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there seems to be a lot of reasons for the protests, and i agree it seems disorganized, but i also don't like when cops practice restraining and macing people randomly, as clearly seen on this video. i know mace hurts the face, but damn, i think that woman was over reacting with that blood curdling scream.
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Have you ever been maced? It hurts like fucking hell. That is NOT over-reacting.
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These protesters seem pretty skilled in putting the focus on the police's heavy handed tactics.
One cannot ignore the fact that the police are through their actions are violating the rights of citizens to speak out.
We all should take notes since we will have to take to the streets to make the changes we need to bring about more equity in our society.
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@5: any manifesto that starts with a grammatical error isn't worth reading. So, like 2 said, what's the protest about?
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It's creepy how the guy with the pepper spray comes out of nowhere, fires the spray, and walks off. He's like fucking Jack Ruby or some shit, brought in just for the purpose of putting down a patsy (or in this case, a group of citizens doing something that was completely within their rights to do).
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omg, right?! that was totally random.
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That mace incident, in particular, is shocking and especially cruel (although I wish the protestors' gender wasn't so underscored in the reporting; this incident is no less awful than if the protestors had been "young men," though I doubt they would have been identified as such).
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The protestors may be a bit vague in how they're going about their actions, and sad they've not gained more attention up to now, but I don't see how that excuses police misbehavior.

On the bright side, the police misbehavior is drawing the attention the protestors weren't able to on their own.
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@1 - You realize not all of Brooklyn is like Williamsburg don't you?

The district of Brooklyn(and Queens) that just elected a Republican has more in common(religiously, socially and politically) with 19th century villages in Ireland, Russia, and Italy than Park Slope. The two Democratic Jewish representatives before, Schumer and Weiner, won by being the strongest for Israel while Catholic Republicans focused on abortion. This time the Republican brought Israel and abortion together with a low turnout. The district is going to be eliminated next election anyway. Absorbed by neighboring districts that are predominantly Black or Asian.
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An oldie (if three years is old) but a goodie.
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At what point are people going to get sick of this shit? At what point are people going to see police brutality in defense of corrupt economic and political systems and take a stand against these pigs. I'm starting to get tired of non-violence. Non-violent protest is toothless when there aren't people nearby ready to dig up some pavement and start casting stones at these assholes.
The government, courts, police departments, and police unions won't hold bad cops accountable. It's time for us to do this.
On top of that, the cops are becoming pawns to defend this corrupt system which has reigned misery on people around the world. The system the police work for can't be held accountable either. If you don't believe that, look at the Obama presidency, where the best we really can say is that we didn't have McCain in there with Sarah Barracuda a heartbeat away. How is that hopey-changey thing working out for us again? Not very fucking good! It's time to kick some ass, because they have shown that THEY are the ones uninterested in civil discourse, so fuck 'em.
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protest is no longer tolerated in america by legal authorities.
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@17 Well, unless grammar is improved and organization is not just present but seen to be present, I'm just not going to get involved. I'm going to the mall to see how many of the shops are still operating...
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@9 Someone who can't manage to do a simple google search, yet demands third-hand information from a comments section has no right to demand grammatical accuracy.

Of course, someone who is too lazy to do the work themselves, sitting in front of the monitor demanding spoon-fed information like a baby bird demanding worms probably couldn't understand the situation anyway. Go back to farmville.
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Ahhh, a tale as old as protesting itself. Hey, you guys really want to protest something that actually matters, how about going down the street and protesting the NY Fed. The police wouldn't let that go for five minutes.
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@16 Heh heh, yeah, that's good stuff.
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@ 9. Please don't disregard the message because you don't like the form it takes. These people may not have a single clear objective that they can give as a bullet point but that's only because the level of greed and corruption seen on Wall Street cant be summarized into a one sentence slogan.
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@20 Everyone has the right to demand grammatical accuracy. It's not just for the faux involved any more. If people want to get their point across, I find correct spelling and word usage to be helpful. Not really worth reading a rant when even the first word is wrong.

But whatever. Cops are being assholes to people who don't deserve it and protesters are being useless. Sounds like things are 5 by 5. Enjoy your self-righteousness. I'm sure it gives you that warm, snuggly feeling you need at night.
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Thanks, Dominic.

There's a nice Twitter list curated by Kevin Gosztola, who has been live-blogging for Firedoglake: @kgosztola/take-wall-street that's good to follow for on-the-scenes reporting. I believe it's only available if you're logged into Twitter.

See also this 11+ minute video of police action from inside the crowd at the protest yesterday. In particular, see beginning at 3:17 when a cop grabs a woman, pulls her over the police barricade, then drags her into the street head-first.

Kevin Gosztola's reporting:


  • 2011-09-16 5:40 PM - Citizens Aim to Occupy Wall Street
    For the live blog go here. The antiglobalization movement was the first step on the road. Back then our model was to attack the system like a pack of wolves. There was an alpha male, a wolf who led the pack, and those who followed behind. Now the model has evolved. Today we [...]

  • 2011-09-17 11:53 AM - Live Blogging #TakeWallStreet – Police Decide to Occupy Wall St Instead
    As reported in a previous post, today is the day for Occupy Wall Street, an action that a number of organizers have been planning for lower Manhattan for the past months. Inspired by occupations in Greece, Spain, Tunisia, Egypt and other countries where occupations have taken place, organizers began to put together websites and fliers to [...]

  • 2011-09-17 8:34 PM - Live Blog for #TakeBackWallStreet: After Hours Edition
    For those of you who haven’t been following the #TakeBackWallStreet or #OccupyWallStreet action, today was the first day of Occupy Wall Street. Background on the inspiration for the action can be found here. A live blog has been running on FDL’s The Dissenter since the action began around noon today. It is night time. A [...]

  • 2011-09-18 9:20 AM - Occupy Wall Street’s Modest Call to Action
    This post is republished with permission from agnosticnixie. It is the call the core group, which promoted the action that began on September 17, would like citizens to support. This statement is ours, and for anyone who will get behind it. Representing ourselves, we bring this call for revolution. We want [...]

  • 2011-09-18 10:28 AM - Live Blog for #OccupyWallStreet: Day Two
    Yesterday was the first day of Occupy Wall Street, an action inspired by occupations that have taken place in Egypt, Greece, Spain and other countries over the past months. FDL’s The Dissenter has been covering the action live since it began and will continue to cover especially as significant developments happen. The summary for Day [...]

  • 2011-09-18 7:51 PM - Live Blog for #OccupyWallStreet: Day Two, After Hours Edition
    Hundreds of protesters have been occupying Zuccotti Park, a private park, nearby Wall Street as part of a planned Occupy Wall Street action. The police have put up blockades around Wall Street and prevented protesters from being on the sidewalk areas of Wall Street they hoped to occupy. The protesters have committed to a long-term [...]

  • 2011-09-19 9:34 AM - Pizza Orders from Around the World: A Sign #OccupyWallStreet Could Last Awhile?
    *FDL’s live blog of Occupy Wall Street here. For two days now, hundreds of protesters have occupied Zuccotti Park, a private park in and around Wall Street, as part of Occupy Wall Street. (See last night’s live blog here.) The protesters intended to legally assemble and demonstrate on the public sidewalks [...]

  • 2011-09-19 10:02 AM - Live Blog for Day 3 of #OccupyWallStreet: Direct Action to Happen Now
    In a private park known as Zuccotti Park, hundreds of protesters have been holding an occupation called Occupy Wall Street to call attention to corporate influence on US politics. The action began on September 17. Protesters were not allowed to go into the area on Wall Street they had planned to occupy because the NYPD [...]

  • 2011-09-19 4:52 PM - Live Blog for #OccupyWallStreet: Day Three, Evening Edition
    Liberato’s Pizza has now officially renamed a pizza after the Occupy Wall Street action happening in a park in lower Manhattan in New York. The pizza is called The Occu-pie and it is 99% cheese, 1% pig. For anyone going, what is Occupy Wall Street? It is an occupation being maintained by hundreds of US [...]

  • 2011-09-20 8:14 AM - Live Blog for #OccupyWallStreet: Day Four, NYPD Attack Camp for Putting Up a Tarp
    Occupy Wall Street put up a tarp overnight. Using trees in the park, the occupation erected a structure, which inevitably meant the New York Police Department was going to tell them immediately this morning they had five minutes to take all tarps down. The protesters opted to hold an emergency assembly to discuss whether to [...]

  • 2011-09-20 4:28 PM - Live Blog for #OccupyWallStreet: Day Four, Evening Edition
    Good evening. FDL continues to cover the latest developments related to Occupy Wall Street. Those who are unaware of what happened over the past twelve to twenty four hours, here is a quick summary: Early in the morning, some time around 7:30 am, the NYPD came over and on a megaphone said that the occupation [...]

  • 2011-09-21 6:46 AM - Live Blog of #OccupyWallStreet: Day Five, 99 Percenters Rise Up
    Support for Occupy Wall Street is growing by the hour. Solidarity actions in Chicago, Phoenix and Paris, France, are all getting off the ground. In Los Angeles, Cleveland, and Atlanta, actions are in the works. Each of these may be occupations. And, now there is indication the Industrial Workers of the World [...]

  • 2011-09-21 2:59 PM - Troy Davis’ Scheduled Execution: Democracy Now! Broadcasts from Georgia Prison
    Watch live streaming video from democracynow at livestream.com The Georgia Pardons & Paroles Board is set to execute Troy Davis at 7 pm ET on International Day of Peace. Troy Davis’ attorneys filed a motion for an emergency stay of execution. Lawyers wrote, according to Huffington Post, “No physical evidence has ever conclusively linked Mr. [...]

  • 2011-09-22 9:35 AM - Live Blog for #OccupyWallStreet: Day Six, Solidarity with Troy Davis
    Between now and yesterday, there have been few significant developments related to the Occupy Wall Street action. There are still hundreds of people camping out in Zuccotti Park in lower Manhattan nearby Wall Street (the park which they have renamed Liberty Park). However, the Occupy Wall Street action did collectively feel a sense of pain [...]

  • 2011-09-23 7:48 AM - Live Blog of #OccupyWallStreet: Day Seven, Other US Cities Launch Occupations
    A march for Troy Davis converges with Occupy Wall Street. The grotesque murder of Troy Davis by the state of Georgia and corruption on Wall Street may have been separate issues, but last night the separation ended, at least temporarily. Occupy Wall Street, which had been showing solidarity with Davis, converged with [...]

  • 2011-09-24 8:08 AM - Live Blog of #OccupyWallStreet: One Week Later & Growing Stronger by the Day
    The one week milestone has been reached. Occupy Wall Street has struggled and toiled through the week and made through to the weekend. The occupation survived: pouring rain, police harassment and intimidation, a media blackout, media coverage aimed to diminish the significance of the occupation, lack of supplies necessary for holding [...]

  • 2011-09-24 3:08 PM - Live Blog of #OccupyWallStreet: NYPD’s Crackdown on the Protest
    Fifty to eighty people have been arrested in New York City as part of the Occupy Wall Street protest. The NYPD is cracking down on those involved in the action and the NYPD is surrounding Liberty Park (Zuccotti Park) where people have been occupying for the past week. Suspicions are high with many believing those [...]

  • 2011-09-25 9:12 AM - Live Blog of #OccupyWallStreet: Day Nine, Pressing On After Mass Arrests Yesterday
    The first instance of police making mass arrests of Occupy Wall Street protesters happened yesterday. Police had not detained a large group of protesters before, preferring to arbitrarily pick off individuals they thought warranted arrest. The harassment, intimidation and violence on display on the streets of New York City yesterday moved [...]

  • 2011-09-25 3:14 PM - NYPD’s Iron-Handed Response to Occupy Wall Street
    The New York police department’s (NYPD) massively cracked down people who were out in the streets of New York yesterday for Occupy Wall Street. Thousands came out to participate in a demonstration that has been going on for over a week and the police, unprepared for the number of people protesting, [...]
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@9: I have the same mindset, but that was the only glaring typo that I found in reading it. Some sentence structure issues, a lack of hyphens where they seemed necessary, but otherwise pretty well written.
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seriously, how is penning people in and macing them standard police procedure?? what does that accomplish? Shouldn't the police ostensibly want them to leave? which they can't do when penned?
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@2, Urgutha Forka asked, "What are they protesting against?"

I believe that in short, they're protesting the actions of the bankers who ripped us all off and of the legislators and executives who gave those bankers a pass.

On Friday, September 16, 2011, at 5:40 p.m., Kevin Gosztola wrote:


The antiglobalization movement was the first step on the road. Back then our model was to attack the system like a pack of wolves. There was an alpha male, a wolf who led the pack, and those who followed behind. Now the model has evolved. Today we are one big swarm of people.
— Raimundo Viejo, Pompeu Fabra University, Barcelona, Spain

Drawing inspiration from Greece, Spain, Tunisia, Egypt and other countries where occupations have taken place in the past months, organizers are preparing to occupy Wall Street in New York on September 17. They have spent weeks planning logistics and building support for the action and hope to see 20,000 swarm lower Manhattan and set up tents, kitchens, peaceful barricades and occupy the area.


The Occupy Wall Street action is not being organized by one organization. A central website was set up by independent organizers to provide support for those seeking to engage in resistance or protest. The action is the result of a call by Adbusters, a Vancouver-based anti-consumerist magazine known for “culture jamming.” The magazine put out a call on July 13, to come together like people did in Tahrir Square in Egypt and make one demand that President Barack Obama “ordain a Presidential Commission tasked with ending the influence money has over our representatives in Washington.”


The call to action further explained the need for such an occupation action:


This demand seems to capture the current national mood because cleaning up corruption in Washington is something all Americans, right and left, yearn for and can stand behind. If we hang in there, 20,000-strong, week after week against every police and National Guard effort to expel us from Wall Street, it would be impossible for Obama to ignore us. Our government would be forced to choose publicly between the will of the people and the lucre of the corporations.


This could be the beginning of a whole new social dynamic in America, a step beyond the Tea Party movement, where, instead of being caught helpless by the current power structure, we the people start getting what we want whether it be the dismantling of half the 1,000 military bases America has around the world to the reinstatement of the Glass-Steagall Act or a three strikes and you’re out law for corporate criminals. Beginning from one simple demand – a presidential commission to separate money from politics – we start setting the agenda for a new America.



The hacktivist group known as Anonymous has come out strongly in support of the Occupy Wall Street action. Noting that September 17 is Constitution Day, an Anonymous flyer declares:


We will no longer choose to stand still while one of our country’s greatest achievements, the Constitution, is skewed and vandalized by the actions of corporate giants. We will no longer stay quiet while our society is destroyed by the downward spiral of mass consumer capitalism. We will stand up for our rights and the rights of everyone who call the United States their home.


The organizers are keenly aware of the fact that the police—not just any police force but the NYPD—will likely do everything they can to halt the occupation in its first few hours. Since the success of the action depends on being able to keep people engaged and interested in holding space in lower Manhattan, they will do everything they can to split up crowds and disperse them.


[A guide for people planning to participate in the action.]


Those involved hope to use the Spanish occupation in Madrid as their guide. Here’s a quote from Jérôme E. Roos, a journalist who wrote about the encampment last month:


All day long, 300 police officers kept the square hermetically sealed off, even closing the Sol metro station – one of the largest and most important in the city … When the protesters realized they couldn’t take the square, they quickly dissolved into a dozen side-streets and regrouped on a number of key locations … For hours now, protesters have been blocking all the main traffic arteries in the city center … Tens of thousands of indignados have brought Madrid to a complete standstill in a spontaneous and defiant bid to reclaim Puerta del Sol … The mass protest is now reported to be headed back towards Sol for a second time, in another attempt to take back the square.


Thus, Adbusters advises:


If the police block us temporarily from occupying Wall Street, then let’s turn all of lower Manhattan into our Tahrir Square. Let’s sing our songs in the lobby of Goldman Sachs and in Chase Manhattan Plaza; let’s wave our signs outside the SEC and the Federal Reserve; let’s convene our people’s assemblies around the Charging Bull statue at Bowling Green … and if need be, let’s set up our encampments in nearby Battery Park and other places until we’re ready to walk into Wall Street again …


The people behind this are quite literally intending to launch a siege on Wall Street. When they get into the area that Wall Street occupies, they hope to take position and use everything and anything available to show the nation and the world how people crave justice for the banksters or casino capitalists that have enjoyed impunity, despite perpetrating an inside job on the US (and global) economy in 2008.


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@29: Thanks much!
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And this is helpful for a better econony, how?
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Anybody else think grammar Nazi's are pathetic losers without a life? I do. They are annoying, whiny, crybabies. Just go away. Nobody gives a shit what you think about somebody's grammar. Honestly!
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Oh man. That took place one block from my house.
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Ok, yeah fight the good fight and everything, but along with protesting, I hope you're all voting in local elections and making yourselves heard to your local politicians what you want. Also, I'm assuming you're also not doing business with any of the banks or corporations you're protesting.
The demand you guys want:
make one demand that President Barack Obama “ordain a Presidential Commission tasked with ending the influence money has over our representatives in Washington.”

Um, that's just never going to happen. Washington is completely owned by lobbyists and corporations. You'd have more luck demanding the government ordain a commission to end government.
But hey, protesting the banks, wall street, and general corruption is totally fine by me. More power to you. I hope you get what you want, but I'm sure not going to hold my breath.
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@32: You put the apostrophe in Nazis just to troll, didn't you?
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@31, well what have YOU done to improve the economy? As useless as protests always turn out to be at least it's something.

That being said at least we haven't had to see any comments defending the police and the thin blue line they have to walk and so forth. Especially when this is nothing more than a demonstration of police acting like the uniformed thugs that most are.
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@32: And yet you take the time to talk about it. Funny. Besides, it's not a somebody's grammar. It's communication. Either you can communicate without sounding like a fucktard, or you can't. Not that I'd expect someone who violates Godwin's Law with sentence #1 to get that. But mayb u r rite & we shud all just giv up comunic8ing lik peple.

Besides which, your bunched panties make me LOL. So hey, worth it.
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@36: it'd certainly be nice if the video, at least, got a reaction. A sort of 'Holy shit, maybe we've gone too far with security.' It won't, of course. It'll get swept under the rug - Hell, it doesn't even need to get swept, it'll just be ignored But it would be nice.
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I see the "police brutality" being more about individual irritation at whiny protesters than an organized attempt to bully these protests into submission.
This is police brutality. I hate the political and economic situation that we've developed in this country and it needs change, but pretending that the police are the problem is foolish and misdirected anger.
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Here's a nice video of people protesting peacefully on the sidewalks of Manhattan. The signs they hold say it all. http://vimeo.com/29327621
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@40: You're contrasting the situation in Syria to that of the United States as justification for giving American peace officers a pass on their violent reaction to peaceful demonstrators. That's setting the bar pretty low, isn't it?
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Is this the same movement?
http://www.usdayofrage.org/about.html

For these reasons, we come together now to organize state and national non-violent protests and assemblies of people to demand an Article V Constitutional Convention to restore integrity to our elections and government.

The Framers created a method for escaping from captured government—an Article V Constitutional Convention. If 34 states pass resolutions calling for convention all sides have the opportunity to argue for changes they believe will restore democracy. Any amendment proposed must then be ratified by 38 states to become law.

We demand that Citizens United versus FEC which deems corporations to be people when it come to political contributions be overturned.

We demand that corporate personhood be abolished.

We demand state and federal election and campaign finance laws be reformed.
One citizen. One dollar. One vote.

Only citizens should make campaign contributions.
Campaign contributions by citizens should not exceed $1 to any political candidate or party.
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http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/0…]

Organizers, promoters and supporters called the day, which had been widely discussed on Twitter and other social media sites, simply September 17. Some referred to it as the United States Day of Rage, an apparent reference to a series of disruptive protests against the Vietnam War held in Chicago in 1969.

The idea, according to some organizers, was to camp out for weeks or even months to replicate the kind, if not the scale, of protests that erupted earlier this year in places as varied as Egypt, Spain and Israel.

Bill Steyert, 68, who lives in Forest Hills, Queens, stood near the barricades at Wall Street and Broadway and shouted, “Shut down Wall Street, 12 noon, you’re all invited,” as tourists gazed quizzically at him.
Talking to a reporter, he elaborated, “You need a scorecard to keep track of all the things that corporations have done that are bad for this country.”

Nearby, Micah Chamberlain, 23, a line cook from Columbus, Ohio, held up a sign reading “End the Oligarchy” and said he had hitchhiked to New York. “There are millions of people in this county without jobs,” he said. “And 1 percent of the people have 99 percent of the money.”

Throughout the afternoon hundreds of demonstrators gathered in parks and plazas in Lower Manhattan. They held teach-ins, engaged in discussion and debate and waved signs with messages like “Democracy Not Corporatization” or “Revoke Corporate Personhood.”
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On the recent flurry of media coverage after the police turned violent, Nathan Schneider of Waging Nonviolence writes:

In an article that recounts as many gory details as will fit, the Daily News devotes only two short paragraphs to what the protest is actually about and what protesters have been doing all this time: “attempting to draw attention to what they believe is a dysfunctional economic system that unfairly benefits corporations and the mega-rich.” True, but too little. The real story for the Daily News, it seems, is not this unusual kind of protest, or the political situation which it opposes, but the chance to have the word “busted” on the cover next to the cleavage of a woman crying out in pain.


ABC’s Channel 7 Eyewitness News, despite being one of the day’s most zealously-persistent outlets, ran a doubly fallacious headline Sunday morning: “Occupy Wall Street Protest Gets Violent Overnight.” For one thing, the protest itself did not get violent. Protesters attacked nobody. They threw no stones, they carried no weapons. The police got violent. Secondly, the arrests and violence did not happen “overnight” but during the day—an error the article repeats several times. This seems especially odd since the Channel 7 reporter and cameraman were witnesses to what did happen during the night, which their article confusingly splices in with an account of the day’s arrests: a mainly silent, completely peaceful vigil march on the sidewalk to Police Plaza to ask after the protesters arrested that afternoon—with locked arms and peace signs held high—accompanied the whole time by officers carrying orange nets, followed menacingly by empty police vans, and barricaded several times from reaching their destination.


While protesters were stopped at a barricade at Canal and Elizabeth Streets, Channel 7 reporter Darla Miles showed the picture of a protester with his face covered in blood on her Blackberry to help persuade the police to give an update on him. (She was careful to keep it away from the cameras of those who might be able to help publicize it: “Channel 7 News property!”) But they were gone by the time the protesters finally made it near Police Plaza, calling out in unison, “Our Brothers! And Sisters! You Are Not Forgotten!” as well as the phone number of the National Lawyers Guild, eliciting some chuckles from the police.


Soberer outlets missed the point as well. What the Associated Press and Reuters saw was something along the lines of a typical one-day march-in-the-streets protest, only mysteriously happening over more than a single day. They barely mention the sustained occupation of Liberty Plaza, much less what has been happening there and why. The New York Times’s Ginia Bellafante at least took the time to visit the plaza, though she doesn’t seem to have stayed long enough to notice its main activity, the General Assembly. There, she would have found that the protesters’ purpose is anything but “impossible to decipher”; they’re busy taking part in a purposely-leaderless, consensus-based process based on people, not money, right in the capital of American corruption.


None of these articles captures what is distinctive about this occupation, or how it works, or what the protesters are doing for most of the day, or the courage they have shown in the face of the brutality. These are common oversights in press coverage of nonviolent resistance movements, but that doesn’t mean there’s any excuse.


The thing is, there are tremendous things happening in and around Liberty Plaza, stories in which these mainly-young protesters are anything but passive recipients of police abuse. I’ve already written about the arrests of protesters like Jason Ahmadi and Justin Wedes, who were also portrayed as victims in the media, but who in fact were arrested on their own terms, for simple, peaceful acts of resistance. One could also speak of the stories of how those arrested on Saturday kept each other’s spirits high by singing and chanting together and trying to woo the police while they were being taken away in plastic cuffs. Watch, for instance, between 1:25 to 3:15 on this clip from the occupation’s 24-hour livestream:


[...]


I also think of things that happened before major news outlets were paying much attention, at times when the watchful crowds were away. At about 9:15 p.m. on Sunday the 18th, for instance, came one of the first police incursions into the plaza, during a General Assembly meeting. I have yet to see it recounted anywhere. The officers ordered, through protesters reporting to the Assembly, that all signs be taken down. There was a fractious reaction at first. Some thought it a reasonable request and wanted to comply. Others refused on principle, not wanting to be taking orders from the police. People made speeches on either side. There were defiant chants of “Occupy Wall Street!” Some took it upon themselves to remove signs, and others tried to stop them, such as by shouting. There were whispers that undercover cops were sowing divisions—though it hardly seemed like the protesters needed any help with that. Just when unity was needed, it wasn’t there. Officers started taking down posters themselves while protesters chanted, “Shame!”


[...]


Events like these are messy, and they’re far from entirely flattering, but they’re human. Properly told, they have the makings of a good story. Reporting accurately and critically on police violence is of course essential—Colin Moynihan of The New York Times has done so extremely well on the paper’s City Room blog—but that is only a small part of the story of what’s going on here. We in the press need to think more highly of our readers, as well as of our own ability to report on stories that don’t depend simply on the shock value of violence, or on cheap-shot ridicule, or on stifling formulas. For many Americans, nonviolent direct actions like this occupation are the best hope for having a political voice, and they deserve to be taken seriously as such.

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What Urgatha Forks said.

Also Spindles, the Fed is a tool; You'd get the same results protesting a hammer.
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Food for thought

White shirt = Lieutenant, Captain, Chief.

This man looks to be a Captain based on his flair.

If they try to blame this on agitated ranks, it is clearly coming from the leadership.
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@35 - I will never say.

It is funny about the police getting so up in arms about people protesting Wall Street. It is Wall Street that is helping destroy police retirement funds. It is Wall Street speculation that is jacking up gas prices, making it very expensive for working class people to drive. It is Wall Street (and the banks) that caused the melt down of the economy, causing police and fire fighter layoffs, frozen wages and increased employee contributions for benefits. They just do not get it.
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NYT ridiculed these spoiled whitebait students perfectly:

“I want to get rid of the combustion engine,” John McKibben, an activist from Vermont, declared as his primary ambition.

“I want to create spectacles,” Becky Wartell, a recent graduate of the College of the Atlantic in Maine, said.

Having discerned the intellectual vacuum, Chris Spiech, an unemployed 26-year-old from New Jersey, arrived on Thursday with the hope of indoctrinating his peers in the lessons of Austrian economics, Milton Friedman and Ron Paul. “I want to abolish the Federal Reserve,” he said.

The group’s lack of cohesion and its apparent wish to pantomime progressivism rather than practice it knowledgably is unsettling in the face of the challenges so many of its generation face — finding work, repaying student loans, figuring out ways to finish college when money has run out. But what were the chances that its members were going to receive the attention they so richly deserve carrying signs like “Even if the World Were to End Tomorrow I’d Still Plant a Tree Today”?
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@32 I agree with you (and I teach writing)! A lot of fantastic, creative and passionate people are poor writers/spellers. I prefer to focus on the positive.
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@42 Not a pass, but perspective. Is using violence against peaceful protesters justifiable? No. But I think that the kind of police "oppression" we're seeing is not comparable to the rest of the world. I want people to recognize this isn't about the police, it's about the economic and political situation.
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New York cops seem to go through cycles of violent indifference to the citizenry, punctuated by the periods of stoic but compassionate professionalism that makes them bearable. I suspect the emphasis of late on terrorism as their main focus has desensitized them and led to this latest wave. I'm sad.

I do hope there is some disciplinary action after this nonsense. It's too much to hope that there will be criminal prosecution, unless the Feds step up to the bat.
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The New York Times wrote an interesting story on this protest. And yes, it is apparently pretty disorganized and random.

Here's the article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/25/nyregi…

The last lines are pretty funny:
One day, a trader on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, Adam Sarzen, a decade or so older than many of the protesters, came to Zuccotti Park seemingly just to shake his head. “Look at these kids, sitting here with their Apple computers,” he said. “Apple, one of the biggest monopolies in the world. It trades at $400 a share. Do they even know that?”
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Yeah, calling Apple a monopoly is funny.
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bwahaha! i read that NY times piece. the ending is funny, interesting shit.
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The president told a $35,800-a-couple Medina fundraiser that the 2012 election will be “especially hard because a lot of people are discouraged” but vowed he will “keep drawing a clear contrast” between his vision of America and that of the Republicans.

The fundraiser was held in the 27,000-square toot, art-draped home of former Microsoft chief operating officer Jon Shirley. Obama deemed the art collection unforgettable.


Looks like someone sold you guys a line of santorum...

http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitic…
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@54 Who wrote it the New York Times article? Judith Miller? Just as the NYT was happy to carry corporate water then, I'm sure they are happy to carry it now.
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For their credit the cops on the left at least look totally incredulous at what just happened. I don't think they were made aware of what would happen once they had corralled them.
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Just the beginning of the 99% are waking up and rising up against the 1%, yes at first look it seems unorganised , since it is leaderless, but this is because it goes beyond old politics it is a global surge :

http://occupytogether.org/

Tomorrow a movement can build from a few : 4 PM rain or shine : Occupy Seattle Meet Up #1 http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=10…
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The revolution starts at 4pm on Monday? Expect a lot of white kids with college degrees and Apple computers. You know, the workin' stiffs.
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"DO NOT BE DISCOURAGED OR DRAWN AWAY FROM ATTENDING THIS EVENT BECAUSE OF THE LOW ATTENDING NUMBERS. "

Kind of like a Blue Oyster Cult show at a casino.
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The 99% of us? Cool, i never realized making over $150k a year with a nice fat retirement plan, 60% equity in our home and two juicy inheritances on their way would make my family so 'common'.
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#64

Does the force pay you that well?

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@65 no, we pay the force to protect us from bored white kids with useless art degrees.
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This thread pointedly illustrates the truth of Howard Zinn's statement that
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience. Our problem is that people all over the world have obeyed the dictates of leaders…and millions have been killed because of this obedience…Our problem is that people are obedient allover the world in the face of poverty and starvation and stupidity, and war, and cruelty. Our problem is that people are obedient while the jails are full of petty thieves… (and) the grand thieves are running the country. That’s our problem.”
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An interesting blog report that includes a statement by one of the young women.

What I find gratifying about the report is how the protesters identify themselves as taxpayers and thank the police (that aren't using pepper spray in an unprovoked attack) for their service. If we aren't getting a cohesive message, it may be in part due to the MSM ignoring the protest. I'm not there, but I like what I'm reading on the dailyKOS site.

Peace.
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For a laugh check out the bubble headed CNN story:

http://cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/20…

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lol fuck you hippie.
*mace*
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thanks Dominic and @26.
To demand legal action, look at the following link. It has more details, and information on how to contact those who have the authority to hold "Officer" Bologna accountable.
http://www.commondreams.org/further/2011…
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@2- Thanks for repeating that Fox talking point.
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Identified as Deputy Inspector Bologna.
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As Dr King once put it, “The purpose of … direct action is to create a situation so crisis-packed that it will inevitably open the door to negotiation.” Now the authorities are creating that crisis-packed situation for us. As happened in Egypt, Spain and India before, this police repression is only further feeding the popular backlash. In a way, we should thank the authorities for their stupidity.

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