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Convenient to the political objective.
But Slog can't bring itself to reporting the store video of a strong armed robber that shows Michael Brown to be a thug, inclined to charge at people to intimidate them. Inconvenient to the Party Beleof.
And unlikely to report the much-more-plausible eyewitness accounts, instead relying on the fanciful tales of his documented criminal accomplice.
http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/168698-e…
(What's it like waking up in the middle of your own brainwashing?)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=maA1FUJqhe…
Gotta love how you need to go WELL out of your way to find a video that edits out the clearly criminal Mike Brown. Nice. Try this instead.
http://youtu.be/IbsiFFPPdW4
You kids were quick to jump on the Trayvon-as-Martyr bus, until that went off a cliff. And now in your haste to reinforce the liberal meme of systemic racism, have been caught celebrating a criminal, and denigrating an officer before his own right to justice (doing a job you would never have the huevos to do).
In a grand (repeated) rush to judgment, you look like total asshats. Just admit it. It'll be over quicker.
So indeed, no, fuck YOU.
I took special delight in reading/watching the new eyewitness accounts, with you in mind.
To hear your lament: "Fuuuuuuuck! What, ANOTHER video refuting my worldview? I'm goons' look like a total shithead on Slog now,"
(You do.)
And tell us he's not a racist.
Apprehend the suspect and put him before a jury of his Ferguson peers.
The larger picture goes unchanged. The withholding of the officer's name (non-cop suspects never have their names withheld), no video released despite body and dashboard cameras, the response to the protests, the shutting down of the media, the military equipment.
There is nothing we can do to prevent teens from occasionally acting like thugs. But we have a responsibility to respond better than they did in Ferguson (better than they do in most cities). And police brutality, dishonesty, and incompetence is a much, much easier problem to solve than the things that make kids do thuggish things.
The point about the source of the video reporting is well-taken. So two questions: do you doubt the video, despite the people who chose to transcribe & report it? And if the video is fair, does it worry you that broad media would choose to ignore it, in favor of a tactically implausible scenario told by a guy who robbed a convenience store 7 minutes prior?
Yes I agree Ferguson cops seem like idiots in their response. That doesn't mean Officer Wilson didn't shoot Michael Brown without just cause.
What's interesting in this rise of the Left State is the facilitity for people to create false heroes, quickly make them martyrs in defiance of facts, and then impugn the intelligence and motives of those who point out to the sheeple that these have been the characteristics of totalitarian states throughout history.
Watch the video and read the story @1
There is now substantial eyewitness evidence that Michael Brown behaved to the cop (charging him) just as he did 7 minutes prior on video tape robbing the store.
DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS. Ignore them, don't respond to them - it's what they want. Don't give trolls/bigots like Zok any food or they will return like the starved rat they are.
Love it.
@26 - Lol, of course not. How silly of me.
Bifurcation society into two states is an excellent way to grab power. What if the role of State was severely limited? Why do those on Left and Right think the answer is controlling others? Why do you support controlling others?
Obama a centrist? Only to those who enjoy a casual reference to failing EU states?
NSA
IRS investigation
Tapping reporters phones
Drones
Extrajudicial killings of Americans
Gitmo (still open)
Bombing Yemen, Lybia
Nationalization of healthcare (16% GDP)
Executive exclusion from law enforcement of immigration.
You can be neither Left or Right. But Obama is not a centrist.
Free your minds
Errr,so strong arm robbery is shoplifting now? What's next, he was taken an APP credit course for college on the economics of 'Swisher Sweets'?
So let the record show that this partisan and edited video had revealed nothing.
Futher, everything you list demonstrates nothing leftist in goal. All happened under Bush too. So you've failed to make any kind of case.
"Free your mind"? Yours is chained to the wall. Free yours first.
Sure there is. Officer Darrel showed a good and perfectly legal example of what can be done.
" no video released despite body and dashboard cameras"
Fergeson police have neither. They should, but they don't.
"eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable"
Only when it goes against your narrative.
>>>>>>>>
Transcript of witness moments after the robbery and shooting:
#1 How’d he get from there to there?
#2 Because he ran, the police was still in the truck – cause he was like over the truck
{crosstalk}
#2 But him and the police was both in the truck, then he ran – the police got out and ran after him
{crosstalk}
#2 Then the next thing I know he doubled back toward him cus - the police had his gun drawn already on him –
#1. Oh, the police got his gun
#2 The police kept dumpin on him, and I’m thinking the police kept missing – he like – be like – but he kept coming toward him
{crosstalk}
#2 Police fired shots – the next thing I know – the police was missing
#1 The Police?
#2 The Police shot him
#1 Police?
#2 The next thing I know … I’m thinking … the dude started running … (garbled something about “he took it from him”)
how is it partisan or edited? simply because it puts more egg on your face?
#1 How’d he get from there to there?
#2 Because he ran, the police was still in the truck – cause he was like over the truck
{crosstalk}
#2 But him and the police was both in the truck, then he ran – the police got out and ran after him
{crosstalk}
#2 Then the next thing I know he doubled back toward him cus - the police had his gun drawn already on him –
#1. Oh, the police got his gun
#2 The police kept dumpin on him, and I’m thinking the police kept missing – he like – be like – but he kept coming toward him
{crosstalk}
#2 Police fired shots – the next thing I know – the police was missing
#1 The Police?
#2 The Police shot him
#1 Police?
#2 The next thing I know … I’m thinking … the dude started running … (garbled something about “he took it from him”)
If eyewitness video is notoriously unreliable -- wouldn't you start by dismissing the word if a guy who committed a felony 7 minutes prior? (Wow, you're getting desperate)
If the video is "partisan" are you suggesting the witnesses whose voice we're hearing are two secret agents of the Fascist Right, inserted into Ferguson for the purposes of creating this diversionary media? (Or just folks from the neighborhood who said what they saw, caught on audio?)
As for 'edited' -- you mean "record" and "stop"?
Lemme guess: Last week you talked a bunch of shit about The Man in Ferguson. Next week you'll keep your mouth shut a little, as the tide of evidence grows. That's fine. Shutting your mouth does informed civil discourse a service.
And by partisan, I mean that it's circulating creditless right wing sites, not credible media sources. And by edited, I mean that the beginning is clearly after they hit record and the ending prior to when they stopped recording. What did they cut?
Also, why not subtitle everything? Why only highlight the parts supporting the right wing narrative?
Finally, why can't you rise to any of my challenges? How does knowing you can't prove the "left wing state" feel?
Firstly, don't lie. It wasn't shoplifting
Secondly, don't lie. He was shot, according to police and at least one eye witness account or charging police. Which sounds about right seeing what he did to that poor shopkeeper just moments earlier.
Your comments about the tape revealed nothing but your deep paranoia that you might not be right. In fact you're totally not right.
So, how does that feel?
Well if you assault an armed man, you are allowed to shoot them to defend yourself.
So will the NBA force Ballmer now to re-sell the Clippers for his racist comment?
#40
But #31 is a barnacle:
http://you-read-it-here-first.com/viewto…
Not to get all English teacher-y, but this sentence is a grammatical nightmare. Apparently the assailant is either shooting him/herself, or has been given permission to shoot the person being attacked. And at one point in this process, at least one of the individuals concerned is undergoing asexual reproduction, magically dividing into two or more people.
We too busy looting.
really?
law enforcement officials are too busy looting. surprising.
also - zok, is a racist piece of shit troll. who has not answered the most important question posed at @22.
things _are_ _very_ confused right now. conflicting interpretations of the video in the convenience store. conflicting eyewitness testimony. unanswered questions about dash and/or body cams.
but, this remains - Michael Brown was shot in the back from 35 feet away. (the police have stated this.) what can someone do to deserve being killed in this way? unless you are in active combat in, let's say, saipan in 1944, the answer is nothing. . .
The question put to me in @22 was whether someone should be shot if they posed no threat to police. Both the police report, and the video I posted in @1 call into serious question whether Brown was a threat.
The police have yet to release the detailed report -- so how is it you know where he was shot?. The only "witness" is a person who has just committed a felony, who claims that an officer, seated in his car, was able to grab a standing 6,3" 290 lb man by the throat, and hold him, then pull a gun and shoot. While seated. Uh-huh. Sure.
you are lying about their being only one witness.
there is the man Michael was stopped with, the officer himself, and the neighbors in the area - not just 1 witness.
a CNN interview with a woman who was there when Brown was killed said Brown was struggling with the cop through the car's window. A shot was fired, Brown pulled away and started running. The cop exited the vehicle and shot Brown in the back as he ran. At that point, Brown turned around with his hands up in surrender. The policeman continued to fire several shots 'till Brown was dead.
as i have stated many times, things are confused. but, it remains he was shot in the back, while no longer a threat to the officer in question, so, please answer the question from @22 . . .
http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/au…
Police tell Detroiters to buy guns in city riven by race issues and crime
City police chief has encouraged residents to arm themselves as stark racial disparities in ‘shoot first’ laws become clear
Detroit police chief James Craig – nicknamed “Hollywood” for his years spent in the LAPD and his seeming love of being in front of the camera – has repeatedly called on “good” and “law-abiding” Detroiters to arm themselves against criminals in the city.
https://new.livestream.com/accounts/4521…
https://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035…
Inconvenient.
Then, a fellow perp creates the witness narrative that the cop shot him sitting in the car., while holding him by the neck. Then a video & transcript are released @1, stating that's not what everyone saw.
Inconvenient.
And then people,saiid the cops shot him execution style in the back.
And this evening an INDEPENDENT family autopsy is released.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/mic…
Never shot in the back. And apparently not at the close range from being shot by a person holding Brown by the neck while they sat in a car. (Which makes no sense from a physical anatomy standpoint.)
This is all turning out might inconvenient to those who were quick to say "racist cop" --- and probably thought Trayvon was a sweet kid.
Meanwhile, where's that guy who shot Michael Brown?
Quick, better change that story. Autopsy is out. All in front.
"The cop exited the vehicle and shot Brown in the back as he ran."
Whoops, guess his baby mama was lying cuz the family's autopsy says shot in front.
"it remains he was shot in the back"
Do you people read the New York Times ever or do you get yer facts from some guy with a Twitter handle of "FerguzonPosseBoyz"?
"Michael Brown, the unarmed black teenager who was killed by a police officer, sparking protests around the nation, was shot at least six times, including twice in the head, a preliminary private autopsy performed on Sunday found."
New York Times.
The guy -- the cop -- who shot Michael Brown is in seclusion somewhere, because his department superiors want to make sure he's not in danger.
Comment by Judy Taylor from this article:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisgeidner/amn…
From CNN:
However, the New York Times, reporting on the same independent autopsy, reported that two of the bullets struck Brown in the head. The other four struck him in the right arm -- and all six were fired into his front.