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Thanks for doing this Eli hope people share widely
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sorry Eli,

your blah blah blah notwithstanding it is a good video.

thanks for gining it wider play.
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Jesus that video is rough. Someone put in a lot of time to wrap discrimination up in some stick figure flash nonsense. This is one step away from "are the blacks in your public schools? Are the jews in your neighborhood?"
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An old argument, but one that bears repeating: If you want to insure that chilren are raised by their biological mothers and fathers, you would be doing more to achieve that goal if you put your energy into making sure that heterosexual couples don't divorce! There are a lot more straight couples than gay couples, and with the divorce rate approaching 50% in many places, keeping the married men and women together is going to have a lot more impact than preventing same-sex couples from marrying. Especially when you consider that (a) GLBT people are somewhere between 3-10% of the population (b) Many of them don't want to get married, (c) many of the ones who do get want to get married don't want children, and (d) many--if not most--of the ones who do want children won't be able to have bio-kids, anyway, so they'll be adopting kids who have been given away by their biological, presumably straight parents. Arguments about protecting the interests of children who should be with their *real* biological parents are a subset of a subset of a subset. Want to make sure that kids are raised by both of their bio-parents? Encourage straight people to get married, and discourage straight people from getting divorced.-
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That garageband loop playing in the background will be stuck in my head all day
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Can someone please recreate this with verbatim, except swapping 'interracial' for 'same-sex'? Because that's what I hear when I watch this and I can't help but think that if others heard it, too, they'd see how ridiculous/hateful this really is.
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4

you're behind the times, C

and it's way worse than you think....

most kids today are born to women who never were (or ever will be) married to their fathers.

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@7 - Thank you so much for taking what must have been a considerable amount of time to so eruditely explain your position ("Burn the whores!" it sounds like?). You've changed a lot of hearts and minds on slog today.

Well done.
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I have a hard time believing there's even one bigoted florist out there who doesn't want to cater to the gay wedding market.
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@6 Watch this video all the way to the end.

He does it well.
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out-of-wed child birth/rearing is a serious social problem and the biggest contributor to child poverty, abuse and neglect.

your snark will no doubt improve the lives of thousands of otherwise hopeless children.
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@12 And so will your, and all of our comments on Slog! Just another really good point.
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@12: Being born out of wedlock is "the biggest contributor to child poverty, abuse and neglect"?
That's funny, I would have thought that being born to poor parents would be.
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@7, 12
If out-of-wedlock births to presumably heterosexual women is a huge threat to the well-being of children, I repeat my original arguement: it would be far more effective to encourage straight people to get (and remain) married than it is to prevent gay people from marrying.

And where gay people adopt children of (presumably straight, presumably unmarried) women, allowing those gay couples to get marries so they can provide the protections of marriage to those legally adopted children would also seem to be in the best interests of the children.
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@12 How many gay people are responsible for out of wedlock births? What does this have to do with gay marriage?
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your original argument was:

"If you want to insure that chilren are raised by their biological mothers and fathers, you would be doing more to achieve that goal if you put your energy into making sure that heterosexual couples don't divorce!"
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what is even funnier is that having kids outside of marriage is what puts most adults into poverty.
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we give up.

how many?

what?
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@17--
If you had read my post @4 thoroughly, you would have seen that it concluded with: "Want to make sure that kids are raised by both of their bio-parents? Encourage straight people to get married, and discourage straight people from getting divorced."

But I guess my original post was longer than your attention span. My apologies for challenging you to rise to unreachable heights.

As to your comment that "what is even funnier is that having kids outside of marriage is what puts most adults into poverty," I would repeat: put your efforts into encouraging heterosexual couples to get married, not into preventing gay couples from getting married. You'll be doing far more good for children in the long run, and you'll be reaching greater numbers of them, too.
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@18: [citation needed]
HA HA HA, OH WOW.
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@19 Zero.
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I'd like to find out who the VO woman is in this ad and ask her a few questions...
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Approve R-74.

"this kind of separate but equal arrangement is—wait for it—not equal [...] And, children of gay and lesbian couples, as well as the couples themselves, experience psychological harm from living with an inferior, not-quite-marriage."

I could not peruse all 79 pages of Harvard's study; are they saying that Civil Unions are worse than nothing, or just bad compared to actual equality?

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