I don't hate the guy (as you pretty obviously do), but I do think he stopped being relevant a lot of years ago. I don't really care where he goes; I won't pay much attention to him anyway.
He's not just everything wrong with the Democratic Party, he's everything that's wrong with politics. It's just a game to him, a game by, for and of rich people.
This is why Hillary in 16 just doesn't move the needle for me. The Clinton machine unleashed a lot of these nihilist assholes on us. Lanny Davis is by far the most vile of these turds but Carville is in the running for 2nd.
Since we're piling on, I'll just add that it always amazes me when I see that somebody let Carville sit in front of a TV camera. Because that motherfucker is not exactly easy on the eyes. If Dr. Evil's ugly hairless cat could talk in a cynically exaggerated southern accent (how "folksy"!), that would be James Carville.
the dude helped wofford get in then helped clinton giving us peace prosperity and first two term democratic president since ....the big guy.
huge fucking success. and since he wrote lots of good books about standing up to gop lies, fighting for the middle class.
as to being on fox, good for him. someone has to speak to that part of the country it's stooopid to write them off, give up, keep our smug attitude -- fox is a huge media outlet and we need to engage and win over some of their audience (even if only 1% of it.) Bill Reilly just spoke in favor of a higher minimum wage -- should liberals not go on his show, too? reminds me of a candidate I knew who would not shake hands at any worksite unless it was union. he lost. not speaking to the opponents is a good way of caving in and losing and Carville has more balls than most liberals around here. The hate here is of atwater scale -- no one cites a valid reason for it y'all.
@12, As long as they bring his drugged up plastic surgery wax face wife Matalin on with him that's fine by me--she's a laugh riot every time they get her on.
Sometimes I like to make a list of the creepiest, most grotesque fictional characters from the last thirty years of popular culture: Jason, Michael Myers, Leatherface, James Carville and Mary Matalin, Freddie Krueger...
If this guy is how we "win", considering who he'd represent, I'll fucking lose. Fuck mainstream Dems for supporting his sleazebaggery. His wife is only slightly more retch-inducing.
I must say, this intra-party vehement anger at James Carville is quite astounding. I had no idea.
It's also getting incredibly silly how much importance we place on pundits whether it be to Bill O'Reilly or Rachel Maddow, whatever side you're on, whatever political disposition you have. These people are the Sugar Frosted Flakes for a poor breakfast, flamin' hot Cheetos and 40oz Steel Reserve for our political dinner - nothing more, nothing less.
It's as if folks on this thread are terrified that their ideas are being challenged, and that the American people are too stupid to decide for themselves and that the cable pundits are a threat to intellectual growth and the advancement of civilization.
Since the printing press was invented, there has been yellow journalism and it is always ruffling the feathers and upsetting people for, in the ultimate analysis, no reason at all.
@26: Plurality of opinion is precisely what I'm advocating, I'm just amazed that people find it so threatened by pundits.
Democrats are centrists? I agree the the GOP is not the party that it used to be and its extremists have blemished it significantly, but regardless of Will Rodgers's insight (hi Machiavelli) it seems to me that democrats these days would find JFK to be right of center -- definitely in Obama's eyes. After all "ask not what your country..." would be rephrased these days by Obama as "ask not what you can do for your country, but what your country can do for you."
Oh, and yes I did have the opportunity to greet James and Mary at one of their speaking engagements and they couldn't have been more gracious and nicer. They are a truly charming couple. A good time was had by all.
@27 Hi sweetie. Yep your right JFK was right of center for his time hence his tension with MLK and in a very different way his tension with LBJ. And lets not forget the tension between MLK and Malcolm X.
Drop the lock step thought process of the Republican party and Will Rodger's joke/truth gains greater depth.
I'll take the messiness and contradictions of the the last 100 yrs of the Democratic party over the increasingly brutal and confining lock step of the Republican party any day.
I don't wish that to happen to him: I just think it would be a fitting end for that piece of shit.
the dude helped wofford get in then helped clinton giving us peace prosperity and first two term democratic president since ....the big guy.
huge fucking success. and since he wrote lots of good books about standing up to gop lies, fighting for the middle class.
as to being on fox, good for him. someone has to speak to that part of the country it's stooopid to write them off, give up, keep our smug attitude -- fox is a huge media outlet and we need to engage and win over some of their audience (even if only 1% of it.) Bill Reilly just spoke in favor of a higher minimum wage -- should liberals not go on his show, too? reminds me of a candidate I knew who would not shake hands at any worksite unless it was union. he lost. not speaking to the opponents is a good way of caving in and losing and Carville has more balls than most liberals around here. The hate here is of atwater scale -- no one cites a valid reason for it y'all.
@4 Dick Cheney?
So of course he belongs on Faux News.
If this guy is how we "win", considering who he'd represent, I'll fucking lose. Fuck mainstream Dems for supporting his sleazebaggery. His wife is only slightly more retch-inducing.
It's also getting incredibly silly how much importance we place on pundits whether it be to Bill O'Reilly or Rachel Maddow, whatever side you're on, whatever political disposition you have. These people are the Sugar Frosted Flakes for a poor breakfast, flamin' hot Cheetos and 40oz Steel Reserve for our political dinner - nothing more, nothing less.
It's as if folks on this thread are terrified that their ideas are being challenged, and that the American people are too stupid to decide for themselves and that the cable pundits are a threat to intellectual growth and the advancement of civilization.
Since the printing press was invented, there has been yellow journalism and it is always ruffling the feathers and upsetting people for, in the ultimate analysis, no reason at all.
"I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat."
Will Rogers
don't you understand?
Well fucking duh. As a right-winger you no doubt love Carville and his wife.
Democrats are Centrists, not Lefties.
Democrats are centrists? I agree the the GOP is not the party that it used to be and its extremists have blemished it significantly, but regardless of Will Rodgers's insight (hi Machiavelli) it seems to me that democrats these days would find JFK to be right of center -- definitely in Obama's eyes. After all "ask not what your country..." would be rephrased these days by Obama as "ask not what you can do for your country, but what your country can do for you."
Drop the lock step thought process of the Republican party and Will Rodger's joke/truth gains greater depth.
I'll take the messiness and contradictions of the the last 100 yrs of the Democratic party over the increasingly brutal and confining lock step of the Republican party any day.