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8:43 PM yesterday Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn commented on It's a Beautiful Day for a Protest.
@75

So your A team is OneSeattle, and they're made of up people like Bob Donegan, who are either too dumb, or too defeatist, to see that labor's poll was biased? It's not looking good for you guys is you're the only one smart enough to see what's what. How come nobody else at OneSeattle said, "Relax, Bob. That labor poll is biased!"

OR! Maybe you're not the lone genius, and they're at least as smart as you. Perhaps smarter, given your inability to cite facts to support your predictions. And they knew Bob wasn't talking abuot labor's poll. Labor's poll said 68%. OneSeattle's poll, the one Bob was quoting, the one nobody at OneSeattle took issue with, said 70%.

Oh, hey, there's about 100,000 workers in Seattle who could afford to shop somewhere besides Walmart and Amazon if somebody would give them a raise. The really shitty part: If poor workers did piss away their meager funds at high-priced bullshit boutiques like Elliott Bay Books or Liberty or a Tom Douglas restaurant, then you paternalistic fucks would be telling them it's their fault for being poor because they don't economize. Fuck you.

You want trust fund baby customers for your hipster boutique put an ad in Vice. Real people shop at Costco.
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5:10 PM yesterday Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn commented on It's a Beautiful Day for a Protest.
@72

Just to repeat for the 20th time, because Boswell is stubborn:

You could have remained in denial about the labor-backed poll until Dominic Holden got ahold of leaked email from OneSeattle, where the CEO of Ivars Bob Donegan admit that their own secret polls agreed, and moreover, their number was 70%.

This is the bunker mentality that had Mitt Romney denying every poll and deluding himself into thinking he was going to beat Obama in a landslide.
5:04 PM yesterday Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn commented on It's a Beautiful Day for a Protest.
@68

You're the one that called them smart. Now you call them merely educated? Sounds like you're in denial here, because you keep squirming around trying to make reality fit the fixed idea in your head.

But if they're educated then they are aware of the facts. They know stuff. Stuff like the major points of dispute in the minimum wage debate that has been raging daily in their city and across the country, particularly for the last year.

But now you're going to educate them more? Whatever bombshell you're going to lay on Seattle, it better be a doozy. By the looks of things, they've heard it before.
3:38 PM yesterday Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn commented on Stand Your Ground Laws Prevent Gun Deaths in Upside-Down World.
Here's that quote again:
Agree that the inverted y can be confusing & perhaps too misleading in this case.


It doesn't say, "perhaps misleading". She's allowing that it's maybe too misleading.

Reuters wants to mislead you with their graphs, but only up to a point. They don't want to jump the shark. Misleading, but not too misleading. They're professionals, after all. And if you go Full LaPierre people will suspect.
3:16 PM yesterday Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn commented on Oklahoma Strips Cities of the Right to Pass Higher Wages, Sick Leave.
@14

I'm thinking he's trying to sabotage his own reputation by being the biggest dick he can, so when his joint fails he can pretend it was all political and not his own fuckup.

I mean how many of these "job creators" bleating about personal responsibility walk the walk? All you ever hear from those guys is how everything is somebody else's fault.
1:16 PM yesterday Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn commented on Oklahoma Strips Cities of the Right to Pass Higher Wages, Sick Leave.
@8

A three year phase in period for small businesses under 250 employees was not part of 15Now's original proposal. Do you know what allowed 15Now to accept that concession?

Flexibility, fucknuts. Or fuckstick. Which do you go by? Fucking fuck was cool back in the day. You should bring it back.
10:45 AM yesterday Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn commented on Stand Your Ground Laws Prevent Gun Deaths in Upside-Down World.
From C. Chan, the author of the chart:

Christine Chan @ChristineHHChan
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@kfury Thanks for raising this, I appreciate the feedback. Agree that the inverted y can be confusing & perhaps too misleading in this case.


Perhaps! Opinions differ! Teach the controversy.

And one billion facepalms were born...
10:35 AM yesterday Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn commented on Oklahoma Strips Cities of the Right to Pass Higher Wages, Sick Leave.
I always like to take the 'states rights' arguments these loons always spout when they want local autonomy from control in Washington DC, and bump those arguments up side by side with their top-down, authoritarian centralization of power they exercise from their red state capitol to keep their blue cities toeing the line.

The don't really believe what they say they believe. They just want the power to run things their way.
10:14 AM yesterday Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn commented on It's a Beautiful Day for a Protest.
@66

The question was, "Does anything pass by 68% in Seattle> [sic]". Then answer is, hell yes.

Sawant and Conlin ran a whole campaign discussing $15/hr before the voters of Seattle. Everyone said Sawant would lose once the voters got a chance to get a good look at her. How'd that work out? President Obama has put the minimum wage debate front and center for nearly as long. The minimum wage was one of the main reasons for MLK's March on Washington in 1963. Inequality has been in the headlines for years, particularly since the 2008 recession and Occupy. Here's Robert Reich explaining why the Federal, not just Seattle, minimum wage should be $15/hr.

The CEO of Iver's says, au contraire that the current support for $15 without exceptions is 70%. Bob Donegan there thinks the voters could be swayed, but that remains to be seen. Businesses keep getting caught lying, astroturfing, and revealing their contempt for workers. Or working as a front for huge corporations.

So Seattle voters are smart! Really? But these smart voters haven't noticed all the discussion of the minimum wage by Conlin, Sawant, Obama, Reich... oh, I forgot the Mayor, who was in Olympia for a decade, and also opposes businesses total compensation scheme. Murray is uninformed? Seattle voters still aren't aware of the debate over the minimum wage?

Either 1) Seattle voters are not that smart, or 2) They are smart, they've heard business and labor's arguments for years, and 70% have made their choice. Good luck with the astroturf PR. I think you'll need it.
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