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Assholes.
Burnett testified that on the night of Dec. 4, he and the three other soldiers lured Roark and York to some woods a short distance from the Army post under the guise that they were going target shooting. He said Peden shot Roark's girlfriend in the head while she was trying to get out of her car. Salmon, he said, made Roark get on his knees and shot him twice in the head.
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Anarchists? Hm.
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Has any sort of manifest surfaced? I saw their 4 person militia had the acronym F.E.A.R.
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So what's the difference between a "militia" and a terrorist group? Skin color?
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Really, though, none of this should be a surprise. What I find surprising is that this doesn't happen a lot more often. And they may have had "big" plans but clearly their egos were in the way of reality.
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@4

The constitution mandates the former, evidently.
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@1

The article also suggests that the leader murdered his pregnant wife for the insurance money. Yikes.
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Maybe I'm dense, but the words "comrade" and "southeast Georgia" in the same sentence had me reading this as if it was taking place on the other side of the world.
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A few people planned on doing all that? Overthrow the government? Damn... How many movies have they watched? Go Army, I guess...

BTW far-right rednecks are the nastiest, most dangerous people in America, bar none. If at all possible, stay the hell away from them. You can't be friends with them for long. Eventually, their paranoid-racist-bigot side will come out and you will wish you'd never met them. Human empathy is not really a strength for them and they're always living in a fascist fantasy. I speak from experience.
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Nah, lots of comrades there.

Actually, $87,000 is not that much. At least in terms of equipment. When I used to do mountain combat engineering, my equipment cost about 1/5th of that.
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from an article on The Atlantic site about this incident: The news follows a controversial report published by Reuters' Daniel Trotta last week that the U.S. Army is battling soldiers within its ranks who enlist in the Army and Marine Corps "to acquire the skills to overthrow what some call the ZOG - the Zionist Occupation Government. Get in, get trained and get out to brace for the coming race war."
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That's freaking insane. I'll be surprised if there's not at least SOME commotion or something at the dem's nominating convention. They should just skip that freaking pointless thing in it's entirety and dump the $$$ to Obama's campaign instead. Or give it to some needy charities.
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http://www.myspace.com/thechamorrozoro

http://www.myspace.com/ElvenMercenary

FYI: Aguigui pregnant wife died of a blood clot in the lungs.
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@11, That's actually been going on for a long, long time. The skinheads, the gang bangers, the conspiracists, hell even the native american AIM members were all ok with sending their people to the Army. Where else are you going to get that kind of training for free?
Timothy McVeigh was government trained if you recall.
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Poisoning crops and blowing up dams sounds like a terrorist plot to me. Why are they militia and not terrorists?
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The logical conclusion of the Occupy movement.
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@16 Ha! Hahaha! Oh, thanks man. That was a good one.
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No the logical conclusion of the occupy movement is to kill the rich in a bloody class war.
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Hey 18 - did you know that back then, the political parties' ideologies were reversed? The Democratic Party in the age of Lincoln was just like the racist bigots of today's GOP.

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how were they planning to poison our apples? that kinda sounds like a pretty farfetched idea to me.. maybe they've been reading to many fairy tales.
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@14, exactly, and how many Taliban are we training in the Afgan "army"?
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@21

mind blown!
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Fuck. Hang them.
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So, you're actually *surprised* that there's a few raging nutcases who show up at (and volunteer for) political rallies?

Sorry, but political rallies attract crazies like magnets attract iron filings. Just try showing up at one some time, and you'll see. I swear a full half of that population is not entirely possessing all their marbles.
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I still don't get why they are called anarchists? Is it because they prefer direct action as a method? Are they individualist anarchists? They found some Stirner in a book shelf? Perhaps they are kinda like Nechaev (who was a jacobin but friends with Bakunin)? I honestly don't get the connection...
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@27 They're anarchists because that's domestic enemy number one, and if the House GOP leadership thought the DHS or DOJ were investigating right wing groups for indoctrinating disaffected soldiers or sending moles to the Army for training, there'd be some goddamned hearings about how Obama is trying to take our guns and our daughters, you better believe!
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They're not anarchists; they're fascists. The right's brand of crazy.
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That's still not as evil as what the homosexual agenda is doing to try to kill straight people. Just look at my evidence.

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/literally
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If it weren't for the murders, I would be writing these guys off as mere losers.

Four guys aren't taking over any kind of military base. Nor are they doing any large scale crop dusting or however they imagined poisoning a huge area.

How lucky they are Republicans in addition to losers. That wasn't redundant was it? Hmmm.
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@18: Um, no, he wasn't. Where is your evidence that he was?
As soon as you make shit up to try and prove a point, you immediately lose the argument. 0/10, nice try.
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Oh. He was from Cashmere, WA. That explains a lot, especially the apple poisoning idea. I grew up in Wenatchee, left when I was 13, and it was a good 20 years before I could stomach eating an apple again.
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@27, @28

They were described as anarchists because they all had identical A-in-a-circle tattoos. Which likely doesn't indicate a total commitment to anarchist ideology, but it's a bit of a stretch to presume none of them were aware of the semiotics, even if the tattoo wasn't a precise and correct rendering of The Anarchist Symbol (I know, I know!).

And while it's quite unlikely they self-identified as capital-A Anarchists, they were very clearly opposed to The State, and had an explicitly stated interest in returning governance to The People via Revolution.

Most Anarchists today are of course anarcho-communists, and modern anarchism has roots in syndicalism, but there is absolutely no reason at all that a good many crackpot right-wing beliefs* couldn't be held by an Anarchist, and to imply otherwise (or to feign confusion about this) is to wish for some rather problematic constraints on the moral autonomy of the Anarchist.

 

* Gold standard, anyone? Or Autonomy for Fetal Human Beings?
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@32

Our anonymous friend is, I think, trying to draw attention to the fact that at present, there's no evidence that the guy who was a page at the convention was the same guy who did the murders, rather than someone who just happens to share the same name.

Which would be a rather surprising coincidence, but still, if any news-gathering corporation in the US still has any reporters left, that might be something to actually track down, instead of just relying on the quickest nerd to type the name into Google and Tweeter the first result.
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Crazy killing seems to be on the fringe at all times. It seems to be enacted more on the right - actual killing - but the fear demonstrated on the anon comments and the judge in TX etc. seems to be about the danger posed by the left. My own take is that those who can imagine performing senseless killing, I suppose, are more likely to fear being killed senselessly.

And I guess that means I SHOULD be afraid even though I'm not.

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