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There are individuals in the nation capable of monstrous evil but they are not the nation.
they have a set of about ten lies and distractions they constantly replay. every one is false. other nations like japan germany england ireland about 30 in all, have strong effective gun controls and limits and THEY WORK becuase NO, they do not have these massacres and mall shooting nor do they have the violence plagued neighborhooods we got here in america totally making life impossible for the lower 20% of society. we hear lies that gun control doesn't work, that it's a mental health problem, that males cause deaths why don't we ban males, hmmm? that the second amendment blocks gun controls when in fact morons texas in the 1840s' BANNED revolvers showing that yes, even an individual right to bear arms, is limited, big duh. think about it. your speech is limited when "I do" produces consequences, you do not have an unlimited right of free speech. NRA has no comments as if needing to know more: our gun culture and ez access to guns caused this death; meaning its the gun owners and gun lovers and the denialists who block gun control who are at fault.
england has about 4% gun ownership. if you want to go hunting, you can, if you really need a gun for carrying cash around, you can get a license. but mostly they don't have guns all over the place the way our gun loving gun culture has here. so in england NO they don't have these massacres and NO, their poorer neighborhoods aren't as violence and depressed, and even their cops don't carry guns. pretty much the entire set of talking points of the gun lovers is a big old lie. they like it that these deaths happen, they exult over it, they fantasize arming more people with guns, they are groveling in death.
seek justice, not revenge.....
Liberals put a stop to that......
Ban guns and ban free speech. The first and second amendments must both be repealed. This MUST be done to make us safer.
It is time to face facts and force Americans to quarter troops......
Expect a replay in an elementary school near you, Seattle.......
hint....there are none
the same people who demand no laws regarding drugs, gay rights, and prostitution, want to enact heavy laws on guns. does nobody recognize how futile it is?
THANK YOU!
how dare people have the freedom to act in legal ways, the government should restrict all actions that might be used improperly.
If the Stranger wants to help, maybe they should moderate their coverage a bit. Two, three Slog posts would cover it (the tragedy, gun control, a late day followup, done). There are other things happening in America and the world, some just as tragic, some actually happy and good. This wall to wall coverage you guys are doing is CRAP.
The simple fact is, we don't have any answers for most mental disorders. Short of locking everybody up -- and where do you draw the line on Asperger's, exactly? A fourth of the US has mental illness issues at some point in their life -- there isn't any amount of money that's going to make this problem go away.
What makes guys like that terrifying is that they have virtually unlimited access to firearms of all sorts. Simple possession laws in one state obviously mean nothing; this guy was loaded for bear.
The only way to reduce these situations is to reduce the number of firearms and the amount of ammunition for them. Every "legitimate" firearm owner enables the spread of more weapons, whether directly by losing their guns to theft, or indirectly just by keeping gun shops and sellers in business.
I would hope that every gun owner in America would take out their weapon(s) tonight and say to themselves "I can't be a part of this anymore". But that won't happen; tomorrow morning the gun shops are going to be full of people buying new and stocking up.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012…
It's been gravely irresponsible to have let gun massacres (not to mention the usual murders that are little reported on anymore) become the norm, and to let gun advocates and politicians try to chalk it all up to lack of character education.
For once, both parties really are to blame for lack of leadership on this, and it starts with the cynicism at the top that decided that common sense gun regulation was an election-loser.
If you really want types of people to profile against - white men commit the vast majority of mass murders in this country.
...to the time of the Nazi invasion BEFORE the US was a superpower or before there were atomic weapons and hence before the entire concept of global superpowers.
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicid…
Spree murders are a tiny percentage of murders. That's the entire problem. We are completely desensitized to just our day-in-day out rate of homicide. Which in and of itself is insanely high.
Ok, yes, I often make sarcastic posts... this will be a non sarcastic one.
I definitely do not casually accept horrid, terrible events like this. Murders like these, probably more than any other major event, have a huge impact on how I feel about our country, guns, laws, and human nature in general.
For the record, I don't own any guns and never have. I've fired many guns (my father was a duck hunter and I was an infantryman in the National Guard some time ago) but it's been years since doing so.
I'm in favor of strict regulations on guns, scrutiny on gun owners and on people who've expressed interest in gun ownership, and harsh penalties for people who sell or give away guns without doing serious background and mental health checks.
That said, I can't help but notice that the "ban guns" crowd is eerily similar to the "ban abortions" crowd. Both want to get rid of something they hate, but don't seem to realize that banning it won't actually get rid of it (just like banning free speech wouldn't actually get rid of free speech.... which is the point of my original post).
I just want the knee jerk reactionary cries to at least be tempered by dialogue on trying to solve the REAL problem, not just getting rid of one of the symptoms.
yeah,
but you're totally good with banning the 3rd amendment,
right?
I don't believe anyone is calling for an outright ban on guns. There's a big range of options between a total ban and what we have now. How about we start with sensible regulations and see how that works out?
Can you let us know why anyone needs a gun? Other than to kill someone, that is. And all of you guys who say "knives kill also" can have your knives. Have all the knives you want. Knives are useful for other things. Guns aren't.
See the comment @33.
There you go. A call for an outright ban on guns.
There are so many comments in so many posts today I can only assume others have made the same suggestion to ban all guns.
Heh. As if that were possible. Maybe they're expecting Tinkerbell to come through and spread some fairy dust or something. Talk about being deluded.
I'm glad (and not surprised) that you didn't bother with any of the posts here today. They were, for the most part, knee-jerk, reactionary vitriol. A waste of time.
Gun control is like abortion control. Trying to stop it by cutting off supply is laughably ( and sadly) futile. You won't get anywhere until you address demand.