Liveblogging the Washington State House Debate and Vote on IN FAVOR OF GAY MARRIAGE

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The bell adds a dramatic touch, no?

Somethingunique on February 8, 2012 at 1:14 PM

This has a quite different feel than the Senate debate. Interested.

Wait...did he just say "...molested..."?

bugwitch on February 8, 2012 at 1:20 PM

that bell reminds me of a prize fight: shake hands and come out voting!

scary tyler moore on February 8, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Eli, do you know why the supporters aren't waiting until later in the session, so that the opponents have less time to collect signatures?

Does anyone know?

(I would think they would wait as long as possible)

passionate_jus on February 8, 2012 at 1:24 PM

That Rodne is quite the fucker.

shaneleopard on February 8, 2012 at 1:24 PM

I'm alternating between wanting to punch some of the representatives and hug others. Rodne is a huge douche.

phedre on February 8, 2012 at 1:25 PM

@3 Too bad Gregoire isn't going to come out wearing a bikini holding a "Round 3" sign.

Or maybe it's not too bad...thoughts?

bugwitch on February 8, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Is he correcting typos? I'm really confused as to what the fuck his point is...

StellaLuna on February 8, 2012 at 1:27 PM

nevermind, got it, he's a total asshole.

StellaLuna on February 8, 2012 at 1:27 PM

"You can't get married because TYPOS."

ChrisJP on February 8, 2012 at 1:28 PM

I love how Rodne keeps saying "there should be no objection" to each of his various amendments - he's coming across as a patronizing nut job. Way to go, dude.

Somethingunique on February 8, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Yes Rodne why do you care so damn much? I don't care about your F'ing religion, leave me and my wife alone.

talllattemomma on February 8, 2012 at 1:28 PM

@4 I think they know that they'll have enough money to get the signatures no matter what so why bother.

giffy on February 8, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Maybe it's just me, but I can't help thinking a lawmaker SHOULD be ashamed to say he's legislating based on his faith.

Ben on February 8, 2012 at 1:40 PM

@4 and 13

Why bother? Because if the Prop 8 ruling in California stands it has implications for a voter referendum to overturn marriage equality in Washington.

Clayton on February 8, 2012 at 1:40 PM

Christ, why won't Rodne shut up? "This issue isn't about civil rights." Fuck you asshole. It goddamn is about civil rights.

phedre on February 8, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Listening to this bigot is ruining my fucking day.

hereiswheremynamegoes on February 8, 2012 at 1:42 PM

There is no right in the Constitution YET, but that doesn't mean it isn't a civil right. Rodne, shut up.

jmurray on February 8, 2012 at 1:42 PM

It makes me happy that this Rodne guy is about to lose.

ERIN! on February 8, 2012 at 1:42 PM

So...I was adopted and reared by people who were not my biological parents. My biological mother had four other children, each of which had children before they reached 20 years old and none actually finished high school.

I must be fraked up then. I guess I shouldn't be in grad school....

bugwitch on February 8, 2012 at 1:43 PM

No, we're not going to undermine the institution of marriage because of an inconvenience. We're not going to undermine the institution of marriage at all.

Ben on February 8, 2012 at 1:43 PM

Wait! Have we considered that people will stop fucking if we legalize gay marriage? Well stop fucking the make babies sense anyways.Thanks Jay Rodne, I'm opposed now. We'll go extinct!!!!

giffy on February 8, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Rodne's speech is pretty much proving why this law needs to be passed.

talllattemomma on February 8, 2012 at 1:44 PM

OMG "VALIDATION"? That fucker. I don't give a shit what you think about gay marriage. I don't need you to validate shit, you fuck. RODNE IS A COLOSSAL FUCKTARD

shaneleopard on February 8, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Fucking hell, are we running out of people, Rodne? Is that why promoting babies is so goddamn important?

Ben on February 8, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Marriage....it's about the transfer of property. Selling your prepubescent daughter to another guy so you can create a stable society.

Traditional values...babies...wakka wakka wakka

bugwitch on February 8, 2012 at 1:44 PM

This guy makes me want to punch a wall and I have a feeling it's about to get worse as he goes into "sensitive" subject matter.

OOH THE LIBERAL AGENDA IS RUINING THE WORLD!

StellaLuna on February 8, 2012 at 1:45 PM

I wish the camera would pan around and show the other members in the room. I want to see their reactions.

bugwitch on February 8, 2012 at 1:46 PM

What the fuck does he think adoption is?

jmurray on February 8, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Wait...what? Severed by force of law? I don't get it. Is he just talking out his ass now? Never mind...he's been talking out his ass since he started.

bugwitch on February 8, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Rep. Rodne needs to be added to the list right below Comic Sans. Just saying . . .

rileysweeney on February 8, 2012 at 1:47 PM

GOOD. LEAVE.

Ben on February 8, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Is Jay Rodne for real? Is this the level of feeble attempt?

Joe Szilagyi on February 8, 2012 at 1:47 PM

WTF is he talking about? Severing a child's relationship with a biological parent? Isn't this idiot's time up yet?

hereiswheremynamegoes on February 8, 2012 at 1:47 PM

I can't help but hope that Rodne will watch his own speeches 20 years from now (maybe less!) and be humiliated that he took such an un-Christian stand.

Somethingunique on February 8, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Feel free, asshat, not to be there anymore.

Sean on February 8, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Two words dip shit: Foster Parents

bugwitch on February 8, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Yes RESIGN!!! I'm giving him 2 more minutes until he starts bawling.

StellaLuna on February 8, 2012 at 1:48 PM

I am dying to punch this asshole right in the mouth. What a dick.

phedre on February 8, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Are you *sure* it's not okay for us to talk about how much we want to punch bigoted assholes in the face? Because, really, if I ever came across this Rodne dude in a dark alley....

jp on February 8, 2012 at 1:49 PM

What is with this "severing a child from their biological parents" crap? Is he against adoption?

rileysweeney on February 8, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Mr. Rodne, I must ask you in the words of Joseph Welch, "Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"

milleribsen on February 8, 2012 at 1:49 PM

@15 That has nothing to do with it. The vote will be in November regardless of when the leg passes it in this session and there is no reason to wait a whole year just to see if the court upholds the ruling in that case.

Plus since we have never had gay marriage in the first place the ruling won't apply to us. The court was very careful to say that.

giffy on February 8, 2012 at 1:50 PM

"marriage will serve to sever the relationship of that child with one of that child's biological parents."

WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN??

The CHZA on February 8, 2012 at 1:51 PM

@15

I wish it did but the ruling does not. It was a very narrow ruling based on the fact that Prop 8 took away marriage rights already granted in the state.

In WA, a referendum would take away a right not given yet, since the law only takes effect after opponents have time to turn in signatures. If they turn in enough signatures, then the law is not implemented until after the November vote.

So marriage will not be granted in WA before the referendum as it was in CA.

passionate_jus on February 8, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Who/where are the Litzow/Pflugs of the House? Time for them to speak up and not let Rodne be their lone, embarrassingly bigoted voice.

Somethingunique on February 8, 2012 at 1:51 PM

My chequebook just flew open and my pen is poised to write a donation cheque to whoever runs against this Rodne douchecanoe.

medievalistbrian on February 8, 2012 at 1:51 PM

I am so glad his time is up!

easternstar on February 8, 2012 at 1:52 PM

Rep. Hunt's stories are adorable.

ERIN! on February 8, 2012 at 1:52 PM

Does he know that gay people can BE biological parents?

fruitbat on February 8, 2012 at 1:52 PM

No, it's a pretty straightforward goddamn issue for one side.

Ben on February 8, 2012 at 1:53 PM

fruitbat don't confuse the bigot, he is incapable of complex thought.

StellaLuna on February 8, 2012 at 1:54 PM

**Face Palm**

"Natural Law perspective"....Please, no. Come on bigots...you gotta fine more ways to hide your hate & fear.

bugwitch on February 8, 2012 at 1:55 PM

"For the kids that hung out in my basement I make this vote, for my two kids I make this vote, for my wife of 41 years I make this vote, for my 91 year old grandmother I make this vote today"

So freaking cute. cute. cute. cute. I am so glad that I can live stream some of this since I am not in class. :)

Original Monique on February 8, 2012 at 1:56 PM

Apparently discrimination now = "freedom of expression"

God forbid you have to treat gays like people too. Nothing makes me hate people like this shit does.

The CHZA on February 8, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Boo hoo, poor bigots not allowed to discriminate according to their bigoted opinions.

Ben on February 8, 2012 at 1:57 PM

WTF!!! They didn't "have" to! They chose not to offer adoptions any more because they wanted to continue to discriminate. They could have kept it up, but they chose to hate.

You want a traditional marriage? See my pic. That's as traditional as it gets...

bugwitch on February 8, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Nice that he dedicated his vote to Cal Anderson.

Reverse Polarity on February 8, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Wait... So if this bill passes, Rodne will leave?!?! What a great day!

strangerthan on February 8, 2012 at 1:58 PM

Would she allowed kids into her home if they were gay? I doubt it.

bugwitch on February 8, 2012 at 1:58 PM

If you have to enforce it, it is not a natural law. It's just something made up you are trying to justify without being able to give people a good reason why.

giffy on February 8, 2012 at 1:58 PM

SHORTER NORMA SMITH: You don't have to be religious to be a bigoted asshole!

jp on February 8, 2012 at 1:58 PM

Amendment 977: Arranged marriages only!

jmurray on February 8, 2012 at 1:58 PM

Norma Smith is being strangely level headed. I don't agree with her position but I agree with her rhetoric.

milleribsen on February 8, 2012 at 1:59 PM

I don't quite get how, as a small business owner, this bill affects me adversely, according to Rep. Norma Smith. Did I really just hear her say that?

katrat on February 8, 2012 at 1:59 PM

My favorite part of this lady speaking, "so, I am not a lawyer, I'm just a mom, but I think this bill doesn't protect individuals".

Uh, LOL WAT.

Also," we need to protect the freedom of religious people", but not gay people. UGH.

Original Monique on February 8, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Rep. Norma Smith (R-Clinton) appears to be a mushbrained sentiment spewing nutball.

gloomy gus on February 8, 2012 at 1:59 PM

O Norma Smith, stfu. Religious liberty doesn't mean you're at liberty to oppress others.

medievalistbrian on February 8, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Uh, Rep. Smith - private businesses *already* can't discriminate based on orientation. That law's already on the books, sweetie.

And @medevialistbrian: thanks for the literal LOL for "douchecanoe." My checkbook is with yours.

Somethingunique on February 8, 2012 at 2:00 PM

@Somethingunique - Glad to provide a laugh!

medievalistbrian on February 8, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Wait, so because this guy is a shitty dad, gay marriage should stay illegal.

Ben on February 8, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Somebody put a plastic bag over Klippert's head quick - he's tearily hyperventilating from rightousness. What do you mean, paper bag? I said plastic, and hold it tight.

gloomy gus on February 8, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Is Klippert seriously quoting Leviticus? *facepalm*

ERIN! on February 8, 2012 at 2:08 PM

This Klippert guy is douche. Quoting Leviticus?!?! Fucking a.

Maybe I have made a huge mistake watching this thing live. So annoying.

Original Monique on February 8, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Note: Murphy V. Ramsey was decided in 1885.

Rep. Klippert, please cite all pertinent information when quoting other sources.

milleribsen on February 8, 2012 at 2:08 PM

When I make my own new country, one of the rules is gonna be that any time a legislator cites scripture in session, a loud buzzer will drown them out.

Ben on February 8, 2012 at 2:09 PM

I'm so sick of them saying that children need the strength and discipline that a father gives and the love and nurturing from a mother. That is so sexist! Mothers can be disiplinarians and no parent ever showed love and nurturing like my father did. Having two parents who are women doesn't mean that a child will not know strenght, and having two parents who are men doesn't mean the child will not know love.

suburban queen on February 8, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Rodne, please put a cock in it and get off the stage.

rocketgeek on February 8, 2012 at 2:09 PM

DISCRIMINATION IS ALREADY ILLEGAL.

StellaLuna on February 8, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Gah! I can't watch any more of this. I'll spend half the afternoon in a rage. We already know it's going to pass. I don't need the stress.

Reverse Polarity on February 8, 2012 at 2:13 PM

I agree! I wish this whole same-sex marriage thing would go away too! Just quit fucking around with your bigotry and move on to the important things! Civil rights should not be an issue like this.

Quit with the bigots. Can I fast forward somehow?

bugwitch on February 8, 2012 at 2:13 PM

"What protects small business owners from not having to offer services to married gays if they object to them?"

Good question! How about this question:

"What protects small business owners from not having to offer services to married blacks and whites if they object to them?"

Joe Szilagyi on February 8, 2012 at 2:13 PM

At least it's nice to see that these peoples' small-minded idiocy is being recorded with their names for posterity. In a hundred years, Klippert's descendants will be looking up info on dear old great-grand-dad, and they'll find out that he was citing Leviticus and a thirteen year old girl for why he's anti-equality.

Jessica on February 8, 2012 at 2:13 PM

I can think of a really quick, easy way to start dealing with other, more important issues. A really really quick way to make the whole issue go away.

Ben on February 8, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Gee whiz Ahern, sorry we're wasting your time with civil rights!

srslywut on February 8, 2012 at 2:14 PM

OMG seriously you stand in opposition? With that sissy lisp? SERIOUSLY? Ugh. I mean ... I hate stereotyping ... but sometimes it's just fucking hilarious. "Shoshiety." Hehehe. I know's mean. "Marriagesh Exshishst for procreashun ..." He's either gay or drunk.

Brad in Seattle on February 8, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Small businesses are hurting! Let's make it easier for them to turn away customers!

giffy on February 8, 2012 at 2:14 PM

WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK ABOUT THE WEDDING PLANNERS?!

jp on February 8, 2012 at 2:16 PM

All these people talking about how children need a mother and a father are ignoring a couple of obvious points:

1) This is a MARRIAGE bill, not an ADOPTION bill, and to the best of my knowledge, nothing requires that children only be adopted by two parents of opposite sexes.

2) Most children up for adoption don't have a biological mother and father in the picture--which is why they're up for adoption to begin with.

Clayton on February 8, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Is he seriously trying to "respect the establishment of religion"? And he's blaming the fags for single parents and divorce?

bugwitch on February 8, 2012 at 2:17 PM

"Marriage has been deeply woven into our countries history" -- Yeah! Back to traditional marriage, where women are sold/bought, only people from the same race can marry. Whooo yeah! No divorce! Traditional marriage all the way.

/sarcasm

Also, this guys sounds like a total crackpot. He seriously just said he was upset that we took religion out of government. Wow.

Original Monique on February 8, 2012 at 2:17 PM

Wow, Lispy Bear gets the prize for most Jesusy crap in a single statement.

The CHZA on February 8, 2012 at 2:17 PM

If this guy says "Mr. Speaker" one more time I'm going to give up and leave to get lunch.

ERIN! on February 8, 2012 at 2:19 PM

Hope Klippert didn't have ham for lunch. Or a cheeseburger.

fruitbat on February 8, 2012 at 2:19 PM

STOP CITING RELIGION AS AN EXCUSE TO PROMOTE DISCRIMINATION!!! The Episcopal Church that I grew up in loves the gays (and women, and minorities, and pretty much everyone- which is what religion should be). They ordain gay ministers and support gay marriage. So when you talk about God's law and how God hates gays, you're not talking about any God I know. What about my religious freedom?

phedre on February 8, 2012 at 2:19 PM

Did this guy just say that God set America as king of nations??? Holy shit. I never save seen Dominionism live before.

Also: this fellow has a very unique voice!

Joe Szilagyi on February 8, 2012 at 2:19 PM

Just a suggestion for future live blogs - it's really helpful to readers if the posts display in reverse chronological order (latest first).

SandraL on February 8, 2012 at 2:20 PM

I hope we can remember the wingnuts are so emotional today because they know they're about to lose the vote. We can take heart from that.

gloomy gus on February 8, 2012 at 2:23 PM

I don't get the religious freedom angle. You're still free to disapprove of gay marriage. You're still free to tell your kids you disapprove of gay marriage. You're still free to marry someone of the opposite sex. Where's the loss of freedom?

truthspeaker on February 8, 2012 at 2:23 PM

100

Did HInkle just say he like the gays who sing and dance?

giffy on February 8, 2012 at 2:24 PM

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