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I think first-date sex girl has something else going on. There's too much of a pattern going on there. And notice that it's *her* interpretation that she's not date-able because she's banging early and often. I'm guessing that there's either bad sex or crazy person going on here.
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I just wanted to say that you get things wrong sometimes but of all the... commentators? Whatever you all are, that I follow regularly, you're the one who gets things wrong the least. Unless somebody else can point it out to me, I think this week you got EVERYTHING exactly right. The explanation/apology to the kids offended by the bible rant? Exactly right. The answer to the superhero sex worker? Exactly right. The answer to the first-date sex girl? Exactly right. Just a constant stream of beautiful, nuanced, exact rightness. How amazing that is, and what a joy to listen to. Please never stop working and take some longevity pills so that you can live twice as long Maurice Sendak, another gay guy who was beautifully nuanced always and exactly right ridiculously often and who never stopped working and made all of our lives greatly better.
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@1 I agree. People forget that first dates and first impressions are to determine that you are a SANE person. Nothing wrong with a sane kinky person. But if you dont get the first part right, its over. I know a girl like this, and she comes across as unstable, so of course she strikes out all the time.
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To the caller who didn't want to play games and wanted to fuck on the first date. I am the same way and yet repeatedly end up in long term relationships with the people I fuck almost immediately after meeting them/going on the first date. I would say hang in there, and also maybe look at the types of people you are dating. Anyone who holds you to a different standard than what they hold themselves too is not worth your time in my opinion.
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I just wanted to say that the advice to the extorted guy to date/fuck more age appropriate men is disheartening, as a 23 year old guy who is exclusively attracted to men over 40. It's hard enough to find men that are willing to date me without Dan Savage shaming them. Anyway, other than that it was a great episode.
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To the girl who wants to fuck on the first date... make sure that the guys you're still interested in actually know that you're still interested. When I was still in the dating pool, I went on a lot of first dates with guys. Some of them went badly, and I left as soon as I could without being rude; some of them went really well, and I'd have sex with them and call them soon afterward to ask for another date. Some of them were in between, and I had sex with quite a few of those guys without calling them or getting called back. A couple of the guys I dated where it went well were surprised when I called them back because they'd assumed that I had sex on the first date with them because that's all I was looking for and I wasn't interested in a relationship.

Bottom line: if you're going to sleep with a guy you actually like on the first date, make sure he absolutely knows you want a second date.
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wow. weird guy relationship people!!! if you're not actually fucking someone at the moment, how is it any of your business who they fuck? why wouldn't you go there with your friend's ex - who is probably your friend too.... aside from which, they were only KISSING!! why is there an issue?? i think this is what we call "throwing his toys out of the cot". and dan - being straight doesn't let people off with toddler-style tantrums.
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To first-date girl...I've been the same way all of my life, trying to play the dating game, having sex early and not having much success getting to a lasting, long term relationship. Finally, at 48 I went on Adult Friend Finder and described myself as a person who loved to have sex and if a long-term relationship resulted, all the better. The first guy I met has turned into my love, because he (and others given the stack of emails I receive) described themselves the same way. She needs to think creatively about how to put herself in an arena with men who share her values.
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Looking forward to the NOM debate. I have been puzzled by the fact that the BIG 10 make so little appearance when defending gay marriage. Since gay relations aren't part of the big 10, those who are in same sex relationships should be less vilified than those who break one of the big 10 (or get caught). Similarly, Jesus, channeling the teaching of Hillel, states that you should "love (i.e. accept) your neighbor," and surely the words of Jesus trump those of St Paul. "Turn the other cheek, do good to those who dispitefuly use you," etc. are all the words of Jesus. Wasn't homosexuality accepted by the Greeks and Romans? Surely Jesus would have been familiar with the pracice and spoken out against it if it was something he was concerned about.
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Homosexuality is condemned in the new testament as well - I think you'd do better if you reminded those Christians who play the "but Jesus changed everything, the old testament doesn't matter anymore!" -card that if they disregard the old testament, they'll disregard things like, oh, original sin? Only the pillar their whole bullshit stands on. And genesis. And the ten commandments... and all the prophesies that were deliberately made "come true" in the new testament that "proved" that Jesus was the messiah, and so on. They can't disregard the old testament unless they want to disregard all the basis for their whole religion. Other than that, you're right on, as per usual.
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I find the idea of "strategic dating" incredibly disgusting. If you want to mold an organism to suit your taste take up bonsai.
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I left a VM regarding the NOM debate, but I'm still not entirely sure what the deal is with this. Meaning: Dan has been challenged to a debate for the purpose of..... what? Debating whether or not the kids should have left the room? Whether what he was saying was offensive? The answer to the first is: grow up, and the answer to the second is: Yes. Of course. He asked if he should pull any punches, the school said "no," so he didn't censor himself. These kids knew what they were getting themselves into, and I have to wonder if the ones who were so offended didn't go into the meeting with the purpose of causing problems.

Secondly, as a religious Jewish woman, I am sick to death of hearing this or that be called an "abomination." Homosexuality is an "abomination." Abortion and/or birth control is an "abomination." You can't spit without hitting all the "abominations" flying around today! Half the time, these translations of the "Old Testament" can't discern the difference between "Thou Shalt Not Murder" and "Thou Shalt Not Kill." Who is to say what is meant by "abomination"? Abomination to G-D? To me? To some putz who has nothing better to do than to call out Dan Savage for speaking to a bunch of students?

You know what I find an "abomination"? The fact that, as a minority, my rights may potentially sit with a bunch of people who do not represent my beliefs (religious or otherwise), and who are now self-appointed doctors and can determine my medical options. MY G-D has zero problem with me using birth control, OR having an abortion, if I so chose. And frankly, MY G-D has a lot more shit to manage in the great vastness of the cosmos, than whether a couple of boys, girls, or whatever landed in between, decides to make a lifelong commitment. This "NOM" debate is offensive to me because it's just a red herring to detract from real issues going on in the world. "Let's all focus on Gay Marriage!" "Let's all focus on abortion!" Just stop. Enough. Fix the economy, end shitty education in the US, focus on science and art and math, and stop challenging people like Dan Savage to debates because that's easier and more interesting than discussing REAL issues.

Ok. Sorry for the ramble, but I think this is just absurd.
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To the commenter near the end on "road head" for pilots,'Ah, wasn't the aviation blow job between passengers? I don't remember hearing the word pilot
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... somebody tried to "slut shame" me last week... good thing I have no shame... *snap*!
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So, you made a false argument today:

If you say group A condemns group B for one thing listed in the bible, and that they also ignore something else in the bible, you are not actually proving anything about the bible itself. You are only proving that group A has no right to condemn group B, and giving strong evidence that group A is composed entirely of jackasses. There really is nothing group A can say to negate the following possibilities:

(a) The bible is entirely correct and we are all condemned.
(b) The bible was written by people of varying degrees of wisdom and/or dumbassery, but it is loosely based on some deeper truth.
(c) The bible is irrelevant.
(d) Something else.

For me, given how little we know (or ever *can* know), and that there is no rule anywhere that the universe had to even exist in the first place, I kind of feel like believing any of these options is an act of faith.

Changing topics, let me also say that you are pretty awesome. Thanks for struggling out loud for the the rest of us. In particular, the story you told about your mother on This American Life had me crying like a baby -- a baby who just heard a really sad, really beautiful story about someone else's mother.

Keep at it,
Jack
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Nice episode!
Seashine
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Dan I feel compelled to say that you had a bit of a double standard advising the ball buster cheater to keep it quiet, but side with disclosure for the sex worker as superhero wrestler. The superhero was not having sex & doing it for money purposes whereas the ball buster was looking for sexual interest outside relationship. On your own logic both are justified & unlikely to harm their partners, so why shld the female sex worker be the one to disclose? Don't make assumption that a woman would have a problem with a bit of male ball busting on the side. Hopefully they are GGG & love them enough otherwise DTMF already!
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In the comments on previous episodes at the end of THIS episode, a bi girl says that the butch girls need to learn to fuck like men with a strap-on if they want to keep a bi girl. I'm not a butch girl but I am a lesbian who has never had sex with a man, so my immediate thoughts are - how does a man fuck? Do all men know how to "fuck properly" in an awesome manly way (because according to my straight female friends and my gay male friends, the answer is NO). I'm totally able to acknowledge that being a lesbian doesn't make you an amazing woman-pleasing machine. But how about this, bi commenter - TELL a lady how to fuck you! Draw charts, storyboard it out, take the damn strap on and fuck her and say "like THIS!" Or you know, talk to her. Because if we aren't all magically good at pleasing each other in those mysterious womanly lovemaking ways, we are sure as hell not going to all be good at fucking like a man.

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