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Wednesday, March 28, 2012

What the Funk? Seattle's Funk Community Hates Me (and Thinks I'm Racist, Too)

Posted by on Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:55 AM

It started with a joke in this piece about getting your music played on the radio:

Before you send anything, know who you're sending it to.
If you're a metal band, don't send your music to the hiphop show. If you're a funk band, don't send your music to a heavy metal radio station (also, don't be a funk band). It sounds like obvious advice, right? Nope. I've been hosting Locals Only, the Pacific Northwest music show, for years, and I often receive press packages from bands out of New York and California with clueless letters promising "the Locals Only audience will love us!" Not only is it a waste of time and money, but you look stupid.

First, I WAS KIDDING. It was a joke. Second, I do not like funk but that doesn't mean everyone who does should stop playing it. BECAUSE I WAS JOKING. But my anti-funk comment clearly hit members of the funk community right in the heart as the comments prove.

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The letters came via Facebook and e-mail, too. Some excerpts:

...first of all, as a veteran funkster on this scene, fuck you...what kind of snarky racist shit is that?..have you even fucking LISTENED to funk??..why NOT be a funk band?? What's your deal with suggesting to the seattle music scene not be in a band that is black music based?..i'm not mad at ya, sis, but i'm funky..i play the funk, the whole funk, nothin' but..there's quite a funky scene here in seattle...for all my fellow funksters out there,that's some insulting shit you dropped.. you need to apologize to the readers of this paper that do appreciate funk music...

And:

I'm fighting back some anger from that comment but will just say this: I won't pass up job opportunities, relationships and burn the candle at both ends for being dismissed. I moved to this city in 2000 to pursue music. The main band I'm in had to stop identifying as "funk" label because nobody in this music industry would even give us a chance. Funny how it's just accepted to dismiss and not given any thought of true artistic merit. It'd be great to be told that our music sucks, because then at least we know someone actually took the time to listen to it.

I didn't know that funk was such serious business.

UPDATE: Please see the post entitled "The Funk Megan Seling Challenge: Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is" here. —Ed.

 

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Baconcat 1
Funk you, Megan.
Posted by Baconcat on March 28, 2012 at 12:00 PM
Megan Seling 2
@1 In my head I read that comment that in Cee Lo's voice and added "Oooh ooh oooh"s at the end.
Posted by Megan Seling on March 28, 2012 at 12:06 PM
yos-wa 3
the second letter didn't have "funk" an adjective enough, like the first one did. i've taken the liberty of amending it for the original writer:

I'm fighting back some funk anger from that comment but will just say this: I won't pass up funky job opportunities, relationships and burn the funk candle at both ends for being dismissed. I moved to this funky city in 2000 to pursue funk music. The main band I'm in had to stop identifying as "funk" label because nobody in this music industry would even give us a funking chance. Funny how it's just accepted to dismiss and not given any thought of true artistic funk merit. It'd be great to be told that our music sucks, because then at least we know some funkster actually took the funk time to listen to it.

funk.
Posted by yos-wa on March 28, 2012 at 12:11 PM
cosby 4
That original comment really IS on some bullshit though. If you don't like or don't get something and dismiss it, you should be able to back it up with why. What if someone wrote "don't be a feminist" - would that be acceptable if it was a joke?

The correct way to make fun of music is to dismiss music that you actually like and fall back on it saying "no, I actually like blah-blah-blah, I was just poking fun at myself". You could've easily substituted "don't be a ska band" and it would've worked loads better. Also, no one would defend ska.
Posted by cosby http://www.myspace.com/cosbyshownights on March 28, 2012 at 12:27 PM
5
You should talk to Kevin(MAPC) about being outed as once playing in a funk band.. The twee kids were totally dismissing his indie pop cred. They don't realize that funk is so DIY!
Posted by saundrah on March 28, 2012 at 12:29 PM
6
the sea monster is literally the worst bar I've ever been to, all of the people there are a walking assumption of what it means to be alive. and the bands. really, don't go to the sea monster. ever. if you give a fuck about being a human being, just don't. go to the monkey pub or the canterbury and just listen to the jukebox.
Posted by noooooo on March 28, 2012 at 1:25 PM
sikandro 7
This is great.
Posted by sikandro on March 28, 2012 at 1:34 PM
8
Get a sense of humor, funk musicians!

Besides, anyone who reads that joke and imagines she's disparaging this when she's obviously thinking of this probably plays in the latter.
Posted by d.p. on March 28, 2012 at 1:39 PM
9
If you're Megan Seling, don't thoughtlessly piss people off (also, don't be Megan Seling).
Posted by dirge on March 28, 2012 at 1:41 PM
The_Shaved_Bear 10
Megan's comment stands. DON'T BE IN A FUNK BAND.
Actually, "DON'T BE IN A FLUNK BAND" is funnier.
Posted by The_Shaved_Bear on March 28, 2012 at 1:41 PM
11
"Veteran funkster" sounds funnny.
Posted by Chester Copperpot on March 28, 2012 at 1:50 PM
GlamB0t 12
I imagined "funksters" being a bit more laid back...
Posted by GlamB0t on March 28, 2012 at 1:56 PM
13
welcome to the club, Megan

Funk is generally really awful. Much like ska or reggae, it seems to be built upon a few mechanical pieces. There seems to be room for 1 or 2 groups to do these things well, and massive numbers of increasingly shitty 3rd and 4th generation copies. If you are in a funk band chances are you are a crime against music.

I appreciated Bible of the Devil's 1999 "End White Funk" tour.
Posted by Chris Jury http://www.thebismarck.net on March 28, 2012 at 1:57 PM
Elvis 14
@4: Your social rules are too complicated. Relax a little. Maybe make fun of some funk or something.
Posted by Elvis on March 28, 2012 at 2:00 PM
15
So you decide to withhold the apology and mock them for being offended?

Was the motivation of this post you wanting to be defensive and defiant?
Posted by beej_shan on March 28, 2012 at 2:00 PM
blip 16
This is hilarious. It's even funnnier if you imagine the people writing the letters look like this.

Posted by blip on March 28, 2012 at 2:00 PM
alithea 17
@4 okay but LETS BE REAL, ska is so embarrassing that even i, #1 lover of ska in seattle, would have not defended ska. a bunch of 19 year olds dressed in hawaiian shirts and cargo shorts and checkerboard vans and "skanking" is super fucking embarrassing.

so yeah, DONT BE A SKA BAND either!
Posted by alithea on March 28, 2012 at 2:08 PM
J. Burns 18
Mellow out, brahs.
Posted by J. Burns on March 28, 2012 at 2:22 PM
cosby 19
@17:
I actually like the Specials circa 1979-1981, I was just poking fun at myself.

(that's how it's done)
Posted by cosby http://www.myspace.com/cosbyshownights on March 28, 2012 at 2:22 PM
seandr 20
Funk is only slightly better than smooth jazz and jam bands.
Posted by seandr on March 28, 2012 at 2:23 PM
21
I don't listen to Country Music, but I wouldn't tell someone to not be in a Country band, if thats where their passions lie. Just because you personally don't like the genra, don't make it out to be 'if you want to be as cool as me, don't be in a band like this.' Funk music inspired much of the music we have today, and maybe you should look a bit more into the history and how it started, before you go badmouthing it to such extremes.

Get over yourself. It sounds like you're complaining about people not agreeing with what you're saying, when most of the Seattle populous embraces funk/hip-hop culture with open arms.

I suggest, take a chill pill, put on a Parliament-Funkadelic vinyl on your Urban Outfitters record player, and if you don't like it, don't listen to it, and don't berate others using a method where a LOT of people are going to see it. I mean, how could you even BE surprised over the response?
Posted by K-Bar on March 28, 2012 at 2:26 PM
cosby 22
@13:
The exact same thing could be said about hard rock, yeah?
Posted by cosby http://www.myspace.com/cosbyshownights on March 28, 2012 at 2:28 PM
Megan Seling 23
@4/@19 Okay, well then consider this: I LOVE "Superstition" by Stevie Wonder. Funk and all. So I guess that means my joke is allowed!
Posted by Megan Seling on March 28, 2012 at 2:31 PM
J. Burns 24
@22: IANCJ, but while loud rock music is my passion, I would freely agree that 95% of it is terrible.
Posted by J. Burns on March 28, 2012 at 2:31 PM
thecatnextdoor 25
Megan,

Woman-to-Woman I thought I'd tell you that I once went on the WORST date I've EVER been on with a lead member of a funk band here in Seattle. He was not only dishonest, but he was actually MEAN. So, I wouldnt let those funktards get you down cus you're known by association. What funking assholes!
Posted by thecatnextdoor http://onwbn on March 28, 2012 at 2:33 PM
matt 26
funk = bad
pop-punk = good

opinions = like kittens
Posted by matt on March 28, 2012 at 2:36 PM
Megan Seling 27
@26 Oh, Matt, you love bring up pop punk in Line Out comments as though it discredits any opinions I have about any other genre of music. I suppose if that was the ONLY thing I ever listened to, you'd have a point. But it's not. Why are you so stuck on the fact I like pop punk? It's weird.
Posted by Megan Seling on March 28, 2012 at 2:39 PM
matt 28
testy?
Posted by matt on March 28, 2012 at 2:45 PM
Foghorn Leghorn 29
I thought it was a standard rule that you can ignore all internet comments that used "yo" twice in one sentence. No, I made a mistake. The rule is that you can ignore all internet comments. Even this one. Whoa, meta...
Posted by Foghorn Leghorn on March 28, 2012 at 2:46 PM
matt 30
I think my point is fairly obvious, Megan.

Some people like stuff. Other people don't like that same stuff, for reasons that are almost seemingly arbitrary.

"stuff" = funk
"stuff" = pop-punk
"stuff" = jokes
"stuff" = blog posts
Posted by matt on March 28, 2012 at 2:48 PM
alithea 31
@19 79-81 were definitely the best years for the specials (although i really love 1996's today's specials. but! poking fun at yourself also means being able to understand why people might think your favorite genre of music is a total clown show. i can with ska because not everything is like the specials. even bands that were influenced by the specials end up being Reel Big Barf. when a genre of music becomes a mockery of itself, nothing is sacred and everything is up for mockery! hence: dont be a funk band.
Posted by alithea on March 28, 2012 at 2:49 PM
Megan Seling 32
@28 Ha! Nope. Finding your commenting habits to be weird doesn't mean I'm testy.
Posted by Megan Seling on March 28, 2012 at 2:50 PM
yos-wa 33
this funk discussion is getting reaaaal funky.
Posted by yos-wa on March 28, 2012 at 2:52 PM
J. Burns 34
IF I HAVE TO READ ONE MORE GODDAMNED BLOG POST ABOUT VAMPIRE WEEKEND I SWEAR TO CHRI...

Sorry. Wrong year.

***fffzzzppp***
Posted by J. Burns on March 28, 2012 at 2:54 PM
35
@4 Yo. I support and defend ska...more that some other popular genres. However, for someone (a musical performer at that) who defends one genre and throws another one 'under the bus' is not cool.
Posted by yor on March 28, 2012 at 2:56 PM
36
Most funk bands are terrible. Most ska bands are terrible. Most rock bands are terrible. Most pop bands are terrible. There aren't many electronica "bands" -- but of the few there are, mostly terrible. Most bands of any type are terrible.

Megan didn't say she didn't like terrible bands. She said she didn't like funk. Which is fine, because nobody is obligated to share that opinion. However, it is a little disheartening when a prominent local music writer offhandedly dismisses an entire genre of music just for cheap lolz on the internet. But whaddayagonnado?
Posted by The Sound of One Hand Clapping on the One and Three on March 28, 2012 at 3:03 PM
shootthehostage 37
I tried to think of something funny or clever to say but the thought that people actually like a genre as terrible as funk music was too distracting for me to think of anything.
Posted by shootthehostage http://www.shootthehostage.com on March 28, 2012 at 3:12 PM
Unregistered User 38
Grow some funk of your own, amigo.
Posted by Unregistered User on March 28, 2012 at 3:18 PM
J. Burns 39
Gonna go out on a limb: Please recommend local funk groups that successfully channel legit 70's grooves and aren't just frat boy prelude-to-a-walk-of-shame-jock-jams...

...brah.
Posted by J. Burns on March 28, 2012 at 3:19 PM
Megan Seling 40
@21 You do know that hiphop and funk aren't interchangeable, right?
Posted by Megan Seling on March 28, 2012 at 3:26 PM
Larry Mizell, Jr. 41
i didn't read any of the above comments, but the kinda snarky anti-funk sentiment that's become popular always reminds me of the anti-disco movement of the 70's, which IMO did have racist, rockist, anti-young-black-folks undertones. nothing new, and nothing that doesn't still go on, here and elsewhere. not saying you were bringing anything to the table but an innocently-meant joke, of course, just saying.
Posted by Larry Mizell, Jr. on March 28, 2012 at 3:38 PM
Will in Seattle 42
News flash: Jokes don't work on the Internet Tubes.

Also, check out KAOS Funk Brunch on Sundays in Fremont, across from the Starbucks.

Good funk, good food.

Another good reason to get off the Hill and into the real world of Seattle.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on March 28, 2012 at 3:42 PM
J. Burns 43
@Lar: you have a point, but when most people are dismissing funk, they're dissing white kids with soul patches, hackey-sacks, and coffee table basses with three strings too many.

Or at least that's what I think of. Pretty much the same people who think "Dave" is a "visionary."
Posted by J. Burns on March 28, 2012 at 3:53 PM
yos-wa 44
some heavy funk gettin laid down right now. i'd llike to see people get their funk scoff on when looking straight down the barrel of this funk gun!
Posted by yos-wa on March 28, 2012 at 3:53 PM
Larry Mizell, Jr. 45
@43 i totally get it. that's part of the burn.

wild black form gets co-opted, is then purely thought of as soul-patch longboard freaky styley, then it's a punchline to the "cool" white folks. there's little comfort there.

meanwhile there's still great and true funk happening. peace to Dam-Funk, the godfather of Modern Funk, and many others.
Posted by Larry Mizell, Jr. on March 28, 2012 at 4:01 PM
46
Wheedles Groove is Funk and if what they are doing is wrong, I don't want to be right.

Posted by Jeff on March 28, 2012 at 4:05 PM
J. Burns 47
Understood. A lot of people (like me) who clown on that shit also happen to love Rick James and "Maggot Brain," tho.

I might just need to be turned on to more modern stuff that's worthwhile.
Posted by J. Burns on March 28, 2012 at 4:05 PM
tabathalphabet 48
the word "funksters" makes my skin crawl.
Posted by tabathalphabet on March 28, 2012 at 4:30 PM
CATSPAW666 49
I believe the correct term is "funkateers".
Posted by CATSPAW666 on March 28, 2012 at 4:41 PM
Unregistered User 50
Also, is that random ride-thing at EMP still funk themed? I haven't visited in 10 years or so.
Posted by Unregistered User on March 28, 2012 at 4:43 PM
matt 51
@32, read 30.

Correlation is not causation, but you sure seem about something.
Posted by matt on March 28, 2012 at 4:45 PM
52
Primus sucks!
Posted by Les Claypool's Desire for Acceptance Among Adults on March 28, 2012 at 5:18 PM
53
@22- No. There are specific mechanics to ska, reggae, and to some extent funk that are exceedingly limited and limiting. They function more like what we would call a sub-sub-genre within 'hard rock',

The Specials were great, but they do everything I'd ever want a ska band to do, and there isn't enough inovation within the genre to support 40 years worth of bands. Same can be said for Parliament, or The Wailers, etc.

Punk, because it has come to signify an ethos more than an aesthetic, is not subject to the same restrictions. Beat Happening and Godhead Silo were both 'punk' bands, and there is enough room for inovation within the boundaries that they can both exist in the same 'scene' infrastructure. Can my R an B band play at your funk club? probably not.
Posted by Chris Jury http://www.thebismarck.net on March 28, 2012 at 5:25 PM
NaFun 54
Who says a funk band can't play rock music?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYVmPo-T6…
Posted by NaFun http://www.dancesafe.org on March 28, 2012 at 6:11 PM
NaFun 55
Megan @40 - Check out this album of tracks by famous hiphop artists that were reworked Parliament/George Clinton jams. West Coast hip hop owes everything to James Brown, George Clinton, and Sly and the Family Stone.
Posted by NaFun http://www.dancesafe.org on March 28, 2012 at 6:15 PM
Posted by NaFun http://www.dancesafe.org on March 28, 2012 at 6:16 PM
anthonyebriscoe 57
wow look what i had started (i wrote the first comment) heres some good funk/soul music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzqZwEsf3…

Posted by anthonyebriscoe http://www.downnorth.net on March 28, 2012 at 6:47 PM
fletc3her 58
The only question is jazz funk or funk jazz?
Posted by fletc3her on March 28, 2012 at 9:31 PM
59
@13 - as opposed to 4 dudes in sweaters banging out the "latest" brilliant indie-pop? all genres have the good, the bad, and the ugly.
Posted by Tres C on March 29, 2012 at 12:11 AM
60
@13 - as opposed to 4 bearded dudes in sweaters banging out the "latest" brilliant indie-pop? all genres have the good, the bad, and the ugly...
Posted by Tres C on March 29, 2012 at 12:16 AM
61
@59 -I think you are deliberately missing my point. yes, all genres have good and bad, but what I am specifically saying is that the strictures of some genres are such that there isn't anything but bad-all the good has been used up, and flexibility to support inovations that would permit new bands to go in new directions does not exist. "We're a ska band, but without horns and we don't play on the upstroke" -Well then you are not a ska band.
Posted by Chris Jury http://www.thebismarck.net on March 29, 2012 at 12:38 AM
62
PS- I actually had to sit through a band that called themselves "The Good, The Bad and The Funky" yeah, that was the end of it for me. I don't have any more time for this shit.
Posted by Chris Jury http://www.thebismarck.net on March 29, 2012 at 12:43 AM
63
Hey Megan, I'm the leader of The Staxx Brothers, my name is Davin Michael Stedman and Grant can can go ahead and unblur our band name on those comments from his post. Look you kicked a hornet's nest. And one of the rules of comedy is that you don't kick down. Well you did and you hit some nice people in the teeth. There's a critical prejudice in this town towards Funk music that we don't experience when we play in San Francisco. It's just ironic, and a really hard pill for musicians to swallow, that a compilation of excellent but often blatantly directive recordings reissued by Light in The Attic can get local acclaim, but the music that it influenced and resonates with it today is tossed in the garbage can. There's a reason why Jimi's own childhood friends quietly admit that had he stuck around, he would have died a landscaper. Seattle isn't quite the music town it's supposed to be, especially not for Black musicians. In some ways, with its isolation and unfriendly music critics clinging to the safety of their hipster status, it's a graveyard. Great talent like Allen Stone can make it out, but what about the best singer in Seattle, Caine Watson from Coldnote?

Megan I wrote you an excellent essay about all this, but we can talk about it backstage when I'm covering Sasquatch if you really care to hear my thoughts. You did inspire some good writing - a thesis that I may devote my masters studies to. But for the most part it was a very proficient bitch slap.

The Staxx Brothers are in a unique position in this argument. I've never once billed or advertised us as a funk band. I've said we're a Hard Ass Soul since nearly the beginning, but writers like Dennis Cook co-editor of Jambase.com, that cover our every step and step up to write our liner notes, consider us a funk band. I think it's a compliment. If I try to write an AC/DC song, and it comes out sounding more like Funkadelic or something completely unique, it's better than giving the world another AC/DC song. But I digress...

There's a vibrant Funk/Soul/Groove scene in Seattle with just as much history as its paler skin cousins that the world measures us by. Whether the records stands up, is a very good question. I'm not sure if you're the best person to judge that because you're clearly writing off the genre that is the backbone of the origins of Hip Hop, and later Westcoast G-Funk. It's also much of the DNA and inspiration behind Fela's work in Afrobeat via James Brown. You're kind of missing a really big train.

I mean a really big train:

...I can argue that Sun Records and white devils like Jerry Lee Lewis helped pioneer Rock & Roll for white audiences, because what they passed to country audiences and radio stations -- was funky as hell.

...I can argue that Funk music is just the natural evolution of the Rock & Roll that Ike Turner pioneered in the early 50s. Draw a line from Ike's Rocket 88 to Ike & Tina's Bold Soul Sister and what if it's all just Rock & Roll, and the honkies just started playing something else that we should have never been oxy moronically labeled soft rock - like Air Supply and America. That Sub Pob / Hardly Art bands like Fleet Foxes & The Head & The Heart aren't Rock & Roll at all...they're just soft rock. Not folk rock - because that's bad ass shit like Woody Guthrie and Leadbelly.

...maybe you're pissing on the real Rock & Roll bands in Seattle. Because while Black Sabbath still had that roll, Metal soon there after lost its groove. Now it's just Rock. Maybe when Rick James coined his music Funk & Roll, he was the Godfather. Maybe the greatest Rock & Roll album of the 70s is Standing on The Verge of Getting It On by Funkadelic - and it turns out you're not a fan of Rock & Roll at all. But The Head & The Heart sure is catchy!

Good ol' Guns & Roses is Rock & Roll, but that incog-negro Slash sure loves James Brown. In fact he's funky as hell.

Relevant Story:

My professor back in college stopped this Jazz ensemble I was in, mid song and told us we were going to starve out there in the real world if we couldn't play Funk. At first we winced when he said it was the music of our generation. We thought he forgot what year it was. But he got behind the piano and played us Dr. Dre. Then he knocked over his music stand and shouted that Funk is still the music people are going to pay us to play for $10 at the door. His name is Horace Alexander Young and he's right.

The Staxx Brothers are out there on tour in the real world, where we have to play 2-3 sets spanning 3+ hours a night to make $400 in smaller markets as we march onto cities like San Francisco. Out in the country and in the shadow of the Filmore, people need to dance. The bar needs to slang those drinks. I need to pass around the plate for tips and sell CDs (while I still can). Megan Seling, it's hard out there for a pimp.

I love to throw out the country song we throw on each album, I do consider us a Rock & Roll band and we'll melt your fucking face. We're also pretty damn good rappers and our 3-4 part harmonies always go over well. But it's the Hard Ass Soul, that I'm sure you'd equate to Funk, that's going to keep us alive, even after the Zombie apocalypse. Even after KEXP doesn't play our fourth album that once again comes out to exceptional national reviews. Or after we drop our 7th jaw dropping video in 2 years (come May 2nd at Cinebarre). I'm gonna' be me, and that means we're still going to be too funky for Locals Only show. Too Rock for Larry Mizzell's show, to Hip Hop for this, to different for that. Eventually they'll be a spot for us. The North East loves the funk - we're just so far away.

At least now I know why you're not going to play us - no matter how hard Detroit is Dead rocks or how good Sugarwalls sounds on the radio. But hey Dori Donoho over at Clear 101.7 in Bend will, and we need play out on the road much more than we need it around here where we have a draw. Though losing out on the megaphone of KEXP is pretty soul crushing, as it influences listeners around the world - like no other public radio station in the history of the world. I'm sure they'll jump on the band wagon the moment we no longer desperately need their approval.

Megan, don't be scurr'd if you like Jungle Cat (our third album) because it never runs out of ideas. For the record Chris Jury is trippin' about the limitations of sub genres. That's just the product of untalented (or undisciplined) writers -- or critics who can't write music, but can come up with more creative names for sub genres than they can original musical thoughts. I have 100s of songs I'm waiting to develop because I'm a writer. And if you don't have 100s of ideas in the bank, it's because you're not practicing you're craft and writing every day. Put me in a room with actual songwriters and we're gonna' laugh our asses off about sub genres. Every single song you write should help a hack music critic some day come up with a new name for a sub genre.

If you're serious about your assignment:

Listen to Jungle Cat, produced by Scott Colburn (Arcade Fire, Animal Collective, Mudhoney)

http://staxxbrothers.bandcamp.com/album/…

...and sit down and watch our videos starting with Sugarwalls, which we shot in a haunted Opera House on Super 8 film - and set in 1929. City Arts premiered it recently so the stamp of approval is still wet:

http://staxxbrothers.com/video

...and it's worth your time, because I don't make shitty albums and videos. Sometimes you have to practice Santeria or give into other dark forces to get an amazing riff or musical theme, but it's totally worth it. Even Billy Graham knows, the Devil has the best songs.

Davin Michael Stedman
Soul United Productions
The Staxx Brothers
425.273.4259

PS. commenting behind aliases is for pussies. Put your dick on the table.

Don't be scurr'd.
More...
Posted by DP Staxx on March 29, 2012 at 4:06 AM
yos-wa 64
Hey Staxx, is it ok if I co-opt the phrase "put your dick on the table?"
Posted by yos-wa on March 29, 2012 at 9:02 AM
65
"PS. commenting behind aliases is for pussies. Put your dick on the table."
Thank you.

also, I assume Stax Records is cool w/ your name.
Posted by Chris Jury http://www.thebismarck.net on March 29, 2012 at 9:57 AM
More, I Say! 66
No one can better understand the need to be self-deprecating about their music taste better than the lowly Morrissey fan. How would I get through another miserable, rainy day if I took that shit seriously? The only thing it is "seriously" is seriously embarrassing. But I love it. I love it so, so much.
Posted by More, I Say! on March 29, 2012 at 11:09 AM
matt 67
"white devil" ??? disqualified.
Posted by matt on March 29, 2012 at 11:56 AM
68
That was one of the assiest essays/comments ever written.
Posted by josher71 on March 29, 2012 at 1:12 PM
69
Chris Jury, when I meet with the people that resurrected Stax records as an underutilized imprint (for Jill Scott records), I will be putting my dick on the table - and make them a really cool offer. When I meet Steve Cropper and Booker T Jones, I will shine their shoes. Google how many rappers are professionally using the Staxx moniker (it's slang for stacks of money, power and influence). Then listen to Jungle Cat from start to finish, Warpath to Detroit is Dead and give me a call (425.273.4259). I'll do the same for anything you send me. And Matt, it's called irony, I f*cking love Jerry Lee Lewis, and he is the white devil, he's The Killer - he may have offed more than one of his wives. If you want to go toe to toe on the twisted and mangled roots of Rock & Roll...pull out your dick, put it on the table. It's fun. But thanks for reading that far into that essay. I love the white devil line. I know Megan's joke was a total miss, but I laced that letter with some nice comedic swag. But I shouldn't have cut this part about John Richards. Matt if you don't feel that joke, you're gonna' freak out when you read this Swift character, because he eats babies.

"Look KEXP is a public station. John Richards is making enough money to listen to my 3rd album and make me pancakes. That’s a fair rule…I know Jonathan Richards can’t get around to listening to everyone’s album but if you get three positively received albums in a row Jonathan Richards makes you pancakes and explains why he hates your music and why it doesn’t belong on KEXP."
Posted by DP Staxx on March 29, 2012 at 1:23 PM
70
Hey the Stranger,
Hire DP Staxx for your music section.

DP STAXX FTW
Posted by DP FTW on March 29, 2012 at 2:13 PM
Keekee 71
I thought that everyone on Lineout knew that Megan has the worst tatse in Musik ever???
Posted by Keekee on March 31, 2012 at 1:21 PM
COLDNOTE 72
Ok! I have been getting Emails n Text like crazy about this and asked what i think ?
1st my name is Caine (lead singer) for WA Hott Boys making noise COLDNOTE and if you ever been to CN show , You yourself would ask why bands like us and many Amazing Local Artist would take what you said the wrong way .

Now as for Racist I in no way think that ! for i dont know you well enuff ,but you n God know ya heart queen (smile)
What i do know about you ! Is your human n tho you are letting it be known now you meant no harm (smart thing by the way ; ) As a Writer Words Are Powerful , As a Writer you Have to Be Careful of What You Say n How You Say it ! cause your words can make n break baby girl and it stains The Stranger & Other Local Papers n Megz more then some feel already .

But as an Adult we learn from our mistake say i'm sorry ,even for The Misunderstanding or a Bad Joke n it was bad ! (ouch) lol
And to the Peeps with the Harsh Words it is Also Adult of us to Understand n Forgive Baby !
; )

Now Back to Music ! All My Life I had to Fight To prove to others to put away your fears n bs thoughts about me n others of a different back ground i have met along the way and i mean of all Races,Good,Bad ,Gay n Straight ! and I have not once Not Once meet any one who didnt need to Boogie their Blues Away !

Hard Working Bands n Artist Trying to Bring Real Music Back to WA "No Matter What Style" Should be talked about told about ! Tho I may be a brotha. I grew up on The Who, Stones Beatles ,AC/DC, Queen,Joplin Hendrix etc. as well as Blk Music duh ! lol

And it's well known Our Greatest Artist not of color even they took from Funk n Soul ; ) !
See Here Is Where You Show the Harsh Word People you meant no harm. You Go Out You check Out Bands ! And Judge them fairly Interview them even if it's just the ones you think are great ! Talk About Us Let them know Good Music is Right Here in Your Back Yard Of Many Wonderful Taste !

COLDNOTE we play Rock,Soul,Blues,Funk,Reggae,Hip Hop Ol'Skool to New with a whole lot of Sexy ! We mix them all up ! Some thing we like to call Musical Gumbo. You Get All That In One Show ! Why would you not let ya friends know a band where you can Party ya Stress n Blues Away n feel sexy while doing so (ha ha)

Right there is a cool story n you should hear how a boy from Brooklyn in a all White Band from Kitsap ended up Playing Benaroya Hall host band for Star Red Carpet Event Once again another story baby girl.

There are People in the North West That Luv to Just Get Down and You Have The Power to Lead Them to It ! It Also Broadens Your Readers which means Money Back in its Local Biz , Local Artist as Well Your Job (hint hint) smile. Til then please feel what i mean : www.reverbnation.com/coldnoteinc (live show recorded cd) hold it down Megan n Next Show in Town I'm Calling you to come Get Ya Boogie On with me ok ? peace queen
caine of coldnote
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Posted by COLDNOTE http://www.revernation.com/coldnoteinc on April 1, 2012 at 3:35 PM
JJ Nite 73
Time for a bit of a local heavy weight to... uh hem... weigh in.

My "radio" name is JJ Nite. Grew up in Tacoma listening to KYAC 1250 AM. Cuz at the time it was the ONLY radio station anywhere that consistently played what we used to call... "BLACK" music... aka soul and funk.

My first radio gig was on Tacoma's beloved KTAC and then I moved to having my own show on former KYAC, then called KFOX... located at 1250 khz on your AM dial. My show aired M-F, 7-12 and was called "The House Party".

I tried desperately to keep FUNK alive in Seattle. But due to something in the drinking water, funk has always had a bit of a battle in Seattle. Maybe Seattle is just so frikkin' liberal and Birkenstocky, it can't handle the true essence of blackness. Not blackness in the "I'm black and you are white sense"... but just the essence of real blackness. (Note: James Brown - I'm Black and I'm Proud)

I'm talkin' about real down and dirty, Mississippi Booger Nose Funk!

Not even actually sure what it is. Maybe it's just as simple as the fact that there are waaaay more white people than black, hence Grunge took hold and flourished. Well for a couple of years.

I get Megan was only kidding. No big Megan, honestly. I've been hearing little jokes and snide remarks about funk here in Seattle for over 25 years. Don't hear it in Atlanta, Cincinnati, New York, and London. You see, Seattle tries to be metropolitan and big city. But sometimes it can't get out of it's own redneck ways.

Rather than spend too much time ranting, I did what any self-respecting DJ that's been spinning since the late 70s would do... START MY OWN DANG' RADIO STATION!!!! While Japan, Atlanta, and Munich have been celebrating Funk Republic Radio now for almost a year, Seattle again is late to the party. (We're one of the fastest growing stations on the net with 30,000 listeners monthly, located in a secret studio down in Olympia - muhahaha)

http://funkrepublic.com

Classic funk, nu-funk, rock funk, p-funk, national acts, local acts and everything in between. Check out my live show every Friday night from 7-9pm - JJ Nite's Funk n Soul Roadshow.

Now everybody chill the funk out... FUNK IS ALIVE AND WELL.

JJ
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Posted by JJ Nite http://funkrepublic.com on April 1, 2012 at 6:15 PM
JJ Nite 74
Some of you young folk act like funk hasn't earned any credentials, like it came out just after Britney Spears or Lady Gaga.

Ohhh young music aficionado wannabe's... ever heard of Lee Dorsey?

http://youtu.be/1e8t908XhVI

When a music genre' has been around since the early 60s and has earned too many Billboard #1 slots to count, I think that it has earned it's right to b considered a legitimate form of American music.

Can we discontinue the snubbing?
Posted by JJ Nite http://funkrepublic.com on April 1, 2012 at 9:15 PM
JJ Nite 75
Ready for some NEW real deal funk? Listen to some tracks from these bands and everyone will shut up.

http://youtu.be/_ivqla73n6o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdEkLkhZw…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2v0WvutW…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_qQEYKpc…
Posted by JJ Nite http://funkrepublic.com on April 1, 2012 at 10:09 PM
Keekee 76
Uhh...

Early 60's is a-really pushing it, don'cha think???
Posted by Keekee on April 2, 2012 at 10:22 AM
JJ Nite 77
@76 my apologies, it was the mid to late 50s where funk began making it's way in to soul music -- Mz Keekee, how many citations would you like? :-)

WIKIPEDIA

Little Richard's relations with Brown were particularly significant in Brown's development as a musician and showman. Brown once called Richard his idol,[24] and credited Richard's saxophone-studded mid-1950s road band, The Upsetters, with being the first to put the funk in the rock and roll beat.

The resulting track "Please, Please, Please" ended up becoming The Flames first R&B hit in 1956,[27] selling over a million copies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Dorsey

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_brown

Posted by JJ Nite http://funkrepublic.com on April 2, 2012 at 12:43 PM
78
Tell em' JJ! You just proved Funk is as old as Rock N' Roll. I love it. Nice to have somebody who gives a f*ck about funk and an actual expert in the conversation. If you don't know your history, the present is a mystery, then you say stupid shit and piss on authenticity.

Now JJ I got a theory that New Orleans Funk - second line Funk that goes back to the marching bands and funeral marches and early jazz, holds the key to playing funk off the One. I need to do more research and formulate these ideas, but what is it to play funky with out playing funk? I think our native son Jimi Hendrix might be the shining example of that notion in the world of Rock & Roll. No Jimi no Bitches Brew, no Funkadelic, no KEXP. Would The Temptations have attempted Ball of Confusion and Cloud Nine? The winds were changing but Jimi was a mighty gust from across the ocean (He didn't come out of Seattle, he came out of London, because Seattle was then and now the kind of cow town where critics would tell you not to start a funk band).

See why Paul Allen invented K-EXP:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khBDvYqgi…

and get into some Meters yall' - they have pretty deep catalog, I'm still discovering chestnuts like these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6_9IXIMU…

and is this FUNK that's not on the one? What you think JJ Nite?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQud62EmZ…

Thanks for chiming in man. So many hipsters - dissing on George Clinton because it's easy. They don't understand his legacy nor the depth of his own catalog and influences beyond Flashlight and Bop Gun. And if they did they would lament the tragedy of his decline. It's just amateur hour. Bring on the varsity team.

The only varsity quality statement (outside of JJ Nite) came from starting guard Larry Mizell. I quote,

"i didn't read any of the above comments, but the kinda snarky anti-funk sentiment that's become popular always reminds me of the anti-disco movement of the 70's, which IMO did have racist, rockist, anti-young-black-folks undertones. nothing new, and nothing that doesn't still go on, here and elsewhere. not saying you were bringing anything to the table but an innocently-meant joke, of course, just saying"

Some other folks need to start practicing their free throws.

Signed,
Davin Michael Stedman. Call me anytime, I'm easy to find (425.273.4259).
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Posted by DP Staxx on April 2, 2012 at 2:29 PM
JJ Nite 79
This whole exercise sort of reminds me back in the day when I used buy 45s from Tower Records before I DJ'ed a gig. The little $8 an hour butt-wipe walked around the store with this smug, sort of "look-down-your-nose" attitude if you didn't look like some sort of creature from the original bar scene in Star Wars. Like I was bothering somebody when I needed help.

That's how I became buddies with Donald Glaude. Back when he was peddling wax at Penny Lane Records in Tacoma and telling us about this brand new super cool club music he was spinning.

He called it House, or... something like that.
Posted by JJ Nite http://funkrepublic.com on April 2, 2012 at 11:10 PM
Keekee 80
Sorry, Ima not hearing any funk in "Please, Please, Please." Tha's some revisionist history you've got going on there.
Posted by Keekee on April 3, 2012 at 10:56 AM
JJ Nite 81
Some of the youngin's need to know when they should "listen" and they might learn something.

@80 - Keekee, come on darling... let's not have this conversation, I lived it. If you had 30 years in the music biz, built around funk n soul, we could maybe banter a bit.

You need to fully understand what funk is, where it came from, how it started to participate here.

No offense.
Posted by JJ Nite http://funkrepublic.com on April 3, 2012 at 1:25 PM
Gregro7 82
Interesting comments from all sides...Funk used to be a bad word... but not any more and hasn't been for a long time. I have loved it since I was a kid love it more now than ever.

I have had the opportunity to interview and feature cats from Wheedle's Groove (who never got the respect that they deserved until 30 years after the fact,) Eldridge Gravy and The Court Supreme and Global Heat. Recently, I chatted with Allen Stone and some dudes that played with this cat named Prince back in the 80's (Dr. Fink and BrownMark.) I have played and sang in funk bands as well. I can't get enough of that funky stuff! But it aint' about me, I know..

I tell you what, If you are funky and good. Send your tracks to me and I will spin em and make sure they get spun on two local internet radio stations (NWCZ.com) Myseattlenightout.com) that my show, SMI Radio s on. I will also feature your tracks as well. If you are really good and super funky and are interesting to talk to. I may even interview you AND spin your tracks on SMI Radio. Not for the purposes of paying penance, but because I dig it.

In my humble opinion, there still seems to be a lot of musical segregation in The Emerald City that I have not seen other place I have lived in or visited. Perhaps we all need to take a good look in the mirror or inside our hearts and ask ourselves why.

Stay Funky my friends!

Peace, Love & Music
Greg Roth / seattlemusicinsider.com
Posted by Gregro7 http://seattlemusicinsider.com/ on April 3, 2012 at 3:28 PM
JJ Nite 83
@82 word to yo' moms!

Hey Greg, we should hookup... would love to hear about what you got going on. I'm Program Director at Funk Republic Radio. http://funkrepublic.com way down here in Lacey.

JJ
Posted by JJ Nite http://funkrepublic.com on April 3, 2012 at 3:35 PM
Gregro7 84
PS. I think the Stranger does a great job covering local music. When I have time to actually consume content, I enjoy reading what the good folks at The Stranger have to write about.

Also the fact that the article that Megan wrote opens up this kind of dialogue is a good thing! : )

Rock on with your bad selves!

Greg / SMI
Posted by Gregro7 http://seattlemusicinsider.com/ on April 3, 2012 at 8:52 PM
anthonyebriscoe 85
This is so cool im glad I started this dialog it really was needed..
Posted by anthonyebriscoe http://www.downnorth.net on April 4, 2012 at 1:19 AM
Keekee 86
Some folks have boulder-sized chips on their shoulders.
Posted by Keekee on April 4, 2012 at 10:41 AM
JJ Nite 87
Some folks have a lack of understanding of American music
Posted by JJ Nite http://funkrepublic.com on April 5, 2012 at 9:46 PM
JJ Nite 88
****ATTENTION SEATTLE, TACOMA, PORTLAND FUNK N SOUL BANDS!!!!!

So far I've received a bunch of tracks from local funk n soul artists, and guess what? We are playing them on Funk Republic Radio, with audiences in Japan, Germany, France, South America and even... (drum roll please) SEATTLE!!!!!!

Anymore funk n soul bands out there?

Send your MP3's to JJ@FunkRepublic.com
Posted by JJ Nite http://funkrepublic.com on April 6, 2012 at 7:36 PM

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