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So, basically, they pulled a Seth McFarlane?

How 90s of them.
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This is only interesting to shallow novices who have never before been presented with the concept of auto-generated art.

It's mindblowing the first time, interesting the second, slightly annoying the third time, and after that you just want to strangle the lazy asswipe "artist" who abdicated his responsibility as a creator to a machine process.

"Oooh, the cut-up pieces formed a random pattern that I'll ascribe deep meaning to!"

This "art form" was thoroughly explored and abandoned 50 years ago. No respect for the "artist" here.
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Two things:
1. The art world's habit of lauding any art that is boundary-breaking or transgressive or controversial is how you end up with the Charles Krafft debacle, where the same critics who praised him for his edginess are furiously back-pedaling now that it's been revealed that Krafft's edginess may not have been so much a sly commentary on white nationalism as it was a trojan horse for white nationalism. Even now, though, there can be no question his work is edgy. The important question is "is edgy the same as good?"

This is what I think about when I see the headline about this "controversial" performance. Is the "controversy" here merely that some people thought it was crap? If so, generating "controversial" material sounds pretty easy.

2.The kind of meaning you are describing deriving from this is the kind of meaning you might derive from a Rorschach test. This is not to say that your experience wasn't valid, but it does raise the question of whether the artist deserves credit for anything you got out of it.
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I saw the show last Thursday and hated it. I've never seen so many people leave mid-show.

As a grad school thesis, it would have been successful. As a touring production in front of $25 seats, it was a failure. There was more potential locked up in the idea, and I wish a good editor or mentor had sent them back to the drawing board before sending this show on its way.
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Brendan, I thought Orgy of Tolerance was one of the most entertaining pieces of theater I've seen in the 20+ years I've been in Seattle. Satirical and hilarious in its themes of consumerism and War and Money as sexual gratification.

While I haven't seen A Piece of Work, it sounds like a show that would make some of our local programming talent cream their pants.
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Just to clarify, for anyone who doesn't click through to FB (which, I'm assuming, is most everyone): I didn't say 'A Piece of Work' was meaningless, I said it was flimsy -- a decades-old notion carried out with new technology but less invention or wit than when the Dadaists did it with a pair of scissors and a hat. I don't question than you can draw meaning, poignance, and humor from randomly generated text, but I don't see why you'd want to sit in a theater to do so. It would have made a fine interactive website.
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Sure, Markov chains are cheap old thrills - spammers have been using them to generate text that will pass through email filters for god knows how long - but when I think of how best to manipulate a text like Hamlet, well, a line like "Excellent, i' faith; of the chameleon's dish: I eat the air, promise-crammed: you cannot feed capons so." already looks like it's been run through one. Couple that with the themes of madness and the fading jumbled thoughts of the dying, and as cliched as the trick is, it simply fits.

Also, "randomly generated" doesn't really describe what's going on quite accurately. There were 15+ different sections, all with different originating texts and different algorithms to generate the output text. That's where the creativity lies - take a machine, match up input text to suit it, and make sure the output tends to be interesting. I thought the two most successful of these were Scott Shepherd's reading/melding of dialogue between Hamlet and Ophelia and the computerized rendition of Ophelia's last scene. Both were beautiful and heartbreaking. On the other hand, the ones consisting solely of stage directions were more trite and gimmicky - and 40ish minutes of solely computer-performed work was getting really close to sensory overload. I'm predisposed to like it, and it weighed down on me.
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I still talk about Orgy of Tolerance to this day. Not that I think it was a good show but that it sparked thought. That and the fact that we unwittingly brought my parents-in-law to see some "theater", not quite knowing what we were in for. That one was a bit uncomfortable!

And I don't think that "A Piece of Work" was a good show at all, but it was interesting. I even think that watching a piece fail horribly has artistic value. And good for them for trying. There are concepts to the algorithmic rendition that could work. Maybe just need better algorithms, or a bit more heuristic control. Surviving the failure with renewed energy to trying again is how we grow.
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My unpublished (HUH!, I wonder why they didn't publish it on Thu or ever):

In twenty years of reasonably continuous support and attendance at the OTB, this is only the third time I walked out. What do I think about the piece of work? A cute three-minute youtube video resulting from a first-year CompSci homework assignment -- stretched mastrubatorily and without regard to Shakespeare, Markov, human decency or human bladder into eighty minutes of self-congratulatory reiterative absurdity. That about sums it up. Skip.

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My unpublished (HUH!, I wonder why they didn't publish it on Thu or ever):

In twenty years of reasonably continuous support and attendance at the OTB, this is only the third time I walked out. What do I think about the piece of work? A cute three-minute youtube video resulting from a first-year CompSci homework assignment -- stretched mastrubatorily and without regard to Shakespeare, Markov, human decency or human bladder into eighty minutes of self-congratulatory reiterative absurdity. That about sums it up. Skip.

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@9 what are you talking about unpublished? I read your "review" on their blog alongside the others on Friday.
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@9&10 - there's occasionally a delay in when a comment is submitted and when it is posted on our blog based on the commenting system we have, but yours went live on Friday morning. Sorry that there was a delay!

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