@95 I'd like Dan to get that part out of the way right up front, and say the words "Fuck you," as part of a denouncement of the Religious Right's "we're victims!" strategy.

He could say the words without actually invoking the insult. For example, something like, "Your side gets all indignant when one of your intended emotional-abuse victims looks at you, rejects your specious logic, and says, "Fuck you!" Suddenly, you act like you're the victims, that someone is trying to restrict your religious freedom, that there's an organized conspiracy against you. What drama queens! You should know that's nonsense, Alice-In-Wonderland Red Queen thinking. You're either cynically manipulating your followers, or institutionally paranoid. Maybe both. But, I'm a nice guy, so I wouldn't tell you to go fuck yourself, even if you did deserve it. On the other hand, your Bible does tell you just that."

And let the games begin. By the way, as the challenged party, Dan deserves the first statement.

I'd like to add my support of no audience. Also, too, hold the debate in Hutto, TX, so I can see it live.

GO HIPPOS!

@ 79, if someone wants to pony up for a plane ticket and room and board, I'm down with that.

OMG i am having an orgasm.

@41, seems like a reasonable compromise re: proceeds (after any incurred expenses such as venue and security) would be for Dan and NOMnuts to agree on a worthy local charity not related to the issue. Food Lifeline or something.

OMG. I am having an orgasm.

Would you debate the other Brown (author of A Queer Thing Happened to America)?

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Yay! You go Dan!!! :D

Dan, Please be certain to secure a venue where the debate will go on for at least 60 minutes, and preferably 90. If your "debate" is just a 15 minute segment on some talk show, Brian should be able to hold it together for the 6 minutes he'll have to spew. But if he's under the bright lights for 60 or 90, and has to come up with 25 or 40 minutes of tortured logic, the result will be soundbites will be seen on the TV box for years and years to come.

@103 I'm voting for Cedar Park, TX

language.. language.. language ?.. whatever.. fundamentalist bigots love to cower behind a fake civility of words when it suits them, but trust me the rest of us don't have any words as powerful as the ones they combine to demean us whenever they get the chance. dan ain't no fool and knows what to say, to whom, and when so... as we say in the hood 'dan .. you do YOU !'

The topic of the debate should be specific, and it should be about Savage's speech at the Journalism Convention. This is what caused Brown to issue the challenge in the first place so he would be in a poor position to refuse this as the topic.

Also, as much as I love the title of this post, Savage should be on his best behavior until after the debate, or until after Brown chickens out.

As for what should Savage say during the debate... I think all he really has to do is read the Bible.

Dan is brutally frank, unassailibly intelligent, wildly funny (when warranted), and, most of all, absolutely courageous. He cuts through the bullshit to get the real core of an issue. Obviously, the walk-out was staged and I wouldn't be at all surprised if those so-called "journalism" students were paid money for their little act. Anyone choose to investigate? For thousands and thousands of years biblical language has been used to terrify and control people. Enough! We're taking our fucking destiny back!

Live feed please, I've always wanted to see a firefly and a fire do battle

Brian Brown has 7 children? I bet some of would willing to step in to replace Brian Brown if they had to! UGH! Brian Brown perpetuated! Brian Brown has currently 3 health issues against him: obesity, smoking, and a vile, hideously anti-gay temperament, so who knows what his future will be.

The reply from Brown will go something like this, once Dan has named the time and place:

"I will happily debate you at _____ on ______ at ______ pm, as you have stated. To ensure that this will be a peaceable event that will not erupt into violence by homosexual bigots like yourself, you are required to hire security personnel from the neutral security company of my choosing. Tickets will be sold for this event, with 50% allotted to each of us to sell to our supporters, and because it is my challenge to you that brings about this debate, I will be entitled to 100% of the gross receipts for my organization."

There's a number of ways that ticket distribution and proceeds could be handled:
1) Tickets could be given away first come, first serve (like they were for the Hutcherson-Savage debate).
2) Tickets could be sold at a cost estimated to just cover expenses related to the debate, with no profit.
3) Each side could be allocated half the tickets, to distribute as they see fit. They could sell or give away the tickets, and could do what they want with any profits. If both sides sell all their tickets, for the same price, this would have the same net effect as spliting the profit, but purchasers would only be directly supporting the side they purchase tickets from.

I say Philadelphia will be a good city to hold this in!!

Hope the debate is on TV. I need to see this.

Dan, don't you just happen to have a TV show? Perhaps a "Very Special Episode" is in order? He did say you name the time and place.

Oh Dan, PLEASE make the debate in Madison, WI (the crime scene of one of NOM's rallys). I'll buy ya a slice of Ian's Pizza.

Oh this would be too too wonderful. I live in Detroit and would travel just about anywhere for this sort of thing. (I'm a debate nut to begin with, and a bible-literate atheist to boot.)

Go get him, Mr. Savage. It will interesting to see if that low life has the balls to stand up to you face to face in front of real live people instead of computer screens. I am sure that he is a typical Right Wing Gutless Wonder. Always ready to go to war as long as it's with someone elses body or children. Roger in Denver

You understand that brian the tool will claim victory regardless of the reality. The thumpers play science cards when it conveneint, and some weird ultimate truth "god is speaking to me and you can't refute that" kind of nonsense. I expect more of the same in this "debate."

@126 I like the way you think. A lot. The larger audience this debate takes place in the better.

STOKED!

Please make sure it is televised for those of us who would like to have viewing parties. Dreaming up drinking games.

Best thing you can do is open by asking him if slavery and murdering your children is bullshit. If he agrees, you're halfway there. If he disagrees, you've already won.

Awesome - well played Dan. I'm rooting for you. My humble suggestion? Brush up on the Art of War!

Well played Dan, I'm rooting for you. Humble suggestion: brush up on The Art Of War.

Did Brown name a time and a place yet, or did he totally puss out as expected, since the "place" wasn't Fox News?