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1
Shocking people can't ride up Dexter. I'm not a fan of riding through the parking lot, but I can do it.
2
My favorite free parking spot for the Triple Door and Benaroya disappeared under the 3rd Ave cycle track, but you don't hear me complaining?! Well, except just now. But still, I gladly give it up for the greater good.
3
Currently, cyclists CHOOSE TO pass through the parking lot itself, where they're vulnerable to colliding with hundreds of entering and exiting vehicles.
4
I bet in the Venn diagram of puppy kickers and the anti-cycling/cycletrack crowd, there's a HUGE overlap.
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@4 no, that's kittens.
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@3: Perhaps they "choose to" ride through the lot because it's a designated multi-use trail, the Cheshiahud Loop, which was the brainchild of our previous clueless mayor, Greg Nickels.
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@6, Nickels had a clue; in fact, he had a number of them. Most of them were detrimental to Seattle, but he knew what he wanted to do and did it. Our current mayor, however, only seems to know how to hire City employees at high salaries and appoint many new task forces and committees, and then blankly watch everyone squabble with each other.
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The goal here should be to maximize the safety and efficiency of our transportation system. Not to maximize places for people to store private property on public property.
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@8 Paid parking of a registered vehicle is not storing private property. As opposed to unregistered, mostly untaxed bikes parking on sidewalks to the detriment of pedestrians.



If you want "to maximize the safety and efficiency of our transportation system," take the bus.
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@6, we've discussed this before. Your precious "trail designation" is for the existing sidewalk, not a route that goes through the parking lots. Take a close look at the divots" in a map of the trail and you'll see it's because they jag with the existing, east-side sidewalk..... not the parking lot.

Seriously, what sort of moron would say "riding your bike in parking lots is a part of a trail" ?
11
It's almost funny.



In this war torn world people are fighting every day to not get killed fighting to find enough food to feed their family. Fighting to find a roof over their head. Fighting to survive.



and these Westlake Stakeholders are fighting the good fight for... parking.
12
There's bicycle infrastructure on Dexter, parallelling this entire route. What's wrong with using that?
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@10: The CLUL is not marked, merely signed sporadically. At points next to Westlake the sidewalk cuts through the parking lot. There's no way for a cyclist to know that the parking lot is not part of the trail.

And this was the idiocy of "designing" this trail. The Nickels administration merely took existing trails, roads and sidewalks, plopped down some signs, and called it a trail around Lake Union. It is not one.

But you've clearly never ridden it, so have no idea what you're talking about (again).
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@12- Nothing, and I generally do to avoid the obstacle course down there. But it also requires climbing a steady hill only to drop the same elevation down to the Fremont Bridge. Just like drivers, bikers (especially those that are new to biking) are going to take the path of least resistance, which happens to be the flat waterfront trail along Westlake. Not to mention that there's a lack of good east-west routes in SLU to get up to Dexter from Eastlake, etc. Keeping it unsafe just to prove a point is irresponsible.

Only losing 15-20 percent of parking seems like a pretty big win in context.
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@1 @12 @14: For me, Dexter is the route between Fremont and downtown and Westlake is the route between Fremont and SLU. They serve different purposes.



At the cycletrack meeting, someone said parking on the west side of that non-arterial street/parking lot is unlimited and free. Wouldn't changing that policy free up parking for businesses and boat owners?
16
fuck the little peddle bike crowd.



time to go Death Race 2000 on those assholes.
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@15, I use them interchangeably to get to SLU. If I'm feeling lazy, it's the Westlake parking lot. I think this is for the jerks who want to show how fast they can ride without doing the work of climbing Dexter.

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