I think what's happening is that the conversation is taking place, and that's driving the racist shitheads to the surface. It's like a boil, you've got to bring it to a head before you can lance it.

@6

They're like gun nuts in that way, though I'm not sure which group I would say is worse.

We love having the progressives, we do. But white people aren't going to give up their privilege. Why would they? They just aren't going to.

If the perspectives of liberal whites are so readily dismissed, and if blacks are unwilling to examine their own assumptions about "privilege", then you're not really having a conversation.

First, I think conversations about race should happen.

I have no desire to participate in them because they go nowhere in my experience.

The processing/call outs/etc seem to go like this.

Person of color raises valid grievance.
White person feels super bad.
Repeat.

A "conversation about race" is never uttered without its meaning at the very least a lecture about race, by a minority, addressed to whites. And that's if you're lucky. Most of the time, it's a call for a harangue or a good hectoring. And then when whites say, No thank, Soledad O'Brien and Jen Graves just throw up their hands and say, See? Racism!

So is she talking about how the yuppies want to use Lyft and Uber to get a white taxi driver?

Just gonna point out, the "black man in the elevator" scenario is what I do around all strange men I don't know; as I have been groped, harassed, threatened, and followed by men of all races. Older white men tend to creep me out the most. Identifying as 100 lbs and female can do that to a person...

@10

Clarify, please. What assumptions do blacks have about privilege?

"How does one "identify" as 100lbs?"

You can identify as anything. Biological and physical reality don't exist if I don't feel them. To think anything else is reality fascism.

It took black people 5 minutes to call the death of Trayvon Martin a racially motivated injustice where he was targeted for his race and what he was wearing on his head. It's been 20 years and blacks are still in denial that is what they did to Jews in Crown Heights even though there is 100% proof it is true.
I would have loved to have been at this talk about the Trayvon/Zimmerman incident and called bullshit on this.
Photos of Trayvon when he was 6 were all over the media. How many times was the photo of Issac BItton and his 6 year old son being attacked by a black mob shown?
Why did the police chief have to resign in Sanford FL for not arresting Zimmerman immediately but the black NYC police chief never suffered for allowing blacks to attack Jews, including children, for 3 days in NYC. The black mob who attacked Issac Bitton and his son in front of the police were never arrested and the police who allowed it to take place weren't either.
There are articles that include black community responses to the acquittal of Lemrick Nelson- including Al Sharpton's and Spike Lee's reaction. Not one word of outrage or support for the Jewish community or families of the victim. Just excuses for the lynching and blaming Jews. Compare it to their reaction over the Zimmerman acquittal. Look at how the black and leftist media-NYT, The Nation, The Amsterdam News, The Root, Grio, Global Grind- refers to the Crown Heights pogrom as "clashes between blacks and Jews" while referring to Trayvon's death as being an outrageous racist hate crime.
-Want to talk about blacks and racial profiling? Let's talk about Antony Graziosi, shall we?
-The same media who always say the Crown Heights pogrom was "caused" by a Jewish man committed a car accident in which a black child died never say that the Sanford FL incident was "caused" by the epidemic of black crime in that neighborhood. It's never even mentioned.
-Out of the 20 black males who mob murdered Yankel Rosenbaum only one was charged. He was aquitted. 14 years later he served a short sentence for the civil rights violation in that incident. Sharpton and co were outraged that he did any time at all. I would like to know: do blacks think this in fair? If so, they have nothing to complain about Trayvon or any other black "victim". If they don't think it's fair show me where they objected. I have read extensive coverage of this in the black media and comments are almost 100% almost exclusively supportive of the lynching and the only judicial complaint is that Nelson was ever charged with violating Rosenbaums civil rights.
How bout we talk about that?

"We love having the progressives, we do. But white people aren't going to give up their privilege. Why would they? They just aren't going to"

Yes, white people stop to death elderly black men in this city and never serve a day in jail.
White people are responsible for an epidemic of mob attacks on random blacks in this city for over a decade which have led to many people being killed and permanently maimed and the media won't cover it.
Whites make up most of the crime in predominantly black neighborhoods and blacks are so afraid of angering whites that they ignore it or make excuses for it.
Whites make up 6% of the city's population but get over 50% of the social services.
Whites are responsible for every murder of a person of color in the past few years but continue to claim blacks are victimizing them.
Whites were allowed to assault and kill blacks while the police stood by and did nothing during Maudi Gras. White advocates screamed racism that people noticed they were so disproportionately represented. The newspaper would not publish photos because it showed whites made up most of the perpetrators.
Whites go around calling black people "privileged" and "entitled" if they do anything that doesn't revolve around them. Whites never call white people these things when they get away with things no black person could. Whites make up 13% of the general population and less than 6% of the Seattle population but believe it must be 100% about them 24/7 or they are being victimized and oppressed.

" Yes, white people stop* to death elderly black men in this city and never serve a day in jail."

*stomp

http://crosscut.com/2011/12/21/washingto…

Simply being black in Washington means you will get longer sentences, are more likely to be arrested, and are more likely to be found guilty of a crime than whites.

White guy commits x crime = 1n sentence
Black guy commits SAME crime = 1n+y sentence.

@thetruthhurts

Truthfully MOST hate crimes in WA are white on black. Sorry is the facts break your little stormfront recruiting, but thats how it is. Further, while MOST violent and nonviolent crime in the puget sound region is by whites, blacks (and latinos) are, by far, more likely to be profiled, arrested and incarcerated for them...likely by white officers who have the same *who gives a shit about facts* racial ideology as you.

@26: Nobody gives a shit about hate crimes, which are by now almost wholly a political designation. Stick to quantifiable acts of violence: murder, rape, aggravated assault, citing victim reports. Then report back to us on 'the facts.' Or, just stay in your little hate crime fantasy land.

@27

The victims of hate crimes give a shit about them.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hat…

Majority of hate crime victims = black.
Majority of offenders = white

So how about you actual research the facts before you spew any more of your little stormfront defenses of HATE.