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Apr 3 MiscKitty commented on Chelsea Manning Joined Twitter This Morning.
@ 12 - People like William Shakespeare, James Joyce, and Mark Twain?
Mar 6 MiscKitty commented on Frequent Fox News Guest: Islamic Radicals Support Gay Rights (Cannibalism Too).
@ 7 - The fact that you haven't seen him doesn't mean he hasn't been on Fox repeatedly. Here's the citation Right Wing Watch provides for their claim (which Dan quoted) that he is a frequent guest:

http://mediamatters.org/search/index?qst…
Feb 24 MiscKitty commented on Savage Love.
Hope you feel better soon, Dan.
Feb 10 MiscKitty commented on Florida Representative Wants to Throw Trans People in Prison for Using Public Toilets.
@ 28 - And some women have an issue sharing facilities with other groups of minorities. But those bigots don't get special laws to coddle them so anti-trans* bigots shouldn't, either. We should treat all bigots equally.
Feb 9 MiscKitty commented on Florida Representative Wants to Throw Trans People in Prison for Using Public Toilets.
@ 11 - Trans* women are women. Therefore, they should use the restroom designated for women. It really is that simple.

And what "price" do you think we pay for trans* women using women's restrooms? I mean, I get that our lines are usually longer. And trans* women using women's restrooms would lengthen the lines, albeit a statistically insignificant amount. But calling that a "price" strikes me as awfully melodramatic.
Jan 23 MiscKitty commented on The Morning News: Sorry This Is Half-Assed, I Overslept.
@ George -

"Doesn't your argument hinge on the provider of the egg and the provider of the sperm having no culpability for the creation of that human...?"


No, it does not. Again I will direct you to our existing laws: it is not illegal for a father to refuse to give his daughter one of his kidneys. And there are no anti-choice advocates lobbying to change that.

"By that argument, why are they any less culpable for walking away from the child at six months or 2 years old because the need to care for the welfare of that child is some severe... sacrifice on behalf of the parent?"


Regarding very young children, safe-haven laws in many states do exactly that: they absolve the parent of responsibility. This prevents unwanted newborns from being left to die in trashcans, so I would hope you would be in favor of it.

Where older children are concerned, your argument seems even more ingenuous. If anti-choice advocates were legitimately concerned for the well-being of older children and the legal enforcement of parental culpability, they would lobby to imprison parents who kick their children out onto the streets for being LGBT. 40% of homeless youth are LGBT (1). But anti-choice advocates are not fighting against often-fatal (2) homelessness for LGBT children.

"or even life threatening (say defending the child from attack)"


It is not illegal to fail to defend your child's life. And in some cases, no action is taken if you are directly responsible for your child's violent death. Gun owners are not prosecuted when their negligence directly results in the death of their child. Shouldn't anti-choice groups protest a lack of an indictment every time the negligence of a parent results in the shooting death of a toddler? But they don't. There is no "keep an aspirin between your knees" style admonishment for gun owners.

"Does that not turn the traditional view of pro-creation as being for caring for and nurturing the child, to the gratification and welfare of the parent or parents?"

Out of respect for your civility, I will not post Bible verses to establish the "traditional" view of procreation and care of the resulting children. Instead, I will keep the focus of my response more recent: Prior to the Case of Mary Ellen in 1874, child abuse had never been prosecuted in the United States (3). And child labor was not ended in the United States until the Fair Labor Standards Act (4) was signed into law by FDR. Children as something other than "tiny adults" is a progressive notion when viewed in a historical context.

There is an additional legal issue with your belief that abortion should be illegal on the basis of fetal personhood: it is not illegal for a parent to fatally wound his or her child in self defense. If a man has a gun and plans to murder his mother, she is allowed to defend herself. Banning abortion would prevent her from defending herself against a fetus that will, if carried to term, murder her. This is the reality of abortion bans: even if medical exceptions are written into the law, women are denied lifesaving care. The death of Savita Halappanavar (5) is a widely publicized example of this fact.

And that leads me to a final, unavoidable point. Even though you made it clear that you don't want to discuss women within the context of the abortion debate, it is a debate that must include women because the reality of the situation demands it: when abortion is illegal, women die. And sex should not be a capitol offense.

(1) http://nationalhomeless.org/issues/lgbt/

(2) https://www.dosomething.org/facts/11-fac…

(3) http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/15/health…

(4) http://www.dol.gov/whd/flsa/

(5) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Sa…
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Jan 22 MiscKitty commented on The Morning News: Sorry This Is Half-Assed, I Overslept.
@ georgeingeorgetown - For just a moment, let's set aside the science regarding fetal development and pretend that "humanhood" begins at conception. Unless you grant special rights to the fetus, abortion should still be legal. Here's why:

20 out of every 100,000 live kidney donors die during the operation. (1)

18.5 out of every 100,000 mothers die during childbirth. (2)

I assume most anti-choice proponents believe kidney patients have souls. But there is no political movement in this country in support of forced kidney donations despite the inevitable deaths of kidney patients in the absence of a donor. Our laws treat the life of the potential kidney donor and the life of the potential kidney recipient as equally valuable - we do not force the former to risk his or her life for the benefit of the latter. Roe v. Wade establishes that the life of a pregnant woman and the life of a potential kidney donor are of equal value.

Banning abortion does not sanctify the "humanhood" of the fetus. It reduces the pregnant woman to "chattel."

(1) http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/yo…

(2) http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/mate…
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Jan 21 MiscKitty commented on Savage Love.
@ 11 - I tried a Google search for "vore sex toys" and while I think I found what @7 was talking about (first and second hits - a Cracked article and a furry website) I'm not certain if the person who was sculpting them is still selling them:

https://www.sofurry.com/view/621166

That said, the comments were potentially instructive. LW might want to try using a sleeping bag as a sex toy.
Dec 20, 2014 MiscKitty commented on Savage Love.
@ Old Crow - Sources, plzkthx.
Dec 19, 2014 MiscKitty commented on Savage Love.
@ 104 -

"οἰκέται (household slaves), in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh."
1 Peter 2:18

"δοῦλοι (slaves), obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ."
Ephesians 6:5

"All who are under the yoke as δοῦλοι (slaves) should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that God's name and our teaching may not be slandered."
1 Timothy 6:1

"The δοῦλος (slave) who knows the master's will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked."
Luke 12:47-48

"Masters, provide your δούλοις (slaves) with what is right and fair, because you know that you also have a Master in heaven."
Colossians 4:1
 

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