News Nov 21, 2012 at 4:00 am

How Two Men Elected as Democrats Could Hand Washington State to the Republicans

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1
Hoo boy. Turncoats spewing foul play!
Let's hope not.
2
How cute, Goldie thinks there is a difference between democrats and republicans.
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There is a different a big difference how far left or right do you have to be not to see it? Pretty far, quite the ideologue.
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This is excellent. Stop Jay Inslee in his tracks and bring some sanity back to Washington State government.
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WUH?!?
Cat got your brain #3!
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Forget the political parties for a moment, and think about what this man has done. Then tell me whether you want him representing you. He lied, lied to get power... Senator Rodney Tom claimed to support one group to appease his district, and is now turning to his claimed group's opposition (or seriously considering doing so) in order to lead said opposing group. Is it just me, or is that a highly amoral thing to do?
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There is a cuntinuum [NOT sic!] called "the universal political spectrum" by the folks at Political Compass,and the "DINOs" are to the right of all other Demoncraps.(Blue-Dog and New Democrats are NOT members the Progressive Caucus in the CONgress;ditto for their counterparts in states' legislatures,counties' councils,and cities' councils).The Dems had supermajorities in both houses of this state's legislature a few years ago;they did NOTHING.Dems in CONgress had majorities AND the White House for twenty-one months;they did NOTHING.Vote socialist if you have a conscience.
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Socialism will only result in unemployed retarted hordes screaming for their Obama phones.

Socialism, hmm...how's that working fer yeh in Europe?
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@7 - Jesus fucking Christ. These pejorative-heavy fake political words like "Demoncraps" are so mind-numbingly awful. Just shut the fuck up, loser.
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hey number 8, as an american benefiting from socialism in Europe, I can tell you one (among many) great benefit.

People can spell.
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#10 Aside from your obvious liberal leanings and oblivion to the social problems which include street riots and increased suicide rates, you do not understand sarcasm. In addition, if we are going to be nitpicky and believe we are little miss grammar, we begin all sentences with captitalization, dumbas*.
12
your all retarted
13
Same ol paranoid/grandiose/crap from the usual gang of idiots....thanks strange ones
14
When elections cost the amount they do, do you not think they are akin to casinos where the house is rigged?

Now, who is paranoid and who is plain naive?
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You are both paranoid and naive.
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#12-does that mean they've all been made into small pies at least twice?
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#3

Choosing between Republican and Democrat polluticians is like choosing between syphilis and gonorrhea.
Still, it's comical to read the arguments on blogs, forums, and chat rooms that are tantamount to, "My venereal disease is better than your venereal disease."
I'll pencil you in for syphilis.

Or to put it more succinctly, the 2 parties are nought but 2 sides of the same coin.
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"Old timey days" when political pork mattered more than party? Who the fuck do you think you're kidding? Look at Seattle's city government, which claims to be "progressive" but operates entirely on pork.

As for the two Democrats, they've looked at how Seattle does things and they want to be paid off. I can't blame them.
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@18 - Oh look, it's the obnoxious twat who thought he knew American politics and was proven incontrovertibly wrong on all accounts. Weren't you going to stop being an annoying piece of shit after Obama won the election by more than 3%?
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An Elephant in a Donkey Costume: The History of the Obama Presidency.
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@20: No. President Obama could have accomplished far more without the Goldman Sachs Elephants in the Stubbornly Unmovable Pig Costumes hell bent on standing in his way. Blame John Boehner, not Barack Obama, for any lack of progress made over the past four years in cleaning up the abysmal mess left by George Dubya Bush.

What you REALY mean is An Elephant in a Donkey Costume: History of the G.W. BUSH Presidency.
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Nonsense, grizelda. Funny you should mention Goldman Sachs, Obama's second largest source of campaign contributions in 2008. He showed his gratitude by filling the Treasury Department with Sachs alums.

And the elephants had nothing to do with Obama's kill list. That's entirely his own invention. And it's Obama, not anyone in the GOP, whose drone war in Pakistan constitutes a war crime.

Seriously, griz, get a clue.

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@20 & @22: Ohhhhhhhhhhh. I get it now.
You're just another pissed off blindly faithful Romney-backing tea bagger trolling about the 2008 and 2012 elections. Who put more money into lies, hatred, war spending, and fear mongering? The REPUBLICANS!
Well, you can always sign the petition in Texas and leave the U.S.
if you want. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

You seriously need to get a clue. I don't rely on FOX TV for my information sources.
24
O00h jesus, more sycophantic party worshipers vying to see who has the cleanest lower exit-hole.

I think we are going to hear...blah blah Bush's fault blah blah...well into the 23rd century.
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@#9,Fuck yourself,Faber!Trolling will get you NO brownie points from the Wise,you n00b!!!
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#19, I was happily surprised by Obama's re-election, and delighted by the margin. It was pure poetry to see the Mittster wind up with 47%. Sorry to piss on your fantasy of my being a wingnut.
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@26: Actually, I'm happily surprised that you're not a wingnut.
Happy holidays.
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I never accused you of being a wingnut. I accused you of being an obnoxious twat. Which you are. Because you said over and over and over and over and over again that everyone but you was stupid for thinking Obama had anything but the slimmest chance of winning, and if he did, it would be by the slimmest margin, and boy aren't Democrats really sitting on their asses thinking that they don't have to vote because Obama is going to win by a landslide.

Apologize. Apologize for spamming your shitty fucking garbage all over the place for months on end because you're too stupid to see what's plainly in front of you.
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All those who voted either republican or democratic should be ashamed of themselves. And for the gloating Obomites, remember Bev Harris, the woman who reported fraud in the 2000 and 2004 elections which Bush won, she is declaring that 2012 elections were way worse. In fact, many districts reported 100% and 99% victories for Obama and other districts sent results before even counting. If you truly think you are participating in a democracy, keep thinking that ten years later when you have had all your property confiscated and a hood placed over your head because you did not display full and proper respect to the state.

Nothing to see here, just move along.
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#28, you are so full of shit. I never called anyone 'stupid for thinking Obama had anything but the slimmest chance of winning," etc. Do you want me to post the links, bitch? You see, I figured that some asshole like you would post some bullshit like yours, so I saved them.
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@16 re@12's post: LOL!!! GOOD one!
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Oh, yes, please post all of your posts that do not say that, thus conclusively proving that it didn't happen. What a fantastic understanding of logic you have there.

Never mind the countless posts where you told people they were drinking the KOOLAID whenever they disagreed with you or implied that Obama had a good shot at winning. Never mind all of the countless posts where you claimed Paul Constant and Nate Silver were not looking at the evidence, but were instead just telling liberals what they want to hear.

Also, never mind this quote of yours from October 16:
Like the worst wingnuts, the one thing you people can never do is admit a mistake.
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Here you go, bitch:

http://tinyurl.com/dybqd8l
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p.s.: Paul Constant only told people what they wanted to hear. His "coverage" amounted to little more than blind faith in Silver's work.

My point all along about Silver was never to say it was wrong, but only to say that his track record was one election deep, and that his forecasts for 2012 conflicted with the evidence from 15 of the past 16 presidential elections.

In the thread I linked, I even offered a possible resolution for the conflict between Silver and past experience. I never pissed on Silver's work, nor did I call anyone "stupid for thinking Obama had anything but the slimmest chance of winning."

What I did do was dump on the Kool-Aid drinking Obama fan girls here, including Paul Constant, who relied on nothing more than Silver's predictions and their own hysteria as an argument for Obama's inevitable re-election.

I'm genuinely surprised that Obama won. I'm pleasantly shocked by the margin of his victory. I'm very happy that Silver was right. But I've got nothing to "apologize" for, you bootlicking little "progressive" bitch.

The fact that Obama won does not confer talent or smarts on those who thought he'd win. Silver has every right to do a victory dance. He was vindicated, and if I were to meet him I'd be standing in line to congratulate him. But Paul Constant? He's a joke, and so are you.
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Oh, one thread in which you backtracked heavily on your earlier rhetoric. Is that sufficient proof in your eyes that you did not spend an entire two month period otherwise telling people that they were retards, or fourth graders, or wet their bed simply because they did not agree with you that Romney was supposedly the favorite to win the election? Oh, no need to answer that, darling, I already know that you are exactly that idiotic.

No, despite your backpedaling, you were still insistent that you were the one with the experience, the one with decades of knowledge, but decades of being wrong and stupid doesn't actually make you wise unless you learn from your mistakes. You're still insistent now that what wasn't is, and what isn't was.

You clearly lack even the most basic observational skills. Nate Silver was not 1 for 1. You obviously knew nothing about him until he was mentioned for the fifth time on Slog, since you had no idea what he had done other than predict the 2008 election rather closely. In fact, Silver had three elections under his belt before this one, and one of them was a total flop. But even if you were only counting 2008, that is not 1 for 1, but 49 for 50, and Indiana was such a close race that one(you) would have to be a gibbering tit to hold it against him. All of that work refining his methodology, and it didn't hold a candle to your years of accumulated wrongness in your mind. Your analysis was no different than any other idiotic pundit, relying upon urban legends and political fairy tales to predict the winner, however dressed up it was in "economic conditions". You would have been as well served to make your claim using only the Washington Redskins as evidence.

You were wrong. You were very loudly wrong. No amount of mincing around claiming how happy you are that you were wrong will excuse how much of an obnoxious twat you were the entire fucking time that everyone else (who was right, I will remind you again) told you that Obama had a very good shot at reelection. I can perfectly well believe that you are deadwitted enough to persist in your "I was right, even though I was wrong" blathering, but I won't let you off the hook for it until you apologize for being a stupid and annoying piece of shit for two fucking months.
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You actually called Obama Mike Dukakis. You actually said he was acting like Bill Cosby. You compared him to John Kerry. The entire time the entire rest of the world with their heads not up their asses were comparing John Kerry, a very rich man from a very rich family who had a lot of trouble relating to people who were not also very rich, to Romney, a very rich man from a very rich family who had a lot of trouble relating to people who were not also very rich. You did the exact opposite! The one thing in this situation I am amazed at is that you have not killed yourself in shame of being so absolutely wrong about that. There was nothing of Kerry in Obama, and yet you persisted in that attack. And here you are, wrong about that along with a million other things

What do you see of Dukakis in Obama now, you festering twerp? How many articles of the Romney camp conceding that they didn't have near the ground game that Obama had, didn't make near the effort that he did to connect to all people instead of just some? And yet you claimed that the Obama campaign was just sitting on its heels, waiting to win. What sort of person can bear the shame of being such an intellectual albatross around the neck of the nation?
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Hey bitch, speaking of backtracking, are you now backtracking on your lie about my having called people "stupid for thinking Obama had anything but the slimmest chance of winning?"

Or have you decided to go a Mitt Romney? You know, tell a lie and then run away from it once you're called out?

Typical Seattle "progressive." You are no different than Sarah Palin, except that you're uglier and more boring.
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No, you've made another mistake. Well, two in fact, on top of all the other ones. One was assuming that the casual style that I was affecting in some way meant that I accused you of saying exactly those words in exactly those order. However, we've already established that reading comprehension is not your strongest suit (your strongest suit is bitching about minorities using EBT cards and claiming to still be a real and true progressive(You have no other suits)).
The other is that you missed that I proved that you had actually, in fewer words, accused others of being stupid for disagreeing with you. Or did you mean something else when called posters retarded, and told them they wet their bed, or that they were in elementary school? Was that meant to reflect some attribute other than low intelligence? Was it for something other than saying that you were wrong (I remind you again that you were in fact wrong. Very wrong)?
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So the retarded bitch finally backtracks. Thanks, #38, but where's your apology?
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That is not what backtracking means. I guess we can add "Doesn't know what words mean" to your list of failings. Are you trying to increase that list until it encompasses everything?

Also this is the sixth time in as many posts that you said "bitch", presumably referring to me. Are you sure you want to keep using that word? You seem awfully fond of bitches in general from what I've gathered
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As bitches go, #40, you're not even a very feisty one. Come on, say something interesting before I get too bored to answer you.
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If you post last, do you count that as a win?
43
Couldn't you at least gouge my back with your toenails?
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I only ask because if your posts were devoid of intelligence before, they're now also devoid of substance as well, and it looks like you are replying using the same instinctive brain patterns required by swallowing or breathing.
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Is that a "No," then?
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Does your wife make any actual income off of the videos that she posts of herself slathering makeup on her ugly mug, or are you left feeding her six kids and supporting her hopeless Sephora addiction on only your meager salary?
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Wow, so now misogyny is a "progressive" thing, right bitch?
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When did you start calling me a progressive? Was it after I never claimed to be one, or around the time you forgot I'm not from Seattle?
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I didn't call you a progressive. I called you a "progressive." Plenty of your kind in Seattle.
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By the way, bitch, aren't Tampa, and Florida, both outrageously fucked up enough to occupy your attention? How about fixing your own problems before so generously offering solutions to us from America's craziest state?
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A mere 12 hours to puzzle out an answer. I don't live in Florida, actually, but at last you've proven now that you at least have the deductive reasoning skills of 3 year old. I suppose that's something. Maybe one day you'll learn how to have a real conversation with an adult, but I doubt it.
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@24: Yes, we probably will, because--surprise!!----DUBYA created more insurmountable damage economically as well as environmentally than any other president in U.S. History. President Obama's two terms will be spent entirely in cleaning up the G. W. Bush Administration's abysmal mess.
Bush's agenda was to fuck the U.S. So much for "Mission Accomplished".
That's not anything to be proud of. If for some absurd reason you are, and voted for that shameful oil soaked war profiteering piece of shit, you owe the entire United States and the rest of the world an apology.
53
General Oboismo record:
NDAA
Agricultural Rural Council
50% more dept
more unemployment
more cronyism (he's Goldman Sach's Biaach)
more wars (oh yeah there's some like you haven't heard of like Sudan)

but,
he won the Nobel Prize because he'e black
he's sooo kewl

face it, those who voted for him did so because it makes them look, feel, and smell liberal
which is like two week old bananas, discolored, mushy, and full of stank.
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@53: Spoken like a true brainless 14-year old troll educated solely by mind-numbingly senseless, violent video games and nothing constructive to do now that school's out until January.
Go back to your cave and stay there. You're a true idiot.
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Funny how when liberals freely throw ****ing Bush this and that and have their idol Bill
Maher use expletives for everyone he does not agree with.
Screw you back you hypocrite.
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Spoken by a truly sad little troll with nothing to say. You obviously know everything there is to know about hypocrisy, because you're screwing YOURSELF, idiot, if FOX TV provides your idea of news resources.

When school reopens in January, do yourself a favor---go learn something other than Video Arcade 101.

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