Columns Oct 7, 2015 at 4:00 am

Gay Times

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LW3: Regular anal sex loosens/relaxes the asshole and you get fewer hemorrhoids generally after that. At least that's what happened to me.
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My first impulse was to tell you to mind your own business

That was also my first impulse. My second was to lecture LW on the mental and physical health risks associated with anxiety.
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EOD attempted partial return
(the “Hunter Seems to Like Me For Some Reason” issue)

Dan’s main takeaway for this week: “meddling mommy impulses are a requirement for this gig.”

My very own giveaway: Avoid anal sex while intoxicated. At some point I noticed her using the glass cleaner spray on my nightstand as a lube…
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@ 1 - This kind of "game" is usually thought up by "bi-curious" guys who actually want to lose, but don't have the balls to own up to their desires and admit that they really want to get fucked. Then they make sure they haven't masturbated for a week before any encounter so they come really quick. In spite of that, they think that their "honor" will be saved if they only let themselves get fucked because they lost the "game", and that whoever else is involved or learns about it is too stupid to realize what's going on.

Of course,
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LW2-DERPES I'm no expert on the Craigslist "casual encounters" section, but I don't believe anyone with three brain cells EVER puts their real name on there. That seems to indicate that LW must have recognized the friend by his dick pic alone. I've heard of "facial recognition" but pecker recognition? Just how did LW get so familiar her gay friend's package?
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@ 6 - He may have put up a face pic too, being young and inexperienced and all that.
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If your friends can recognize you from your CL ad, so can your employers and mom. I might mention it b/c of that, In. case LW's friend didn't realize the pictures or details of his ad exposes his identity (at least to those who know him well.)

But there's no harm in friendly reminders to practice safe sex apropos of nothing. If LW is afraid of meddling but isnt content with total inaction, she could just mention the benefits of TruVada for some manufactured reason instead of mentioning the CL ad.
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I ought to be surprised that Mr Savage ignores the example of the late David Rees, whose luck in relationships was not incredibly good, but whose preferred relationship model always included each party's maintaining his own home. I'd try that first.

My limited experience of people who have had a relationship all their own way for a period of time suggests that they aren't likely to be grateful for a new paradigm even when it allows the relationship to continue in an altered state. But Mr Savage has the mailbag.
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I wonder if CHEAT's boyfriend is already cheating on him. Does he go quiet when CHEAT mentions an open relationship because CHEAT doesn't know it's already open (on boyfriend's side)? Or because he can't handle the idea? If boyfriend is already getting his sexual needs met elsewhere, it could also explain the lack of sex at home.

Or, upon moving in, did boyfriend discover something so sexually unappealing about CHEAT that it killed his desire? It's possible to hide a myriad of bad habits through the first months, or even year, of a relationship, but time and proximity tend to reveal the flaws. Personally, the longer I'm with someone I truly love, the more I tend to find (most of) my partner's supposed flaws endearing, rather than distancing. But I have heard of people discovering big turn-offs further into a relationship than I'd have thought likely.

Or is boyfriend asexual, and once he had CHEAT hooked, sighed in relief and gave up pretending he liked sex?
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@ 10 - "Or is boyfriend asexual, and once he had CHEAT hooked, sighed in relief and gave up pretending he liked sex? "

Yes. It's called bait and switch, and it's extremely common.
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vennominon @9,

Bingo! Even though I have no idea who the late David Rees was.

My friend Sharon Hyman is making a documentary about couples who live separately, ‘Apartners.’
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"(wouldn't that technically mean he's the only person you don't have sex with?)

What a fantastic parenthesis!!!
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An exclusive relationship without sex is not monogamous, it's mononongamous.
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Tip for DERPES's friend: posting in "casual encounters" rather than "men seeking men" is a great way to make sure your straight friends will see your dick pic while guys who'd be up for playing your game won't.
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@15 Within Casual Encounters you still have to choose a subsection (M4M, W4M, MW4M, etc). So the only way his straight friends saw his ad is because they were either specifically looking at the M4M section of Casual Encounters, or they were just looking through ALL the Casual Encounters ads (though why anyone who didn't want to see just a barrage of dicks would do that is beyond me).
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CHEAT I have to ask what do you want to preserve a relationship with someone who's pretty much wearing a shirt that says 'I Don't Care About Your Needs'? Not every relationship needs to be preserved like the Sistine Chapel. It will suck yes, but you have no kids and no mortgage. It's time to walk away.
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@4 "using the glass cleaner spray on my nightstand as a lube…" ... so did the nightstand fit?
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CHEAT: Just rip off the band-aid. You know he doesn't want you fucking other people. And he doesn't want you fucking him either. You're gay, there are no kids involved. Take Dan's advice and either negotiate an open relationship or leave the relationship. And maybe think about leaving it a bit longer before you move in with your next partner.

DEFEAT: "Arousal helps," said Glickman." Ya think? DEFEAT could get his guy to tease him mercilessly until he's gagging to be penetrated. Until he has to beg. He could also let the guy just finger him at first, and maybe frotting. Anticipating something huge being shoved up your arse is a great way to get your arse to seize right up.
And I'm gonna go against CMD @4 and recommend anal sex while intoxicated. Whatever substance gets you the most relaxed -- booze, weed, ecstasy, poppers -- try that. Just don't overindulge and, uh, make sure you have actual lube handy.

Rowing @8: Good point, and this is the one I'd actually lead with. "Uh, you know you're recognisable in your Craigslist ad, right? My husband and I like to surf these for shits and giggles and there you were. Oh, by the way, if this is really what you're into, I hope you're playing safe blah blah."
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Alison @12: "Apartner" -- I love it! I have been wondering what to call my not-primary-but-in-reality-a-primary-though-we-both-love-having-our-own-places lover. This one could be a winner.
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Ms Cummins - David Rees and Peter Robins were hugely instrumental in establishing SS male publishing in the UK. Mr Rees drifted into an OS marriage, had two sons, came out, had some depressing SS affairs, got AIDS, wrote a lot, and died. He wrote mainly short stories with the occasional novel thrown in, then gave up fiction and wrote mostly about travel and music.
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DEFEAT: Rimming. Get lots and lots of rimming. You will love it. Think about penetration in a few months, but in the meantime: get rimmed.

BiDanFan: You’re welcome!

vennominon: Thank you.
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@14 "Mononongamous" is a winner. Let's keep it.

Agreeing to monogamy isn't agreeing to mononongamy.
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This will sound like sour grapes, but CHEAT's suffocating situation makes me glad I'm single!
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Ugh, CHEAT, no no no. You say you are a terrible liar, and your BF very perceptive. You sound pretty sure you'll get caught. If you are looking for a way to break up that will stick, and be hideously painful for all involved, your plan is aces. Otherwise, no. Break up, or announce your intention to fuck other people (and likely your BF will do the breaking up. Or maybe not! Stranger things have happened.)
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@seandr: Whatever substance gets you the most relaxed -- booze, weed, ecstasy, poppers

With an especially stubborn case like this, I'd go with a more aggressive treatment protocol and prescribe all of the above.
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@DEFEAT: I had the same problem, you might try the Square Peg Egg Plug, which comes in XS-XXXL sizes. Start with the smaller sized units and work up to the bigger ones at your own leisure.

There was a time when I wasn't able to fit anything larger than a Magic Marker-sized dildo in me without causing extreme discomfort/pain, but the Square Peg Plugs are more rounded than the standard dildo. They will help to stretch you down in there in a very comfortable way. Just wear it until your body is ready for the next size up. Unfortunately, they're not cheap, but well worth the price.

I never thought I would ever enjoy anal play, but the Square Peg plugs changed all that.

Good luck.

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@ 25 - It's also clear that if they got to the point where they are now, it's because the BF is an excellent liar and the LW is not very perceptive. Hopefully the LW will keep that in mind during all his subsequent discussions with the should-be-ex-BF.
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@Ricardo: An exclusive relationship without sex is not monogamous, it's mononongamous.

Lol. "Monotonous" also works.
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CHEAT: break up. Now. You will eventually. This will not imrove, and you will be miserable. If you really want a long, committed relationship, break up now so you can find the right person. 3 1/2 years is nothing...if you can't sustain it now, what makes you think 20 years down the road...when the real stuff in life creeps up (SICKNESS and in health...better and WORSE)? Find someone with whom you're open and compatible. As someone who's been in a 23- year relationship, I know. If we weren't on the same wavelength (for the most part) we would have never survived our parents' deaths, job losses, cancer...life ain't easy. But the right partner can he you through the tough times, and help you celebrate as much as possible along the way.
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@ 29 - It most definitely does.
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@27, "Square peg" has got to be the worst name for a butt plug I've ever heard. No, I don't want to put a square peg in my round hole.

Also, this is terrifying: https://www.squarepegtoys.com/shop/mega-…
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@ 33 - If someone ever tells me he wants to put that thing up my ass, I'm out of there in 5 seconds flat. It looks like it came out of some cheesy 60s sci-fi monster movie.
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@28: Yes. It's very hard for people to figure out who you can't trust, and who you can't trust yourself around. The idea that this person can fool you is a hard one to learn.
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@ 35 - Speaking from (unfortunately repeated) personal experience : absolutely.

Luckily, I've learned it now.
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LW1, only now you feel like cheating. Patient man.
Technically.. If you go and find yourself a lover, how is that cheating? The guy you live with is not your sexual partner, he gave that up a couple of years ago.
Position is vacant.
I suggest you break up with him. Because once you find a lover, you may feel like having a full life with that man.. And think of all the drama you'll avoid? Good clean breakup.
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"If your boyfriend can't see that, if he insists that your relationship remain monogamous and sexless (wouldn't that technically mean he's the only person you don't have sex with?), give breaking up another try. The third time might be the charm."
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That is exactly what happened to me in my marriage. Leaving him was the best thing I ever did. DTMFA.
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@33 EricaP: Wow----! Now there's a new twist on the term square pegs---I often felt like one in high school (just the the old 80's TV series with Helen Hunt and Sarah Jessica Parker, in "Square Pegs")! I agree---I wouldn't want one as a butt plug, either.
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Q from the straight gallery: is there something about DERPES'[*] friend's letter that reads as particularly risky? Just the fact that a friend has MM sex doesn't trigger a lecture, does it? I'd keep my mouth shut but maybe I'm missing something.

No, your friend doesn't want helpful refractory period advice.

As other people said, the recognizability seems like the actual thing here.

[*] signoff wtf?
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@41 I was confused, too. Does she lecture all her MM-inclined friends about ~safe sex~? Or maybe this is the only one she has.
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I guess the "your mom or boss could see this" is an issue but that doesn't seem to be her main concern in the letter. (And still seems pretty awkward to bring up.)
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DERPES should offer to come along and give her friend advice on wrestling moves, washing his ass beforehand, lube application, masturbation techniques, HIV prevention, and anything else that she as a het female obviously knows way more about than he does. Or she could remember that he's an adult (did you forget that part, Dan?) and mind her own fucking business. If he's really that easily identifiable from his ad then that's pretty much the only thing she's in a position to offer unsolicited advice on.

CHEAT: There's a word for someone you live with but don't have sex with: roommate. And there's a word for someone who wants to cheat on their sexless, childless, terminal illnessless relationship: chickenshit. Time to grow up and DTMFA.
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Sean @29: "Monotonous" doesn't suggest no sex so much as boring sex. As in, "I'm in a same sex marriage, we have the same sex every time." :) A sexless relationship with a ban on sexing others -- "Nonogamous"?
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Ms Fan - Not bad.
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Mx Wanna - If you have another hundred-comment-generating fashion question, this would seem to be the thread for it. My Repeat Complimenter got the last column of this sort over the century mark. The only thing that comes to my mind is to wonder when a fascinator became a hat instead of a shawl.
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@33: Pretty sure they chose the 'Square Peg' name to be amusing/ironic. (I thought it was a great name for a dildo company, but then again, my sense of humor is a little warped).

@34: Personally, I wouldn't go near that thing either! I recommended the much smaller (and far less scary) 'egg plug.'
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@ 45 - But can you deny that no sex would most certainly make for a monotonous relationship?
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I don't remember a fascinator ever being a shawl, Venn.
Yes. Questions a little on the light side this week. Probably because it's Dan's B'day, and he has party preparations..
I agree with you Chase. The Craigslist lady, is a bit on the interfering side. How will this young man take her comments? I'd not mention any of it to him. His business. Maybe she is just really bored with her own life. Maybe she secretly fancies this young man, and seeing pictures of his nakedness has just got her so hot, she's looking for excuses to talk dick pics with him.
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@ 51 - "seeing pictures of his nakedness has just got her so hot, she's looking for excuses to talk dick pics with him"

Brilliant analysis.
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Ricardo @50: Yes, I deny that. No sex would make for no relationship!
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Hunter @54: If both parties were happy with not having sex, they might not find it monotonous.
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@ 53 - You've just divorced half of married humanity in one fell swoop.
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We've been through this before, haven't we? It's 2%. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexless_ma…
Anyway, we shall have to differ on this one. I'm sure there are asexuals who are living happy, sex-free lives that they don't consider monotonous at all, and kinky folk married to vanilla ones who are shagging several times a week and bored silly.
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Lava @51: Yes, questions a bit on the light side.
I did want to put in my two cents on Dan's response to DERPES including the following: And speaking from experience, getting fucked right after you come sounds sexy in theory, but it's not much fun in reality. So I hope you're taking a refractory-period-length break—maybe for ice cream?—before the loser gets fucked.

Speaking from experience? DERPES is female, so, actually, she has no experience of a male refractory period. Lots of us vagina havers can come and keep right on coming, perhaps taking only a minute or two to catch our breaths. So I'd refrain from trying to give this gay man advice on gay male sex. "Speaking from Dan Savage's experience..." perhaps.
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@56: "You've just divorced half of married humanity in one fell swoop."

Wait... how did she get married to all those people in the first place?

Either way, I can't imagine she regrets any of those billions of divorces. Seems like that was the only way out.
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Eud @59: Indeed, I only had time to have sex with half of them, and the other half were getting cross! :)
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Notgonnalastforlongamous?
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@ 57 - When someone pulls a figure as huge as "half of married humanity" out of his ass, he is either delusional, or joking.

You decide which I am.
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@60: Divorce was really the only way to go. I mean, I hear that being in even one sexless marriage is pretty exhausting.
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Ricardo @62: "Half of married humanity" was the figure Dan threw out there, no doubt jokingly but still, it reinforced a very sad and sexist stereotype (the context was, if not getting any sex from their wives turned men gay, half of men would be gay). And here it comes again. Sorry for sense of humour fail, but I do find that stereotype offensive, as a cis woman who enjoys sex. With men. A lot.

Suffice to say, if I was in a relationship with no sex, I wouldn't call it monotonous, I'd call it over!
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@ 51 - "seeing pictures of his nakedness has just got her so hot, she's looking for excuses to talk dick pics with him"

Ha! I agree with Ricardo, you probably nailed it.
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truck @ 18
The spray fits neatly under the sink ever since.

Lava- the ambassador is on it’s way back.

BiDanFan @ 19
Reasonable intoxication is welcome, hopefully with someone you know and trust.
I was referring to a potentially traumatic event one can experience in the beginning of their anal sex career.

BiDanFan @ 58
And I would also challenge Dan’s ass-sesment as a penis haver. I’m much more relaxed after coming, which allows me to experience a smoother anal penetration.
Not right away though, please give me few minutes.

Venn- Once Lava and/or BiDanFan give me a color and/or style/s I’ll do my share to increase the fairly low ratings so far.

“Ricardo” is still in the process of being defined.

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cockyballsup @ 66 was spying on my computer and rushed to publish my opinions before I managed to do so.
And his last line is what I originally meant when I first wrote "going Ricardo."

cockyballsup may possess the mind-controlling powers otherwise associated with our friend Dr. Aisabu.
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@BiDanFan: I do find that stereotype offensive, as a cis woman who enjoys sex. With men. A lot.

Presumably you don't find science offensive? From the NYT:
Researchers have set its [lack of interest in sex with one's partner] prevalence among women between the ages of about 20 and 60 at between 10 and 15 percent. When you count the women who don’t quite meet the elaborate clinical threshold, the rate rises to around 30 percent.

This problem has caused lots of pain for lots of people, including plenty of folks here. It's insensitive to dismiss it as a stereotype simply because you don't have any direct experience with it. Well, at least not yet:

His surveys, involving a total of almost 2,500 subjects, comprise one of the few systematic comparisons of female and male desire at progressive stages of committed relationships. He shows women and men in new relationships reporting, on average, more or less equal lust for each other. But for women who’ve been with their partners between one and four years, a dive begins — and continues, leaving male desire far higher. (Within this plunge, there is a notable pattern: over time, women who don’t live with their partners retain their desire much more than women who do.)
Lesbian couples seem to fare no better, and maybe worse, in keeping their sexual ardor for each other.
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Ms Lava - Miss Marple wore one in A Caribbean Mystery.
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Ugh, CHEAT.

Open relationships and ethical cheating seem to have replaced "get knocked up" in the top position of desperate attempts to resuscitate a dead relationship. Dan's penchant for promoting both seems to attract letter writers that just can't let go when shit is long past over.

If someone doesn't give a shit about your sexual needs, that person does not care enough about you for the relationship to be otherwise good. You just fear change irrationally. Just DUMP him, already. It seems scary now, but I promise you'll feel better once you get over it.
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@3 seandr: Your comment to DERPES made me ponder my own sexual anxieties.
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@69 seandr: I wonder in what percentage I fit within your shared NYT data?
I am currently seeking service-connected PTSD & grief counseling through the VA,
the latter over the recent loss of both my beloved parents.
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@ 69, it's not offensive but a bit annoying to frequently be told that so many women lose interest in sex, or at least interest in sex with their long-term partner, that it's just a matter of time until I do (as you imply). I'm 21 years in living with my husband and I find him hotter than ever, and I thought our sex life was good before! Maybe it's unrealistic to expect this to still be the case in 10 or twenty years but I try not to plan for failure.
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@ 64 - OK, I hadn't thought about Dan's figure - which, when I read it, I thought Dan had pulled out of his ass, just as I did in this case. You know us gays: we're such drama queens, everything has to be exaggerated and over the top. Like this last sentence.

But please don't take it any of this personally if you don't belong to the group of people who lose sexual interest. We're not talking about you, we're talking about the people who do.

And just to clarify, I wasn't reproducing any stereotype, as I didn't lay the blame on either sex. First, because my knowledge of women who don't want sex is based 100% on hearsay (although sometimes they themselves were the ones who said it). Also, I've had a couple of BFs who bait-and-switched on me, not in frequency, but in the kind of sex: as soon as they thought that I was too deep into the relationship to just break it off, the sex became very vanilla, and I ended up, as you so eloquently put it earlier, a kinky person who was shagging several times a week but who was bored silly. Unfortunately for them, they underestimated my capacity to say "it's over."
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Dwag, this is the 90s, there is no such thing as "implicit promises".

Anyhow, CHEAT, like the LW from a few days ago, I'm sure the BF will decline, worried about the STD he presumably can't catch because he's presumably not having sex with you.

I strongly suspect LW is having regular sex with BF, just not the amount of sex he desires.
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The best way to learn how to relax your butt is to practice on your own, with toys. Use plenty of lube, get a dildo that looks interesting but possible, and practice in private, so that you can control the speed, take breaks, and learn without anxiety. Over time, increase the size of the toys - and eventually you will be able to handle any man you encounter.

And you will find that your hemorrhoids ether stop acting up or rarely act up - they're caused by clenching your butthole, so learning to unclench is theraputic. While they're still with you, though, try soaking your butt in hot water (very hot but not hot enough to scald you) for 20 min morning and evening. If you can't soak it, but have a hose in the shower, a steady stream of very hot water does the same.

Lidocaine and the like are counter-productive, they irritate the skin and there's a pain bounce-back when they wear off. Soaking in hot water is miraculous for hemorrhoids.

These are basic things that should be taught in sex-ed courses - our schools are failing our teenagers!
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Yes Chase and Ricardo.. If you turn the sex on the LW, it would be the first thought, I'd suspect. Do women flash pics of their pussies on these sites? and if they do and a man wrote this letter we'd all go.. Excuse me mate, you are one pervert.
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CMD. The Ambassador for what? And you've recalled him, not much faith in his ability to do whatever he is trained to do.
Did he had some nice dope on him? I'm very in the mood for going Ricardo.
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Sean @69: This problem has caused lots of pain for lots of people, including plenty of folks here. It's insensitive to dismiss it as a stereotype simply because you don't have any direct experience with it.

That is not what I am doing. In fact, quite the opposite. I am opposed to the stereotype being presented as something that is acceptable and normal precisely BECAUSE it causes so much pain in relationships, particularly OS ones. In the original letter, a teenage girl was being jokingly told that half of all women in marriages will decide to stop having sex with their husbands. What a horrible thing to tell a young woman. Unilaterally deciding to stop having sex with one's spouse is NOT normal, NOT acceptable, and NOT a fucking joke. And every time someone refers to "half of marriages are like this", it further spreads the damage. Women, and men, take a marriage vow that includes the words "to have and to hold" which can be interpreted as "I promise to give you at least some level of maintenance sex." A marriage is a sexual relationship, as well as an emotional one. To laugh it off and say "this is normal" is insulting to men, to women, and to marriage.
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Ms Fan - I'm actually not sure whether one-gendre lost interest is HSE for me or not.

Is anyone saying the stereotype is both acceptable and normal? It certainly doesn't seem acceptable to Dr Sean, however normal he thinks it, although "common" might be more accurate. After that, I agree with you until the sentence beginning "Women" where I have a serious quarrel. One really can't play the Marriage Vows card. Usually one sees this with Forsaking All Others, but it doesn't work any better with THATH. (I recall your own wedding and the aisle walk, for which I gave you credit, and not just because you were giving the lie to somebody else's playing a different All Weddings Are... card.)
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Sean, the study I saw said the same. That women living seperately from their partner, maintained stronger desire. Guess the question is why? My intuitive answer is expectation. A woman as wife and mother can so easily just fall into the role of being available to others, IMO .
Or rather, my experience.
I lived seperately from my husband for 20 yrs out of a 30 yr relationship. I liked that I had my own space.
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Venn @81: I am referring to the stereotypical situation, which I admit does exist (stereotypes arise from somewhere, blah blah). In the (stereo)typical case, it's a traditional male-female monogamous marriage and it's the wife who decides she doesn't want to have sex anymore; this is the situation Sean is referring to as being common. We discussed at length that sometimes the wife goes off sex because the husband has no consideration whatsoever for her needs (I recall one particularly tragic example where the man insisted on telling his wife that he was fantasising about other women while fucking her, and causing her pain... charming). On other occasions, her sex drive just falls due to kids or ageing, and the subsequent arguments just serve to kill her desire even more.

Regardless, apologies, and I regret that Ricardo's repeat of the old tired joke has steered us so firmly back into OS territory during Gay Week. Back to rainbow flags and butt plugs, shall we? :)
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Busy; the study Sean referenced said 30%. You probably in the other 70%, so you don't need to anticipate any change.
You guys sound like you take good care of each other sexually. Maybe the NZ air helps. God that is one beautiful country.
I went across on the ferry, just a few yrs after the Wahini( is that right?), sunk.
It was one rough rough rough crossing. We all thought we were going to die.
When I returned to Sydney, and I lived on the river so i could catch a ferry across the harbour.. If a little bit of wave action, I'd start to panic.
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To clarify for others. I went from one Island in NZ to the other on a ferry, not from Australia to NZ on a ferry.
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@33 EricaP

Because what a dildo needs is teeth. Yikes!

CHEAT:
It doesn't get better. Move on. Live an honest life.
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CMD. How about grey and pink, they are great together.
I never had girlfriends I yalked fashion with, so I'm a little perplexed how to proceed. I used to love wearing Jodpurs,
Great fashion pants/ imo/ as well as riding pants. There's an idea,some girls love riding horses.
If you really want to inhabit your XX chromosomes, spend ten minutes before dressing in meditation, so you can access her, biologically. Then just pick your clothes. Trust your feminine intuition!
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So that's either talked or yaked. Multiple choice.
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No, that's just one X for you, CMD.
Mistakes, must be tired.
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@ 83 - I absolutely did not repeat the old tired joke, as you say. You made that connection. You gave it a sexist slant (where did I mention anything about gender?). You're the one who insists on seeing a stereotype where there wasn't any.

I just made a silly joke. You are being delusional. Stop lying about what I said, you're losing all your credibility.
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@74
Glad to read that you are still caring about your partner! I hate unasked-for advice BUT since I am much older than you, I cannot help myself today. Sooo...a few tips on how to keep the attraction if you want to. Simply avoid these things:
On "date night" always bathe and put on something sweet smelling
Don't get into the "open-door" policy when using the bathroom
Don't start calling your man "Grampa" . Use his REAL first name like when you were dating.
Don't criticize what he orders in a restaurant
Don't tell him where to park when he takes you to a movie or to a restaurant.
Good luck, and I mean that sincerely!
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Genitalia wars seem to be back by unpopular demand. They involve some great, smart people.
Some times the different gender/orientation takes on a situation add to the conversation and give us a different perspective. On some other occasions they tend to develop into endless, and often useless, vagina and penis pointing.

What will those latest skirmishes bring us this week?
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Lava @ 79
“Recalling the ambassador for consultations” is a diplomatic term and a move to show some tension between nations.
Once the differences have been settled the ambassador goes back.
So yes, she’s on her way back to Canberra as we speak. Due to a designated stop in Indonesia we decided that having her deliver some stuff to our friend in Queensland might be a bit too risky.

There will be meditation, thanks for the advice, my feminine intuition has been trusted for years.

BDF can also chime in if she’s not too busy.
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Ricardo @90: I am not being delusional. Over-sensitive, perhaps. You said @56 that half of married humanity (SS or OS, applies to all marriages) aren't getting sex. Ha ha, funny! Okay, you tell Sean how funny it is. Anyway, I am trying my best to drop it, so consider it dropped.

Hunter @91: The circumstances are different. Well, maybe they are not. In my example, the man persistently told his wife during sex about all the fantasies he was having about other women. In the case of the bi woman... well, I guess we don't know the circumstances. The letter implied that it was during a conversation they had about sex, not during the sex, and there was no clue as to who prompted it. I agree, if the woman insisted on describing in detail her fantasies, knowing that it hurt to hear them, then she is an abusive asshole as well. And no, men aren't always in the wrong, women aren't always in the right, please don't confuse me with Eudaemonic.

Anyway, I suppose the lesson here is that I should stop trying to advocate for straight people, or married people, of which I am neither.

On to CMD @94! I admit I'm not as proactive at suggesting colour schemes as Lava, since, being a goth, they'd kind of always be "how about black?" Pink and grey sounds like a nice scheme. How about a pink fluffy jumper (sweater), and a grey wool skirt? That would suit the autumn temperatures. Greyish stockings with seams down the back and patent pumps. Gosh, I'm putting so much more creativity into your wardrobe than my own!
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@ 95 At least now I know what's your red button issue. I'll try not to push that button again when you're around.
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@95 Fan.. Me too. It's like, CMD really thinks about what to wear?
Only, only if I'm on a night out, does that happen. Even apply eyeliner.
A Goth, Eh? Interesting.
It's a hard one Fan.. This story happening to many women, and by implication, their men. It is an important area to look into. Your Bite is important, as it shows.. As we other women here do too.. That it isn't inevitable.
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Funny Ricardo. How you going to know when Fan is around. I did lapse last night and went Ricardo. Hoping my spring/ summer hit the ocean plan can help to counteract the effects of my sins.
Or some of them.
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I think Dan summarized it best when he once asked who the fuck wired men and women to be sexually incompatible.
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Ms Fan - I wasn't complaining about your making it OS, which seemed reasonable given the OS turn the discussion had taken, as led by Mr Savage. Weddings are just all so special-snowflaky that it doesn't seem possible to universalize anything about them beyond the willingness of the couple to be considered an entity.
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Lava and
BiDanFan
Yes, I touched about the dress up subject in one of my late posts last week. For me going out in public as a woman is still very celebratory, exciting and liberating. A big production indeed, yet labor of love.
Things could have been quite different when dealing with a daily routine.

Thanks for going along with me. Inspired by the latest peaceful resolutions I hereby declare that I’ll refrain from dragging you into the subject again unless something special comes up- date of some sort, dinner party, etc.
And yes, of course “dragging” was totally accidental.
Rest assured, no bad feelings whatsoever. I still enjoy playing dress up on my own.
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CMD, I'm fine to come along for the ride.
It is enlightening to experience your process. Makes me focus more on how and where I feel like a woman.
And boys are lucky in a way. They have the male and female in them, because they the ones who determine the sex of offspring.
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DERPES (first and last time I'm ever typing that): set up a new email, easy to do, then email them saying you are a co-worker who is concerned with both their safety and their anonymity. Done and done.
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@82 Lava - I think there is also something to be said for having the time and private space for anticipation to build and for fantasies or memories to roll around in the mind. I think you've alluded to this before, actually. I won't generalize based on gender, but I know for me, after the infatuation stage has passed, I become less easily aroused by the mere sight of my partner, even if I still find him extremely sexually attractive. But if he sexted me from another room, explicitly mentioning things or memories that turn me on, in a way that turns me on, my brain will run with that and the desire will rapidly escalate.

I'm sure there are many, many reasons that lust remains higher when living separately. Just thought I'd mention one of the less obvious reasons.
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I have posited that there are inherent advantages to SS relationships compared to OS, and vice versa, but trust that most people who pay attention will know which ideas are mine and which are merely attributed to me by others.

I attribute the (comparative, I suppose) paucity of posts to how SS-focused (though I think L2 is really only SS-related) letters are more easily HSE for a large number of posters. Triple digits by Saturday morning doesn't seem too bad.
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@105
Catty and Lava. I posed this topic to Miss N last night (distance enhancing desire and happiness) (BTW my brother is living this with his wife in Dee-troit while he lives in Milwaukee) I also mentioned the "fantasy" topic from last week's letters. I told her that my take on the whole "familiarity kills desire" trope was that women seem to want it both ways. They want to be pursued and desired and wooed, but also insist upon %100 control. They want to see their man throw himself at her, and then be able to simply ignore him. I pointed out to miss N. that when I read her Sandra Brown books back in the 90's the men basically raped the heroine, but as the rape occurred, our heroine suddenly decided that she WANTED to be ravished. Indeed from her perspective she was ravishing HIM.
Miss N:.."Yes! because she was turned on!:.... she welcomed his advances"
Me: "How the hell would he know whether she was turned on? Once he is aroused he is not thinking rationally the whole action is now driven by his "small head".
Miss N:.."No! he could read her cues. He KNEW she wanted to be ravished"
Me: "That is crazy. Nobody has ESP, nobody can read anything in another person's mind. People have to actually speak to one another"
Miss N. "You are simply an ignorant, clueless man. You do not understand women"
Well she is right about that!
sigh. Another date night shot in the ass.
I took 5 mg of zyrtec to counteract the damn 25 mg of generic Viagra, then mixed up a martini for a nightcap. (5 olives too, by god)
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@107 sb53 - I think everyone wants to feel desired and most people prefer to feel they have some control.

How about suspending date night temporarily to try something else? For many people, it's hard to get aroused for scheduled sex. While I don't appreciate the way she spoke to you, there is a lot of helpful info for you in what she said. She seems to appreciate the concept of first be turned on and then feeling like she is part of the seduction, not just a reactive party to advances. I think that dynamic may be hard to achieve on a scheduled date night. If it must be scheduled due to Viagra use, perhaps you could start the turning on part hours earlier with a note or a text, something related to 1) your desire for her, and 2) something that you know turns her on, whether a sex act or an experience you shared or a fantasy she has expressed.

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