11:13 PM yesterday
Lissa commented on
Bigot Florist Files Countersuit.
Oh SB, SB. Kick and fuss and use vile slurs. You're done. You've lost. Marriage equality is a fact in this state, and day by day, becoming the law in more and more states, and more and more countries around the world. The nice part of me feels sorry for you, but the not so nice part of me really kind of hopes you get busted for breaking the law by discriminating against gays and lesbians and in the ensuing legal battle lose everything you own. Except your delusion of righteousness and tin foil hat. I hope you get to keep those. Because that would be funny.
10:27 PM yesterday
Lissa commented on
Wedding Crasher.
This makes me so happy. It sounds like a lovely wedding for two lovely men.
10:16 PM yesterday
Lissa commented on
It's Spring! Who's Ready for Street Harassment?.
Clara T:
Quote 1and 6 were made by men. 6 by Unbrainwashed who may just have been projecting. I am the source of quote 4, and I stand by it. Many men do think that they know better than women what we go through every day. But note! I said many, not all, because I agree with you. Tarring all men with the same brush is unfair. But indeed, those men of good will need to do more than just rest on their laurels. Standing by and saying nothing, either in life or on line reinforces in the mind of those men who are cat calling and what have you, the idea that what they are doing is ok.
I think the heathen @ 136 put it well:
If your friend behaves like this, and you don’t smack him in the back of the head and tell him he’s being a douche, you’re a douche by proxy.
The fact that so many men have participated in this thread and with the exception of of only The Misanthrope and Unbrainwashed have been nether douches nor douches by proxy, is so heartening don't you think? It certainly gives me hope.
6:26 PM yesterday
Lissa commented on
It's Spring! Who's Ready for Street Harassment?.
@207: Oh yeah, The M won't be listening to the substance of your post. He'll focus on the fact that he personally is gay, sooooo everything you've said is irrelevant. Oh and he'll probably call you some names, and then Unbrainwashed will back him up by asking you about your tits. Good times.
@208: I don't know? The picture is on my phone, and I haven't gotten it on to my computer yet, so I'm not sure how to post it here. Sorry. But thanks for asking! It was at the the show they did for gay marriage with Dan at the Neptune. We got to see The Tech Savvy At Risk Youth too.
11:55 AM yesterday
Lissa commented on
It's Spring! Who's Ready for Street Harassment?.
@195: I'm assuming you must have glaucoma since you manage to miss entire sections of what people write, so in answer to your accusation that I discounted you experience I'll just post what I actually wrote here again. In bold so you can see it despite your handicap.
You have gotten almost 200 posts of push back not because we don't know and care that men are harassed, not because we think you've never been attacked as a gay man, not even because we think the way you've handled those occurrences in you own life incorrectly. Good for you that have a way that works for you!
See? Not discounting your experience. You're not wrong about your're experience and you are not wrong in how you chose to handle those incidents in which you were threatened or harassed.
You are wrong in insisting that your experience and perspective is the one true experience and perspective.
YOU DON'T GET TO DECIDE FOR ALL THE WOMEN HERE WHAT IS OR IS NOT STREET HARASSMENT .
And I did not "barely or begrudgingly admit" that I disapprove of men getting cat called. That's you spinning what I said to fit your fantasy that I'm a misandrist. Again, in bold so you don't miss it, And I'll be super clear and use small words to cut down on the chance you might misinterpret what I'm about to say:
Cat calling is wrong no matter which gender is doing the cat calling and which gender is on the the receiving end.
I also personally believe, as you well know from another very long argument that you and I have had, that gendered slurs are wrong against men as well as women.
I don't think asshole is a gendered slur because it is not gender specific.
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10:08 AM yesterday
Lissa commented on
Trolololol.
After the last few day at war to the knife with The Misanthrope over on the street harassment thread, I reeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaalllllllyyyyyyy needed to hear this. My poor husband spent last night trying to get me to sleep by repeating over and over,
"Everyone on that thread agrees with you. No one agrees with him." LOL
But yeah, he's a person. A deeply unpleasant person on line, but a person none the less, so thank you for helping me remember that.
May 18
Lissa commented on
It's Spring! Who's Ready for Street Harassment?.
No.
Again you miss the point. You don't get to tell women what is or is not harassment. That's it. Full stop. You have gotten almost 200 posts of push back not because we don't know and care that men are harassed, not because we think you've never been attacked as a gay man, not even because we think the way you've handled those occurrences in you own life incorrectly. Good for you that have a way that works for you!
With one exception all these people, men and women, are telling you one thing and one thing only.
You do not get to tell me, or Cienna, or Eva, orTVDinner, another long winded nerd, sandiai, superjivus, or any other woman that has posted about street harassment here that our experience doesn't count.
You. Are. Wrong.
Street harassment of women is real. It is a tool used to keep women in their place through random implicit threat of violence. You don't think "nice tits" count. You don't get to decide that.
We do.