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1
It will be fun watching all the bikes end up in Downtown Seattle.
2
dumbest.idea.ever.
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I'm so happy to have signed up! There's a station a block from my apartment. Whee!
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Hate to break it to you, but if these are the same bikes the program in Chicago uses, they're TERRIBLE. None of the measly 3 speeds is appropriate for an experienced cyclist (or anyone trying to go faster than a grandma), the handlebars don't adjust, so people under 5'7" are screwed out of comfort, and they're heavy as fuck. I wish it were otherwise, but they aren't worth the money to ride. Save up for your own bike instead.
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It's not interesting that Kubly likes the bike share...he worked for it.
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a) When I signed up just a minute ago they were still offering the "early member" swag

b) Perfect gift idea! I signed up the BF and now bday is taken care of.

@1: like car2go -- god, I hadn't even thought about the fact that it'll be impossible to get one on the hill after the Amazon commute. And for the reverse problem: I just looked at the FAQs, and they'll give you a 15-min credit if a station is full when you attempt to return it (time to get to another station), but still...it means you park your bike where you don't want to be.
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@6, they'll be shuttling bikes around constantly, normal practice for working bikeshares around the world. Expect rollout glitches and twitter firestorms, then smooth sailing.
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Seriously, Anna. I can't figure out if your failure to mention Kubly's financial ties to the bike share are an intentional softball or sloppy reporting.

Murray clearly picked him in part because of his history with the bike share.
9
Why not just buy a bike?
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@4: These aren't the same bikes as are being used in Chicago. They're 7-speeds and geared way down to accommodate Seattle's hills. They're not light, but not super-heavy either.

I rode one last weekend and it rode nicely. I wouldn't ride one for STP, but to get four miles from downtown to the U District, these will work just fine.
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@9

I rode these in San Fran when I was there for work. The actual bike rental shops had short hours, and you have to get to one first, perhaps on a bike. I only needed the bike for short trips, and wanted to put it back when I didn't need it. The experience of getting the bikes out and returning to the kiosks was pretty slick.

I have my own bikes where I live, but not when I'm on vacation or traveling for work. If they had this where I live, I'd use it like I use zipcar, and use it for occasional times when my normal transport is in the shop, or it's in a superconvenient location and I didn't have my regular bike for some reason.

If 30 minutes seems short, know you can daisy chain your rides; I did that to get across town diagonally. Return one bike and immediately take out another and keep riding.
12
Or you can spend your 85 bucks wisely and buy a reliable bicycle of your own. That you can ride as much as you can and keep as long as you want. Your choice.
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@12: I'd be willing to bet that the majority of people who sign up for Pronto also own a bike. I do.
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Why not buy a bike? Here's why: If I ride my bike (which I already own) to King Street Station for a business trip to Oregon, I don't think it will still be there when I get back two days later. $85 gets me a bike where and when I need it and prevents me from having to replace my own bike. Cheaper than cab rides, faster (and maybe cheaper) than buses.
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@14 I agree with you entirely, but King Street Station really should have bike lockers.
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50 stations, 500 bikes, it's like they're trying to be mediocre
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@11 I suppose if you travel a lot in warmer climates, this would be worth the cost. Otherwise, public transport costs less and does not have any hills to climb, rain puddles to avoid and hip deep snow.
18
Hey, I hope this works, and if people like it, that's great. But I'm a little baffled by who, exactly, this sort of thing appeals to.

I have no interest in membership, not because I hate bikes, but because I already own a bike. Two, in fact. If I want to bike somewhere, I can already do that. So this caters to... people who don't own a bike? How many non-bikers are likely to fork over money to bike share?
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Also, considering annual maintenance cost on a decent bike probably runs at least $85, this still seems like a bargain, particularly for people who don't necessarily have $400 + to shell out for even a low-end city rider. Plus, no worries about it being stolen, or where to store it. These definitely don't look like the sort of bike you'd want to ride on your seven or eight mile commute, but for a quick jaunt to the next neighborhood over, they look like they'd do just fine.
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@12: Why not both? Use your personal bike for roundtrips from your house. Use bikeshare when you find yourself downtown/UD/CapHill and want to get a dozen blocks away. In the past you would have cabbed, maybe found a bus going in a similar direction, walked for a long time, or fought for a new parking spot --> over a year, you'll save your additional $85 if you do those on occasion. (And once you have the pass, you can use it simply for a 15-minute joy ride on a sunny lunch break from work.)
21
Get a car, hippies.
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@18 I have a bike, but already signed up. It's perfect for the times when I find myself on the hill/downtown/SLU/etc and needing to get a few blocks quickly and there's not a bus going that direction and I don't have my personal bike. Or I know I want to ride one direction and not the other. Or I know I'm spending the night somewhere and don't want to leave my personal bike locked up outside overnight. So many great reasons to do bike share even if you have a bike. I'm super excited for this and will still ride my personal bike for commuting, and will use this to supplement my daily rides.

Plus, my friends who don't have their own bikes can now ride with me! Hooray more friends on bikes!
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@18: These are the times when I would have used it just last weekend (which, admittedly, is likely more than my average weekend, but hopefully it helps answer your question): 1) It would have replaced Uber: I parked on CapHill for dinner in a spot I could leave my car overnight, and took an Uber to go to a drinks venue after. 2) I walked from Sbux on Olive to Cal Anderson ball fields. 3) I would have checked out something I saw was for sale at the north end of Broadway, except I had a parking spot near the old Bauhaus that I would lose, and it just wasn't worth waiting for two buses or paying for a car service. 4) I walked from a friend's house on 17th to Broadway/Pine. 5) I took an Uber from Amtrak station to meet friends for drinks on the hill.
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I'll bike to work and probably still use Pronto to run errands during the day because I won't have to pack a lock or change my shoes to just go a mile or two.
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@20, 22, 23, etc.

Thanks for the examples. I feel more enlightened already. I guess I was being pretty narrow minded in my bike use.
26
What happens if, during your 30-minute period, you want to, say, duck into a store that's not near a station? You couldn't just leave it on the street unattended. I guess you could get a small cable lock to use in those situations.
27
Like Pike Place Market, I will not be "branded" with a corporate sponsor while using a bike. I will, however, be on the lookout for people who chose to forgo the optional helmet rental and call them lawbreakers.
28
In cities with competently-managed bike shares (Montreal, Boston, Paris, and many others), the things are positively life altering!

Shame, then, that Pronto appears to be run by morons: The coverage area is nonsensical (including in their long-term plans). The station apportionment is asinine. And thanks to a financial relationship with Children's Hospital -- perpetual floggers of discredited overstatements of helmet efficacy -- Pronto has become a willing participant in our local culture of anecdotes-over-facts helmet orthodoxy.

Thus, a "free" 30-minute trip (on a slow, upright, low-center-of-gravity bike that renders dangerous maneuvers all but impossible) now requires a $2 helmet rental every fucking time, or you might get tackled by a cop while riding!

Seattle has never met a worthwhile idea, with ample worldwide precedent, that it couldn't fuck up in implementation.
29
Lulz. Just received a receipt:

"Thanks for joining the SCHEME-NAME! .. Welcome to the SCHEME-NAME! ..

If you need help or have any questions, please contact us at SCHEME-PHONE-NUMBER or by email at SCHEME-EMAIL.
Thanks for joining the SCHEME-NAME and happy riding!
The SCHEME-NAME team
https://www.prontocycleshare.com
30
At least they use HTTPS in their return URL. Too bad the TLS enabled website is still set to pre-launch and only the unencrypted version is live for sign-ups.

(the signup process is secure, tho)
31
Not sure why Kubly's past ties are relevant in this case. Planning for bike-share predated him by at least a year, probably more, so it's not like this is some shady deal where he brought them in because he's got cozy ties. The only way it seems really relevant is that he may be (somewhat) uniquely suited to ensuring its success.
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@30 (self) nevermind, it says "October 13th" for the launch date of the actual service, not sign-ups. HTTPS/HTTP versions are identical. As I was.
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@15 King Street Station does have bike lockers...you just need to take your bike to the Stadium LINK stop. There are bike lockers for rent there.
34
I enjoy that decided to leave out upper queen anne and ballard!
35
i enjoy they decided just to ignore QA and ballard.
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@35: If you go to this link, you can suggest locations for new stations. Talking to a Pronto rep on Saturday, I found out that the most requested neighborhood is Ballard, and that Ballard and Fremont stations will be coming soon.
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On a related note for those of you who intend to use this: Clorox Disinfecting wipes are on sale at Safeway.
38
Interested in the idea, but disappointed at the proposed stations - my hood is not among them (Central/Leschi). Off to suggest...
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i heard there are genetically modified head-lice stationed in the loaner helmets which burrow into your brain and make you think good thoughts of monsanto genetically modified (head-lice)
40
Neat idea, I'm excited about this. Not sure how often I'll use it, but I'm glad we're doing it.
41
Stuff white people like. Get a load of the station map: the hill and the U. Ballard next. Then QA, Magnolia. Bikeshare will come to Ranier and Columbia right about the time hell freezes over.
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@26. I ride 4-6 bikes a day (DC, Capital Bikeshare) and leave my bike unattended and unlocked all the time. There's a tracking chip in the bike; a fact that seems well-known by the public. I might be pushing my luck a little, but in every conversation I have with the bums and street people near where I place my bike, they mention the "GPS" (I have a lot of convo's about the bikes; people are really curious about the service). If one were missing when I come out of a store it would take minutes for Capital Bikeshare to find it and direct the police to intercept.
BTW, I also own a bike. I just got tired of hauling it down the stairs when the freight elevator is broken, and having to carry a lock everywhere.
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@12- $85 for a reliable bike? You haven't bought a bike recently. The used market in Seattle is grotesquely overpriced.

I hope this works out. I'm not it's target market because I'm already on a bike all the time, but it's always nice get more people riding.
44
I am not looking forward to a bunch of new people on bikes around the busiest areas of the city. Riding in heavy traffic is not for everybody, particularly new bikers. Picture the tourists! They can hardly walk through the city without being a hazard.
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@44, I'm sure it'll come with a pamphlet about the WA state rules of bike-riding. You know, like rental car companies won't rent to people without valid driver's licenses.
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@42: My living room window looks out onto a Capital Bikeshare station across the street, and it's a beehive of activity. I haven't tried it myself yet since I always ride my own bike, but a friend who's visiting soon plans to use it so we can ride together.
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@46, cool. I recommend getting a key, even if the visit will be short. I THINK one can get one in the mail. It will save your friend from having to type in a code to get a bike out of the rack.
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@44: Driving in the big city is not for everyone either.
49
There are no plans to expand this bike-rental system to Seattle's poorer neighborhoods, ever.

Why? The FAQ is illuminating:

By launching first in the densest areas of Seattle, we can ensure a successful, financially stable program that will allow us the opportunity and resources to expand into less dense neighborhoods where stations may not have enough traffic to be self-sustaining.


The key to understanding this explanation is realizing that they are talking not about human density, but about wealth density. The program is not being driven by the transportation needs of the people who live here, the program is being driven by the "need" to keep money flowing into the program.
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I used the DC system a few years ago when I was there for a conference. It was a great way to get to see a little of the city instead of sitting on the metro. And it was a lot quicker than the metro. I was really impressed with it and I'm excited to see a similar system coming to Seattle.

However, I'm a little disappointed in the exclusion of Ballard and Fremont. I live in the former, work in the latter. I'll hold off on signing up until it's in those neighborhoods, but I'll be cheering for its success in the meantime.

Oh, and the ridiculous helmet law needs repealed. These bikes are slow and upright by design, and hardly dangerous. If the system will fail for any reason, it'll be that people don't want to pay the extra $2/ride to rent a helmet.
51
Only existing riders will use them.
The Pronto bikes are too heavy for novice riders.
So-called "intuitive" gear changers might be useful, as many will ride in one gear all the time. Silly.

And I agree, the limited range is disappointing. GPS in each bike might be interesting for data collection of trips, stations, "rest stops" and the inevitable [Stolen Pronto] episodes.
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Only existing riders will use them.
The Pronto bikes are too heavy for novice riders.
So-called "intuitive" gear changers might be useful, as many will ride in one gear all the time. Silly.

And I agree, the limited range is disappointing. GPS in each bike might be interesting for data collection of trips, stations, "rest stops" and the inevitable [Stolen Pronto] episodes.
53
We have had a successful and growing bike share program in the Twin Cities for the past several years. The first season saw the loss of a single bike. Over the past years the program, which definitely started out in high density (population and $) areas has expanded to a much greater diversity of neighborhoods. The initial 30 minute limit before additional charges accrue has been lengthened to 60 minutes for annual pass holders. All this is due to the immense popularity of the program. IMNSHO the lynchpin of the program is the app that shows real time availability of bikes AND empty spaces to ride them to.

The bikes are hardly racers with a mere three gears that keep speeds down but allow the weaker bikers to conquer hills (we do have a few here in the Midwest) but they are easy to handle. A couple years ago the program even sponsored a free helmet day.

Good luck Seattle, I think you're going to like them
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@50: Indeed, the only failed bike share programs anywhere in the world have been in places that refused to waver from their misinformed helmet dogma.

Some cities have relaxed their helmet laws specifically for users of upright bikes over a certain weight, in anticipation of initiating bike shares.

Without exception, the total -- not per capita, per rider, or per trip, but total -- number of bike-related injuries (including head injuries) has dropped in cities with successful programs.
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I voted YES.
But do get them potholes fixed sooner than later! My foot got stuck in one recently while crossing the street. They are a hazard to all: pedestrians, bikes, and cars.

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