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Of course the global banksters are ducking Occupy.

Chicago Spring Declares G8 Move a Victory
http://truth-out.org/index.php?option=co…

Taking nearly everyone by surprise, the White House announced last Monday that the world’s economic leaders with the G8 would not be enjoying the sights and sounds of a democratic #ChicagoSpring. The announcement that the G8 would be skipping President Obama’s hometown in favor of the much more remote and secure Camp David location reveals the fears the administration has of public assembly and popular protest.

Huffington Post‘s Julie Pace reported that “security and the possibility of protests were not factors in the decision” made by the White House. Not a security concern? That is a hard pill to swallow considering the city expects to spend between $40 and $65 million to police the Chicago protests and Obama’s recent signing of HR 347, the “anti-Occupy” law officially known as the Federal Restricted Building and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011. Clearly, the administration is anticipating “security concerns” regarding the thousands of citizens nonviolently demanding more democracy, justice and peace.

Sugar Russell, an activist on the Occupy Chicago Press Committee, spoke with me via email about the Chicago Spring and the G8 move. “The location of G8,” said Russell:

will not affect our plans to voice dissent against the atrocities that G8 inflicts upon the global population. The move signifies that they are afraid of the global voices that will be gathered in Chicago and that they feel the need to hide.

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Doesn't requiring a permit to protest violate the freedom of assembly?
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I don't buy it. Even before the "threat" of the occupiers, people around here were not happy about the prospect of G8. Emanuel wasn't going to take any chances. This is what happens when you have friends in the white house. This is why he was our first-round draft pick.
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Were they afraid another of Jennifer Pox's fetuses would make another appearance?
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I'm sure they were not enthusiastic for anything that could even remotely be compared to the '68 convention.
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This type of thing is one of the most fascinating forms of political conflict...one we see over and over...the clash of the radical left with moderate liberals.

We saw it in the 60s, and in Seattle WTC and now Occupy goes up against one of Obama's staunchest lieutenants!

It seems like the Left spends more of its energy trying to define itself versus soft bellied Liberalism than it does actually going up against the powers that be who hurt everyone! Is it because they know they can only win with their daisies in rifles approach so long as their opponent is a boo-hoo-hoo who will give in to "those kids and their good natured ideas".

Guess so.
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Making some distinction between the radical left and the merely moderate (we'll call them "liberal") left--and there is some true distinction; the groups have nothing to do with each other; the former is composed of disadvantaged minorities and many blue-collar, especially unionized workers; the latter are typically affluent, white, well-employed, property-owning, white-collar people who have historically fucked over the former group, failing to provide support when conservatives draw back the rights of said disprivileged "radicals"-- they ought to be represented by separate political parties. Democrats very infrequently legislate, at the federal level, for policies advantageous to the "radicals." Long story short, relatively affluent whites have lives too cozy to actually get up off their asses, rather than merely moan, to do something for their less affluent neighbors.

I don't even think you're a troll. You're just too stupid to know any better. But I'll forgive you; I'd never kick a dog merely because it was to stupid not to eat its own shit.
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it was not so much OCCUPY and more of the fact that the G8 has med serious WTO style protest everywhere it has been held for the last 20 years, hell it hasn't been held in a major city since Genoa Italy in 2001. The G8 is usually held in some rural stronghold military complex.
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@1 (What Now?): So, if protesters assemble outside a restricted area, refrain from disorderly or disruptive conduct, and do not impede ingress or egress to or from that area, they wouldn't be violating the law? Maybe just a few tens of thousands of unarmed people wearing t-shirts with identical messages out for a stroll along the shoulders of the route between Naval Support Facility Thurmont (Camp David) and whatever military airport they're planning to use? Yeah, I know. They'd just ferry everyone back and forth by helicopter, which they're probably going to do anyway. You know where they wouldn't have this problem? Gitmo.
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@8, yeah, G8's have always been what one alderman called "Mardi Gras for protestors". Occupy's again leaping in to claim it's all their doing.
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@2

Any radical would say "yes." The U.S. courts consistently say "no."

Mind you, the constitutional right is to peaceably assemble, a phrase that definitely doesn't cover every form of "protest." There's no constitutional right to riot.
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"is composed of disadvantaged minorities and many blue-collar, especially unionized workers"

Which explains why Occupy Seattle is 98% white kids with college degrees (you know, the 28%), one mixed race weepy trannie and Ian 'ass gerbil on his head' Finklewanker. About the lowest class person at occupy Seattle was the boil-faced, crustyJennifer Fix who turned out to be totally fucking insane, even by OS's standards.

Down at your union hall the actual union workers tried to beat down this motley crew of anarchists and radicals. Go figure.
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@10

To be fair, the organizers and core participants of Occupy and the organizers and core participants of the Global Justice Movement are pretty much one and the same, and the issues and rhetoric are interchangeable when they're not identical. It's entirely reasonable to view Occupy as the latest GJM action, only this time undertaken on behalf of the poor in the US, instead of those in some benighted corner of the Global South.
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@ 12. As a matter of fact, that union-hall scrap is interesting in its causes/participants/outcomes. (I'm guessing you're talking about the fistfight about the ILWU.) Care to tell it from your perspective?
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@14: You don't and will never know the half of it. Let's just say when a bunch of rag tag out of towners and local Trotskyists try to tell you what to do at your job, and the local anarchoMaoist-thug-security cadre tries to jump off on some shit, dockworkers don't take kindly to it. The "occupy" people were warned that this could happen months in advance, because of the tack they were taking. Like good radicals, they were not interested in advice and they reaped what they sowed.
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"aren't a “sufficient number of on-duty police officers, or other city employees authorized to regulate traffic.""

I remember that part of the constitution "you have the right to protest only if the local governments are totally cool with it and have enough police force to successfully infiltrate and cause violence to blame on the protesters who will then only be remembered by the violence the government needed to create because wait, you had a right to protest"
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@4 - What you and many others seem to elide is the fact that this is less about pure politics, than it is about the influence of money and corporate power in politics. Dem or Rep, both parties are corporate lapdogs for the most part.

And the factor of money in politics would seem to be a crucial issue for ALL Americans... but rhetoric and propaganda (aka "emotionalist" issues) have been successful at dividing the populace in these global times.

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