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51% Oppose Obamacare?

Charles Mudede
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You can twist it any way you like, but America is a unique country and we require unique solutions.

That is why pure socialism doesn't work.

However, Romneycare does...because it blends!
Supreme Ruler Of The Universe on June 22, 2012 at 9:08 AM Report this
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@1,
What the hell are you yapping about?

ALL countries are "unique." So what?

Who's using pure socialism? The Health Care act sure as hell isn't, unless you believe giving private corporations gobs of power and authority is "socialism."

As for the original post, the republicans might not "spike the football" if the Supreme Court overturns the Health Care act; however, Fox "news" sure as hell will. It's all they'll talk about.
Urgutha Forka on June 22, 2012 at 9:25 AM Report this
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The number of people who oppose it goes down when the provisions of the law are described to them accurately. Fox News tells people that jack-booted thugs are going to take their medicines away and force them to have abortions, but it's not actually the case. The ACA is in fact the antithesis of socialism (more's the pity).
Fnarf on June 22, 2012 at 9:26 AM Report this
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1. charles, show your math. to me one sixth of roughly 50% is roughly ....oh nine points...adding that to the 41 points give 50 points not 65 points.
2. single payer, nationalized health care, private systems that are more like nonprofit trusts with super regulation, it's all pretty much the same thing: NOT RUN FOR PRIVATE INSURER PROFIT. all over the world this nonmarket solution works. like sewers, or electricity, or having cell phones. nothing about america's uniqueness means it won't work here. fuck man it works in fucking canada how fucking different are they from us, I can't even tell a canadian is one unless they tell me. peter jennings is one, I think. who knew?
on June 22, 2012 at 9:39 AM Report this
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Too bad they keep voting in ways that don't exactly conform to "we want MORE, not fewer, health care reforms"--especially in 2010.

If they actually had pushed Congress, they could have even managed to get a Public Option in the current ACA. Instead they sat back and let a few extreminsts throw a TEA Party and scare the bejesus out of Congress.
Andy Niable on June 22, 2012 at 9:51 AM Report this
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Good Morning Charles,
I am not so sure the GOP would be hurt by a ruling against Obamacare (I'm for it, BTW). I do know the Administration will be bothered big time. I've read an account of what the Dems/Administration is prepping for in case it, AHCA is rejected by the SCOTUS. It is at least a bigger conundrum for the Administration as the SCOTUS will have denied Obama his signature legislative achievement of his presidency.
lark on June 22, 2012 at 9:58 AM Report this
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Just to nitpick, 35% isn't a small number. That's about 1 in 3 people. It's far from a majority, but not insignificant.

That said, I really wish those 35% would pull their heads out of their asses.
T on June 22, 2012 at 10:37 AM Report this
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My project will be to collect photos and screen shots and clippings of gleeful conservatives dancing in the streets and leaving celebratory online comments after the healthcare bill is struck down by the Supreme Court. When thousands of people start dying after losing their health care because insurance companies will again be allowed to deny them based on their pre-existing conditions, we'll need concrete evidence to remind the public just how sociopathic and nihilistic the Republican party is.
john t on June 22, 2012 at 10:57 AM Report this
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And yet 100% of Americans are in favor of the Affordable Care Act-mandated rebates they're about to receive from their medical insurers...

It's all SOSHULIZM until I gots my fist full of dollars... then it's okay.

/sheesh
merry on June 22, 2012 at 12:51 PM Report this
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My non-expert hunch is that the Supreme Court will toss out the mandate and keep the rest, but if they toss the whole thing out and we go back to the way things were in 2009, and we lose all the benefits that came with the law, there's going to be some grumpy voters. Polls show that most people do want some sort of healthcare reform. They're not going to be happy with the GOP once we're left with the smoldering rubble of the ACA.
floater on June 22, 2012 at 3:13 PM Report this
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If you lose the mandate the math falls apart and some of the rest of the law goes moot. Although being nationwide; insurance companies don't have quite the whip hand they have with individual states. Harder to take their ball and go home.

I am not a huge fan of RomObamaCare but it seems better than what came before.

david on June 22, 2012 at 3:54 PM Report this
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If they rule against Obamacare and it leads to single payer in the next one or two decades, well, won't that be an irony - and it'll be inevitable. As it stands, out-of-control inflation of healthcare costs is going to force some sort of reform. Obamacare, single payer, and abolition of Medicare and Medicaid are the only real options to prevent total budget breakage. The third option will never fly in this democracy, even though Republicans can dream and delude themselves on it. That leaves single payer if Obamacare is overturned.
I have always been... east coaster on June 22, 2012 at 5:23 PM Report this

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