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15 Won, But the Fight's Not Done

What Seattle's Most Successful Bare-Knuckle Activists Need to Fight for Next

15 Won, But the Fight's Not Done

Anna Minard

POWER TO THE IMPOLITE PEOPLE The way they won a minimum-wage hike wasn’t Seattle nice.

Seattle just enacted the highest minimum wage in the country. That's right: Seattle, the place famous for surface- level niceness, locals who refuse to jaywalk even in the rain, and political process that never ends. Seattle, where, as part of that instinct toward perpetual process, the mayor can rarely craft policy without first setting up a committee of stakeholders to collaborate so that no one ever feels left out.

On June 2, in a state that already had the highest statewide minimum wage in the country, the Seattle City Council unanimously passed an ordinance that will slowly but steadily raise the city's wage floor to just under an inflation-adjusted $15, over the course of the next decade. (On June 3, Mayor Ed Murray signed it into law.)

After the historic vote, Council Member Kshama Sawant acknowledged the well-founded Seattle stereotype of a "hippie city" where we "wear socks with our sandals." But recently, Seattle's been looking a little less chill and more ready to brawl. And hey, Seattle: It looks good on you.

That city council meeting to vote on this new law was a goddamn ruckus. It was packed to the gills with pro-$15 activists, who often drowned out the process with shouts, chants, and cheers, and who heckled the council members up on the dais (with some council members answering right back).

Who's responsible for this collapse of the usual kindergarten-teacher, Seattle-nice tone of local politics?

That would be Sawant and an army of activists from 15 Now and Socialist Alternative, who faced down relentless criticism of their "uncompromising" stance and loudly argued for every bit of their platform until the last moments of the council's June 2 debate. And it was the nonstop pressure of those noisy activists, plus a year's worth of disruptive (and well-organized) walkouts and actions by low-wage workers, that forced the issue to center stage at city hall. Sure, the final bill is littered with unfortunate provisions—training wages, youth wages, the counting of tips and benefits during the transitional period, and a delay of the start date—and is so complicated that it can't be readily explained in a sentence or two. But, at its core, it means substantial yearly raises for virtually every minimum-wage worker in the city for years to come. And that would not be happening without the constant, raucous activism we've seen over the last year.

"If we don't fight for what we want," Sawant said directly after the vote, "we will get nothing." She's pointed out repeatedly that this complex, measured compromise is what Seattle's workers get even with the most robust far-left activism we've seen in decades. What would have happened here if their army of red-shirted sign-wavers never materialized?

15 Now is celebrating a victory—they've even transposed their logo to read "15 Won"—but all the work they've done to build a movement had better keep on chugging, because this fight is nowhere near over.

That's right: Just days old, this minimum-wage law already faces serious challenges.

Business attacked right out of the gate, with the International Franchise Association, in a statement released the very day of the council vote, raging that Seattle's new law is "unfair and discriminatory." Specifically, they oppose language in the bill that counts franchise businesses as part of their larger national brands, thereby placing most franchises in the fast-track large-business wage schedule that hits $15 in three to four years. IFA president and CEO Steve Caldeira is now threatening the city with legal action, claiming that "this policy flies in the face of all legal precedent and defies common sense."

Mayor Ed Murray doesn't seem ruffled. The city, he says, was alerted to the legal threats in advance and did careful research to make sure the new wage law is in line with all applicable laws. "We believe we're on pretty solid ground," says Murray.

Another fight will surround the enforcement of this law, which goes into effect April 1, 2015, and maintains different wage tracks for different employees until the year 2025. The city council has passed two lauded progressive labor laws in the last few years, one strengthening anti-wage-theft rules and one mandating paid sick time. So how have those laws been enforced? Barely. To this day, no employers have faced wage-theft charges, and a recent University of Washington audit of the sick-time ordinance found around 40 percent of employers weren't fully complying. The mayor and city council have promised to work toward a better model, potentially by creating a new city office of labor standards enforcement modeled on San Francisco's notably proactive one. Their work should be done by this fall, when they start debating the city budget.

Council Member Nick Licata, who has long fought for that labor office, says he thinks the fight over enforcement provisions could be "as contentious" as the one surrounding the creation of the law. Which is fine, really. Turns out we've gotten pretty good at contentious fights around here. recommended

 

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Thank you Tim for making it possible to send this to the voters. Now that the children have tuckered out from their tantrum, the adults can make their decision.
Posted by David in Shoreline on June 11, 2014 at 5:13 PM · Report this
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This is all a distraction for the real issue that is destroying the American Economy and Dream: the exorbitant expense of maintaining the military industrial complex ("MIC"). It is not surprising that many corporations are stating that they will support a minimum wage pay increase ... these are the same corporations who invest heavily in the MIC. The benefits will be (at least) twofold: (1) higher wages = more taxation which will be directed towards the MIC and (2) the dividends generated by the maintenance of the MIC vis-à-vis defense industry, the maintenance of innumerable bases in foreign companies, and, of course, the MIC's insatiable appetite for wars and destruction. Oh, of course, the other benefit will be that small business will be largely destroyed as the wage hikes are introduced -- after that ... guess what? Corporations are the only business in town. RIP Small Business and Long Live War. Apparently.
Posted by Vesta2014 on June 10, 2014 at 12:52 PM · Report this
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@53 The very person $15 Now relies on in their misguided approach to social engineering does buy your crap.

http://www.theguardian.com/money/us-mone…
Posted by mistral on June 10, 2014 at 7:10 AM · Report this
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Ballot initiative. (by the by, did YOU sign I-1329? --- http://www.WAamend.org ).
Posted by 5th Columnist on June 9, 2014 at 3:58 PM · Report this
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@54 Don't worry your little socialist head.

They will fix this retarded, ill conceived mess at the State legislature.

Help is on the way with a state wide initiative to fix the min. wage at the state level and provide a fair, uniform min wage across the state.

While this is probably a NEWS FLASH most people who live in this state, don't buy your crap.

So you can put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Posted by mistral on June 6, 2014 at 7:28 AM · Report this
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Does anyone know what the wage for teenagers and "trainees" will be? Also, how long can someone be paid a training wage?
Posted by barleyfat on June 5, 2014 at 9:13 PM · Report this
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As I've indicated in previous comments, I'm very disappointed in Kshama's performance and how she and 15 Now gave in so quickly and easily.

However, I do have some sympathy for her plight. I'm sure the local (and possibly national) ruling elites used the carrot and the stick routine on her to woo, bribe and simultaneously threaten her to get her to back off her stance a bit. If the carrot doesn't work, then soft (character) assassination works well. A leader that could galvanize a national movement of liberation could even face the real possibility of hard assassination - being literally killed.

Most people have absolutely no idea what kind of gangster, sociopathic, evil trash really rule this country. They're prepared to face off with Russia in their pursuit of world domination. What do you think they will do to a Seattle city councilor?
Posted by jwaters on June 5, 2014 at 8:27 PM · Report this
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... Look at how they fight, and there is your answer.

Throw the peasants at the machine guns.

That's all you need to know about said civilization.
Posted by Aftereffect on June 5, 2014 at 8:22 PM · Report this
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I have to say, it looks like the Trotskyshites have betrayed the workers again. Throughout the cold war they denigrated the Soviet Union, and continue to do so, but they have never delivered on revolution and never can. The Soviets were far from perfect, but the working class was really in control there. There was no such thing as unemployment or homelessness; healthcare and education through grad school was free. Rents were capped at around 10% or less of income, and utilities, transportation and cultural activities were heavily subsidized. Sick pay, vacation and maternity leave were very generous - and the Soviets beat the U.$. into space with Sputnik.

Communism DID work - that's why it had to be destroyed. After being invaded shortly after its birth in 1917 by 14 capitalist powers from all over Europe, including the U.$. and Japan and facing massive obliteration during WWII from the Nazis (the Red Army destroyed over 80% of the Nazi war machine - so thank the USSR, not the U.$. - who entered the European theater late - for the defeat of fascism), it had to face decades of sabotage, subversion and psychological warfare by the CIA and they finally threw in the towel.

Supporting national liberation and progressive movements throughout the world finally taxed its strength to the limit - and so-called leftists in this country still give the Soviet Union no credit and continue to hurl invective at it.

Posted by jwaters on June 5, 2014 at 8:15 PM · Report this
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Hey #54, I'm right fucking here.
Posted by worthless_people_are_worthless on June 5, 2014 at 7:42 PM · Report this
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Mistral, you're the one that's lookin' to get a shit sandwich. Better keep your condescending classist attitude in check when you eat out in Seattle.
Posted by jwaters on June 5, 2014 at 7:41 PM · Report this
Theodore Gorath 53
@51: Post #38 was not me, genius. At least I can count.

But geez, not even going to try? You have even less than I thought. At least grow a spine and try to defend your bullshit.
Posted by Theodore Gorath on June 5, 2014 at 2:45 PM · Report this
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@50

This is a rambling, "pity me pines" crap sandwich.

Does it also come with a side of steaming socialist bullshit.

Posted by mistral on June 5, 2014 at 12:40 PM · Report this
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@49

In your post @38 you say you can't wait for your wages to rise to $15.

....Now you say somebody already hired me at over $15 years ago.

So which is it? Liar, liar pants on fire!

As I stated earlier--- you are just typical of the $15 Now crowd.

a) You won't read the studies.

b) You won't understand them.

c) You don't understand economics.

Thus there isn't any reason to discuss anything with you further.

Just wait and see what happens.


Posted by mistral on June 5, 2014 at 12:36 PM · Report this
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To all the privileged middle and upper class scum who deride #38 and others who make poverty wages I say: Not everyone came from a wealthy family where everything was handed to them - a free high quality education, connections, confidence and security.

To those select few from the lower classes who are able to "rise above" and better their economic situation who then look down on where they came from: Not everyone can so easily sell out their family and friends and adopt the smug, arrogant, fawning and slavish, house n***a attitude required to kiss up to the rich and gain their favor.

Education is becoming increasingly unaffordable and we can't sustain a healthy economy on everyone being a computer programmer or technician. I've seen people come in and out like a revolving door through the community college where I worked because there is no guarantee of gainful employment in your field when you get out of school with lots of debt.

I suggest all underpaid restaurant workers to learn to read the body language of yuppie scum that you serve and you will also be able to feel their condescension and contempt for you. Remember this as you handle their food.

Posted by jwaters on June 5, 2014 at 12:20 PM · Report this
Theodore Gorath 49
@48: Hmm, so there is just too much evidence, and too many studies for you to link to one. I see.

Do you have any evidence that I can not understand or will not read anything you link to? Do you have any evidence that I do not understand basic economics?

Because it looks to me like you are talking out of your ass. Link one reputable study that proves your assertions. It should be so easy, but you can't.

Someone already hired me at over $15 an hour, years ago. What are you babbling about? And by the way, it is "you're stupid," not "your stupid."

Also, when my eight year old niece is caught in a lie she uses basically the same dodge. I think it's cute.
Posted by Theodore Gorath on June 5, 2014 at 12:11 PM · Report this
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@47 I thought you were naive...now I think your just being stupid....or worse.

You don't want evidence.

You won't read it, let alone understand it.

You don't have any basis of understanding economics.

There is no point of trying to carry on a discussion with one who is ignorant to facts, basic economic theories, and studies which abound on the economic effect of increases in the min. wage.

Wait and see if anyone will hire you at $15/hour and then, just maybe then, you'll begin to understand.

Posted by mistral on June 5, 2014 at 11:28 AM · Report this
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@44: If you have so much evidence, why won't you share it? If it is so obvious, why can't you amke a convincing case for it? If it is so well documented, why can't you furnish one link to something reputable?

All you offer is more empty, sky-is-falling rhetoric.

I do find it funny that you claim the person demanding evidence for baseless assertions is naive, and not the person making baseless assertions.
Posted by Theodore Gorath on June 5, 2014 at 11:01 AM · Report this
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@38 I echo @45.

If you are piddling around at min wage waiting for a hand out or thinking ACOLA is your salvation you are doomed.

May I suggest you get off your backside, get an education, improve your skills and "make your own min wage increase" based on self improvement, hard work and industry. It is a method which has worked incredibly well for thousands of years.

As to your employer who you deride for grossing $18 million a year, that doesn't mean its profitable. There is a very distinct difference between gross income and net income.

Invest in a few courses in economics. It might prove useful so you can figure out why you won't have a job in the new socials world order.....because frankly, there won't be any min wage at $15 an hour which I think you'll be qualified.

We'll only be hiring skilled, hard working types from here on out.

Posted by mistral on June 5, 2014 at 9:29 AM · Report this
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@38

Maybe you should just try to get a better job? You live in a city with one of the highest median incomes in the nation and still make minimum wage. That should *really* tell you something about yourself.
Posted by highside on June 5, 2014 at 9:02 AM · Report this
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@40 I think you are just incredibly naive, refuse to see reason or see this in an incredibly simplistic fashion.

No matter, we won't have to wait very long to wait before the effects of this begin to find their into the economy.

I would be truly delighted to see a vibrant economy result from this experiment in social engineer, but I doubt very much that is going to happen.

The results of increasing the min wage beyond 40 to 45% of the mean avg wage is well documented.

Not that you would ever read, take in interest in same or believe the studies produced from Nobel Prize Econ Laureates mind you....but it is their considered opinion based on economic studies repeated time after time.

However, fresh minds, new idea lets be tolerant if not incredibly hopeful.

I prepared to be proved wrong...there is no down side.

However, I suggest you be prepared to be proved wrong as the downside is pretty damn severe for the poor, small businesses and the public in general.

Posted by mistral on June 5, 2014 at 8:57 AM · Report this
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The bourgeois parasitical scum who are complaining up here apparently believe that capitalist economics constitute some sort of natural law - like gravity - and that the poor and working class majority should just continue to grab ankle and accept their plight without a fight.

Workers! Let's keep fighting, and finish the class war that the capitalist 1% and their middle class lackeys started! We can't win unless we are united and this insurrection spreads across the country.

Business owners who refuse to abide by the law must have their personal and business assets seized and control of the business given over to the workers to reorganize as a cooperative enterprise under the protection and auspices of the state and organized labor.
Posted by jwaters on June 5, 2014 at 8:51 AM · Report this
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Kshama and 15 Now are wrong to declare victory. Perhaps a small victory in a long, protracted and bitter class war. The fight, indeed, has only just begun.
Posted by jwaters on June 5, 2014 at 8:34 AM · Report this
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"I cannot wait ten damn years for my wage to rise to 15. "''

Then start your own business, or improve your skills, learn computer science. Don't just be a whiney pussy.
Posted by You make you own bed on June 5, 2014 at 6:35 AM · Report this
Theodore Gorath 40
@22: Haha, it is adorable that you think those articles prove your point.

Half of them are just saying that things "may" happen, and the other half are looking solely at very samll, contained environments like military bases or other countries with extremly different economic realities. One is just a person complaining that a parking fee went up.

Don't worry, with the raise you will be getting, you should be able to save up enough to move out of Seattle in 30 years instead of 40.
Posted by Theodore Gorath on June 5, 2014 at 4:59 AM · Report this
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Keep on simultaneously decrying the fall of American grades while demanding more money.

It will get you to Portland even faster.
Posted by worthless_people_are_worthless on June 4, 2014 at 11:04 PM · Report this
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I cannot wait ten damn years for my wage to rise to 15. Correct me if I'm wrong, but my employer qualifies as a "small business", with 23 stores (22 out of state) and about 180 employees. It does $18 million annually.

Look, had minimum wage kept up with inflation since the law's inception, we'd now make over $21/hr. Add worker gains in productivity, and it rises to 28.

And has a Cost Of Living Allowance (COLA) been conveniently ignored? If so, it won't be long before any wage gains will be eroded by inflation.

It's a sorry beginning.
Posted by fishfeet on June 4, 2014 at 10:39 PM · Report this
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Little miss Piecuch is a worthless piece of shit.
Posted by worthless_people_are_worthless on June 4, 2014 at 7:50 PM · Report this
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Do believe me when I tell you that your lives have, do, and will consist of an unending series of missteps, blunders, faux pas, mistakes, misrepresentations, and your reflections in the mirror.

youtube.com/watch?v=qNqQC7R_Me4

I told you I wasn't fucking kidding.
Posted by worthless_people_are_worthless on June 4, 2014 at 7:36 PM · Report this
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so in the next10-15 years Seattle will be the next Detroit
Posted by socialism has failed on June 4, 2014 at 5:57 PM · Report this
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Enjoy your long life as a career Ivar's employee, Dominic.

Maybe you'll become a supervisor one day!
Posted by worthless_people_are_worthless on June 4, 2014 at 2:50 PM · Report this
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Yeah, I know I misspelled a word. It's 'bloc', not 'block'.

And I know I just made a grammatical error.

And another one. Ad nauseum.

How do you feel?

Maybe you should go spend five years publicly ridiculing every member of my race as a response.

That'd be good.
Posted by worthless_people_are_worthless on June 4, 2014 at 2:28 PM · Report this
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It'd be awe-inspiring to behold the supporters of the Stranger's ill-advised and ill-gained political desires suddenly come to the forefront of the debate with their desire to require degrees for the most menial of tasks if it weren't the most self-defeating set of arguments ever constructed.

For the time being, it's just funny.
Posted by worthless_people_are_worthless on June 4, 2014 at 2:23 PM · Report this
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@25 See. This is the kind of logic that creates "Programmes to Civilise the Negro" and that kind of bullshit. The point is that a CEO has no frame of reference for what the people at the foundation of his organization NEED, but thinks he knows so much more about everything that he doesn't have to actually ASK THEM. Well, now minimum wage workers have basically TOLD him, loudly and clearly, that what they need is a fucking raise. Wages in America have stagnated for decades, but hopefully setting a reasonable price on the value of unskilled labor will propagate "upwards" and stimulate demand (money means buying power), and maybe even allow working-class families to begin accumulating at least a small measure of intergenerational wealth/assets (education, property, and/or modest retirement funds), replacing the niche lost during the collapse of manufacturing with that created during the expansion of service-sector in America. Obviously there is no absolute guarantee that this is a good idea - but we made bigger, deeper changes to this entire country during the huge failure that was neo-liberalism (which is the school of thought that "educated" our previously-mentioned clueless CEO), so maybe a few experiments are what we need to start dismantling that ugly zombie machine and get going on the next big idea.
Posted by ricaroo on June 4, 2014 at 2:14 PM · Report this
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#24, your entire post was completely contradictory.

You think wages will go up because the swing block of underpaid college grads just decided someone who works at fucking Burger King is worth more than them?

You then say that skill doesn't matter to educated people, they simply want to coexist with other sexless, raceless, nothings.

Sooo.. I think that four-year degree will be the deciding factor on whether or not people get jobs where you are.

Like it already is.

Enjoy being worth less.

Rubber ducky, you're the one.
Posted by worthless_people_are_worthless on June 4, 2014 at 2:12 PM · Report this
Cato the Younger Younger 29
@ collectivism sucks: PLEASE leave Seattle sooner if you can?

Thanks
Posted by Cato the Younger Younger on June 4, 2014 at 2:07 PM · Report this
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Did anyone else notice that Kshama Sawant is the ONLY ONE of these people who knows how to make a fist?

They're gonna break their thumbs if they try SMASHING THE STATE like that!
Posted by that's some very dense solidarity right there on June 4, 2014 at 2:06 PM · Report this
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@13: Those "mom-and-pop franchisees" are, in effect, part of enormous businesses. They accept much greater personal risk than a store manager would, but their operations are largely controlled by the franchise organization.
Posted by Phil M http://twitter.com/pmocek on June 4, 2014 at 1:43 PM · Report this
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$15/hr in Detroit would be a king's ransom.

I hope this phenomena spreads!

Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http://_ on June 4, 2014 at 1:08 PM · Report this
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@18
Hate to sound like an asshole but do you really think that adult fast food workers are knowledgeable enough on economics to be making policy decisions like this?

Why the fuck is it that a CEO with an MBA and years of running a giant organization (a corporation) should be ignored when it comes to policy decisions but a barely high school educated burger flipper should be listened to?

This city is idiotic.
Posted by collectivism_sucks on June 4, 2014 at 12:46 PM · Report this
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How this will impact Seattle jobs that currently pay $15/hr is key, and should be of great interest to anyone with a BS/BA degree. That is a typical starting wage for entry-level, professional services support jobs: (paralegal, legal secretary, engineering project assistant, financial services). Working for professionals with degrees - you need to have at least a 4-year degree yourself to even get an interview. I know because I was involved with hiring for such jobs - don't even bother if you have an AA degree or just worked your way up from the bottom: educated people like educated people working for them.

I would imagine that firms that want better employees than those hired by Burger King will have to bump up the entry level to $20+/hr or so. IF this doesn't happen, and wages stagnate, that would be a good indication Seattle is maxed out in terms of applicants with BS/BA degrees. If wages do go up - it would be a good indication of growth, with some inflation to follow.
Posted by AinWA on June 4, 2014 at 12:43 PM · Report this
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The fight isn't over for me for sure: I now need to get out of this city in 11 months because I'm about to be out of a job. At least I have a little more time to get my things together and move out of state or just out of the city. If I had known Seattle was this authoritarian, I would have stayed in Poughkeepsie.

On the bright side, Bellevue will be BOOMING thanks to this. I and most restaurant workers and business owners will be singing this song in a year from now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L09qnRfZ…
Posted by collectivism_sucks on June 4, 2014 at 12:42 PM · Report this
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Mike Smith 21
I live in the city but work just outside the city. I am worried that prices will go up, my wages won't, and I will have to move to some shithole with even fewer transit options (I can't afford a car).
Posted by Mike Smith on June 4, 2014 at 11:29 AM · Report this
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I live in the city but work just outside the city. I am worried that prices will go up and I will have to move to some shithole with even fewer transit options (I can't afford a car).
Posted by Mike Smith on June 4, 2014 at 11:29 AM · Report this
Theodore Gorath 19
@16: Maybe because there is no evidence for any of that, and no historical precedence to think any of it will happen. It is not like this is the first time the minimum wage has been raised.

I know a lot of people think that "It just WILL happen" is a good argument, but it really is not.

Just like I ask everyone making the claims you are making, do you have any evidence? I doubt your answer will surprise me.
Posted by Theodore Gorath on June 4, 2014 at 10:43 AM · Report this
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@13 The reason is that 15 Now has since its inception consisted of a lot of (maybe even a majority of?) workers in the fast food industry. They're really the face of minimum wage workers. It has everything to do with that and really nothing to do with the resources or financial situation of those businesses.
Posted by decidedlyodd on June 4, 2014 at 10:32 AM · Report this
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The most important question for Seattle is whether straight white men should be allowed to receive the minimum wage. They have received so much "white male privilege" over the years...

Posted by unregistered 9182 on June 4, 2014 at 10:32 AM · Report this
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Well this is a "day of days".

It will mark the slow, grinding demise of entrepreneurial spirit, small business job growth and see the rise of unemployment levels for youth, unskilled workers, minorities.

Was the Silly Council really naive enough to believe that a $15 min wage won't be offset by:

a) loss of all manner of employee benefits

b) decrease in federal support for low income

c) loss of jobs as employers cut back on labor

d) loss of spending by businesses in equip and expansion.

e) exodus of business from Seattle to other cities which will welcome small businesses.

....or was the Mayor and Silly Council just focused on a mindless attitude of

I better vote for this because its a popular political flavor of the day.

I swear this city just get more bizarre and hostile to enterprise and small business every year.




Posted by mistral on June 4, 2014 at 10:24 AM · Report this
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@13

You are correct: it is a good question.

The dividing line if you want one should be between profitable or not profitable -- and that is far too complex (maybe illegal?) to administer.

I am pretty sure the City will lose on that one UNLESS it can show that IN FACT franchisor (e.g. McDonald's Corp) is responsible for paying costs of franchisee. Since one point of franchising is for franchisor NOT to have to micro-manage every outlet, I doubt such connection can be shown.
Posted by unregistered 9182 on June 4, 2014 at 10:05 AM · Report this
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@12
What do you mean?
Posted by unregistered 9182 on June 4, 2014 at 9:59 AM · Report this
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I still haven't seen a convincing argument, or any argument really, for lumping mom-and-pop franchisees in with big business. The franchiser company doesn't pay the wages for their franchisees, but for purposes of size classification we pretend they do? I don't get it.
Posted by RDPence on June 4, 2014 at 9:46 AM · Report this
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#4

What happened to the apartment building spree in Seattle?

Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http://_ on June 4, 2014 at 9:41 AM · Report this
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@9
I wouldn't go to the ballot since you'll lose if you try to push further than your magnificent victory. Things just shifted in public psyche after the City Council vote.

And you will lose in court on the franchise issue so get used to it.
Posted by unregistered 9182 on June 4, 2014 at 8:51 AM · Report this
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Now how do we get something similar passed in King County? I think $14/hour would be good across the county, as the cost of living is about 10% higher in Seattle on average than the County on average.
Posted by DJSauvage on June 4, 2014 at 8:48 AM · Report this
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I look forward to the support of small business owners when we fight the Franchise Association to keep the exemption. If they're not up for that, we should go back to the first proposal: No less than $15 for an hour of work, regardless of the size of the employer.
Posted by Phil M http://twitter.com/pmocek on June 4, 2014 at 8:06 AM · Report this
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While the city should certainly do its damn job in terms of outreach and enforcement, helping workers with this could be the kind of outreach that helps change the perception that unions are no longer necessary.
Posted by Unions: More Than Corrupt Relics Of The Past on June 4, 2014 at 8:02 AM · Report this
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You thought that $15 was a "contentious fight"?
That was nothing.

There was widespread agreement in Seattle that poor people deserve a break and easy for people to rationalize by saying "Well I will just eat out less if it gets too expensive."

Smug and self-satisfied, pathetic, to think some huge battle was won.
Posted by unregistered 9182 on June 4, 2014 at 7:56 AM · Report this
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And btw, I FAVOR $15.
Just don't be surprised when things don't turn out exactly as you had hoped.
Posted by unregistered 9182 on June 4, 2014 at 7:43 AM · Report this
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Expect significant influx of people moving to Seattle to get a $15/hr job.
Posted by unregistered 9182 on June 4, 2014 at 7:41 AM · Report this
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Rents will go up.
Posted by unregistered 9182 on June 4, 2014 at 7:40 AM · Report this
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City will lose on the franchise issue.
Posted by unregistered 9182 on June 4, 2014 at 7:39 AM · Report this
Cato the Younger Younger 2
It should be fun watching how Olympia will respond to this. And we all know they will try to do something to kill it if the businesses in Seattle don't do something first.

Now can we talk about affordable housing in Seattle for those of us who make too much to qualify for aid programs but don't make nearly enough to pay $1500 a month in rent?
Posted by Cato the Younger Younger on June 4, 2014 at 6:51 AM · Report this
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Whenever there is a time of plenty, that very fact will increase the population until the Natural Order of starvation and misery is restored.
-Richard Dawkins
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