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Well, I never!
If so then that is stupid & cruel.
If not a joke, then just plain stupid.
Trigger warnings just about dumbest thing going.
Someone needs to take the Troll out for some fresh air.
http://tinyurl.com/l9guukk
"Trigger warnings just about the dumbest thing going"
No baby, that would be you.
You are so easy.
Exactly.
And where do we stop?
Friend asked me "How's your sweet cat?"
I almost started crying -- no joke -- when she asked because I had to euthanize the cat a few weeks ago.
Should I hand out Trigger List to anyone I might meet asking them to words/concepts which my upset me?
The whole Trigger Warning thing is -- except in _maybe_ some extreme situations -- just a bad idea.
http://www.democracynow.org/2014/6/23/pr…
So kindly fuck off.
No, I won't and you are way out of line to even suggest that I or anyone should shut up.
Comprende, dude? Or dudette?
Almost any word or phrase could be a Trigger. It is impossible to know what could disturb someone. Maybe you have Turkish heritage...you might very well be upset by the Armenian Genocide and feel enormous remorse. Or maybe you are upset because you deny the Armenian Genocide....see the problem? Just about anything could be a Trigger...every thing you read could be a trigger to someone.
Listen friend, you don't get it.
If you don't like a comment, just IGNORE it.
Grow up.
shut up you pussy. Trigger warnings are just more bs for people who are too pussified to control their livee.
go fuck off.....and eat a turd.
You may well be correct: that I am totally wrong & this issue may have been discussed here for years.
1. So fucking what? Why make a big deal about it?
2. Your manner of discourse is not persuasive; in fact it is just the opposite. Rather than explain why I am wrong, you try to silence me. Do you really think that is an effective way to communicate?
3. Your comment @36 is incoherent and makes no sense.
So give it a rest fella and go fuck yourself. :)
You misunderstand and I suggest you read and understand the whole thread.
If you or anyone wants to discuss Trigger Warnings, fine.
But Delerian was trying to tell me to shut up and NOT discuss the issue because the issue has already been settled in previous SLOG posts. I found him both asinine and hilarious.
Do you want to talk/discuss? or just tell you to fuck off?
Get out while you can, and stop taking the bait, bright ones.
People who get their panties in a bunch about trigger warning always skirt the issue of PTSD. They don't really want to believe it's a real thing, so they compare it to ordinary sadness or discomfort ( oh, and sorry about your cat @28, that stinks. I mean it). Nobody likes to feel like an asshole because they accidently triggered some one, so they get defensive, and ironically end up acting like assholes.
Trigger warnings are just good manners. If you aren't the one at risk, then who cares? Why should your irritation at reading Trigger Warning trump some one's PTSD? I mean, why so sensitive anti trigger warning folk?
* Has our social ostracization of sex workers created an unsafe environment for them?
* Has out society's attacks on drug addicts contribute to allowing predators get away with rapes?
* Are rapes reported by sex workers or drug addicts less likely to be reported and investigated, thus allowing for the development of a predatory culture?
* What the fuck can we do to prevent this in the future?
But no. All that anyone wants to talk about is the trigger warning is going to force warnings up about a century old genocide or talking about cats. So fuck you again. You derailed any potential for conversation over your personal gripe. You are a selfish fucking asshole.
If you don't like a trigger warning, just IGNORE it.
Grow up.
If one does not like the content of an article, he or she can close the book or look away. Unfortunately, those who issue trigger warnings want to us to know what is fit for others to read. The notion of trigger warnings started on the path of best intentions and we know where that road leads.
Regards
I disagree with your framing of trigger warnings as a form of censorship ( deciding what is fit for others to read). It's a warning, not a prohibition. Once alerted to the content one is still free to read the article or not.
Just like with spoiler alerts.
What does "Pridge Wessea" mean?
I don't think it's a vulgar name -- cute actually...like a cute little prairie dog -- so what does it mean? Something Polish?
Hex, thank you.
Yes.
Just look at return address on envelope & email: there's your Trigger Warning.
There are NO thinking Republicans any more.
(And George Will is not the issue so put aside the substance of Will's column.)
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arch…
If so then that is stupid & cruel.
If not a joke, then just plain stupid.
Trigger warnings just about dumbest thing going." is clearly substantive.
discuss trigger warnings.
That is not what I read:
See @30:
"@28: I swear to God, you people are fucking idiots. I just wish for once, just once, that when people started to discuss trigger warnings that they wouldn't open up with a strawman argument. There are tons of different discussion options, yet you people seem to only fixate on imaginary consequences. In any case, this isn't the place for it. It has been discussed in depth on Slog many times.
"So kindly fuck off."
Delerian is an asshole. He very clearly tried to control the discussion:
"In any case, this isn't the place for it. It has been discussed in depth on Slog many times."
I'm guessing you don't give a shit. You were inconvenienced by a trigger warning, but not by the fact that sex workers and drug addicts were lured into a van and raped on camera (which is probably the only reason that the police would even consider pressing charges).
You stopped talking about rape, friend.
You could have just kept making your point ---ABOUT WHICH SUBJECT NO ONE DISAGREES! No one said anything -- because OF COURSE rape is bad. Wtf.
Don't blame me but yourself.
But you won. Take the rewards. Express your brilliant points about trigger warnings. We all want to hear. I won't contest them.
1. Ignore them
2. Argue with substance of what they are saying
Not smart to tell them that "This subject not allowed" or "This subject is out of bounds" or "You are not allowed to talk about X". You (or any commenter) simply doesn't have that right.
If you think what person says is truly out of bounds, Report it to Moderator.
And especially not smart by telling them to "Fuck off."
I am sorry that things didn't go the way you were hoping. Same here if that gives you any solace.
Oh shit.
How do you know that I "intentionally derailed" anything?
In fact I didn't at all have such intention.
I thought that subject of rape is so obviously bad that what is there to say on SLOG, for chrisake. It's not as though there was discussion of some proposed law or whatever.
I am done; you are not smart enough to engage. Goodbye and do me a favor and don't read my comments much less actually respond.
Pretending that trigger warnings are just about ordinary discomfort is petty and childish. PTSD is a real thing. If you don't suffer from it, why should your irritation at having to read "trigger warning" trump the right of some one being allowed to know a head of time that an article contains something they may need to avoid?
I'll ask again, why are you anti-trigger warning folks so sensitive?
This is in effect meaningless and not everybody is going to use them - spotty at best.
Very gracious of you to admit it and take responsibility.
As I wrote (not all of which may have applied to you, since I don't keep track):
Lessons if you disagree with someone:
1. Ignore them
2. Argue with substance of what they are saying
3. You (or any commenter) simply doesn't have right to tell anyone that "This subject not allowed" or "This subject is out of bounds" or "You are not allowed to talk about X".
4. If you think what person says is truly out of bounds, Report it to Moderator.
5. Especially not smart by telling them to "Fuck off."
Lissa, I hope that will learn your much-needed lesson.
Good. You listened.
But responded inappropriately.
Your proper response should have been to either deal with the substance or ignore me.
Instead you acted as if you can "Shush" (= STFU) me (or anyone else)
Of course you can "Shush" it but it is rude and no one takes it seriously.
In this case I am not ignoring you but dealing with your substance because I am amused.
Look, this post has dropped below the horizon. No one in their right mind is bothering anymore. You've apologized and I accept. So let's say we call it quits? Peace, sister.
You have received no apology, foolish Grasshopper, and you won't be, from anyone, any time soon.
Pax vobiscum.
Again? I have one post here. Delirians response to folks who don't see the point of trigger warnings is disproportionate... Much like your own. How about quit freaking out at me? I was kidding about the trigger warning for trigger warnings, but holy shit it seems like it should be a real thing now.
You seem to have misunderstood me. "Again" as in @67 was the third, or possibly fourth time, I had pointed out that trigger warnings, like spoiler alerts, are just good manners. All either of these conventions do is provide additional information to the reader to assist in their decision whether or not to read a given article. And, pointing out that the mild irritation one might experience having to read the words trigger warning does not stack up against the PTSD some one could experience is hardly, "freaking out".
You seem to get really uncomfortable when a woman expresses an opinion don't you?
Oh I get it now...if I am going to make a comment deriding, ridiculing and making fun of Trigger Warnings then I have to indicate at the top of a comment something like "Trigger Warning/ Subject: Ridiculing Trigger Warnings"...I like that...I'll try to remember and work it in when appropriate....such as when first used by the Poster.
And I do wish I could have the power some folks suggest -- that I can derail whole conversations! Lovely!
Best to you and be careful out there.
I have no idea as to what your gender is. You and delirian both seem like psycho conflict junkies.
I'm sorry that spirited discourse freaks you out so much typical lefty. Maybe Slog isn't the place for so delicate a flower? I hope that's not the case. Sloggers may fight like cats in a sack, but compared to some other forums we are pretty soft core. And we generally can spell and use good grammar, which you must admit, is a plus.
I'd hate to think how you would fare on say, Reddit, or in the comments section of the Seattle Times, if some one like little old me upsets you so.
Works for me, dear.