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Someone who goes to this needs to report back on what a "brand new dance" is like. Is it a choiographed line dance of some sort? A new varient on the waltz?
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DJ Booberry is spinning!
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How does "demanding" the end to any violent crime result in anything less than a circlejerk?

I don't understand why rape is treated like something you can shout down. Is the idea that eventually all of the fucked-up individuals who would ordinarily rape people will go "gee, I am way too against the mainstream with this whole getting drunk girls into my bedroom business?" Or is it just to make victims and advocates feel like they're doing something more than being upset?
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#3 - the latter
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@3 let's hear your alternate plan - we're on the edge of our seats.
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@5 oh not that crap again. This movie sucks - you make a better movie. This drawing sucks - you make a better drawing. If that's the best you can come up with as a counter then you've more or less admitted this isn't going to accomplish anything in the manner it's trying to posture.

Go ahead and rally together but please remove your heads from your asses before you think you're actually going to influence anything to reduce rapes.
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How are they going to fit a billion people in Westlake? Did anyone think about that?!?
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This strategy worked to reduce drunk driving. Why wouldn't rallying against rape work too?

It used to be drunk drivers didn't think of themselves as criminals, like murderers and thieves. They thought that they weren't "really" drunk. And everybody does it, right? And law enforcement's attitude changed: they changed how they enforced the law. It wasn't just a matter of drunk driving already being illegal, or already having stiff penalties. Cops and prosecutors and judges needed to change their attitudes about drunk driving.

Rape is very similar. Oh that wasn't rape, they think. Not "rape rape". And don't we all kind of do it? People make excuses for rapists. They blame the victims, directly, indirectly, in large ways and small.

We've come a long way changing how everyone thinks about drunk driving, and how we think about homophobic bullying, and all sorts of things. Why not rape too?
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@6 Feel free to come to the rally today and speak your mind, exactly in the manner you're doing now.
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Seattle, the home of rapeophobia!
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Oh joy, another rally in the rain....
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Westlake Center? How will anyone be able to tell the anti-rape dancers apart from the twitching meth freaks, anyhow?
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@9 get back to me when you have an actual rebuttal.
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If not for rape, how will Mudede and Goldstein get sex?
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@10: So ... is being "rapeophobic" a bad thing?
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#15, think of rape as the interpersonal version of the Caveman Diet, and maybe it's not so bad
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Anyone want to sign my petition against Murder?

It's over 1 trillion strong...

Much a do about nothing. Zzzzzzzzzzzzz
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#3, that's a pretty messed up thing to say. It may not mean anything to you, or not seem like a significant act in America, but in developing countries women and survivors of rape coming together to say *anything*, let alone demanding respect, are putting themselves in harm's way on several different levels. In places where it's not safe, ever, to be a woman. And they get to see their sisters and brothers in other countries standing in solidarity.

That's really not cool enough for you?

How about this: there probably ARE potential rapists growing up today amid people like YOU, who make rape seem inevitable, customary. And who ridicule people who have come together to celebrate their own survival of harm and to comfort each other. Rape, slut-shaming and blaming the target are so hard-wired in world society that yes. It's likely that enough people screaming "UNACCEPTABLE!!" will influence large groups of people and lawmakers over time and thereby push acts against women more and more to the fringes of unacceptability. Fewer people will even consider it an option.

But why am I giving you activism 101 - you're not even listening, are you? You keep shouting on here, and I'll go find people who aren't trying to shove THEIR heads up other folks' asses to talk to.
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So #18, how many people (apart from the twitching meth addicts) were at Westlake Center last night to demonstrate against rape?
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@18 >people like YOU, who make rape seem inevitable, customary.

Go fuck yourself. Thinking this is a waste of time has nothing to do with the position you're trying to associate me with.
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Self=well fucked. Thanks for the idea. Feeling much better. Your implication is that it's a waste of anyone's time, not just your own. Falling back with "hey, I'm neutral!" after pissing on participants is laaaaame.

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