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TVDinner 1
I had no idea it was that interesting. I do wish, though, that people (including you, Chicago Fan) would quit using that old and offensive convention of saying that a man has children "by" a woman rather than "with" a woman. For some reason it just sounds so dismissive.

But hey, that's me.
Posted by TVDinner http:// on December 27, 2011 at 5:27 PM
Fnarf 2
North Korea has cow enemies?

What it reminds me of is the Soviet Union. The fun old days of guessing who's been naughty or nice in the power struggle by where they are standing in the official photos, that sort of thing. "General Cha Song-Hyok is wearing the large rosette on his RIGHT lapel, which some observers believe indicates a possible alliance with the faction of Ri Yong-Chol, who was standing only two away from Kim Jong-Il at his last known appearance after having been missing entirely from the group when they visited the power plant in February". Pyongyangology.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on December 27, 2011 at 5:29 PM
Fnarf 3
Another fun Kim Jong-Il fact I just learned: he gave "regular tactical advice during matches" to the North Korean football team during the 2010 World Cup "using mobile phones that are not visible to the naked eye" that he himself developed. Hard act to follow, that.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/worl…
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on December 27, 2011 at 5:32 PM
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@ 1 No, "by" is the appropriate word here, given the situation. She was just there to provide an heir.

@Fnarf, c'mon man, "cow" is one of my favorite verbs. Intimidate seemed. . . not Shakespearean enough.
Posted by Chicago Fan on December 27, 2011 at 5:41 PM
Fnarf 5
@4, I know. I just thought "cow enemies" was funny. Not as funny as "cow orkers", but hey.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on December 27, 2011 at 6:10 PM
gloomy gus 6
God, so much to read now. Juicy! Thank you.
Posted by gloomy gus on December 27, 2011 at 6:11 PM
TVDinner 7
@4: Just because that's North Korea's attitude about those women doesn't mean you have to reflect the same prejudice.
Posted by TVDinner http:// on December 27, 2011 at 6:45 PM
despicable me 8
Yuri? That's his real name?

And I love this little tidbit:

It cited Chinese sources which claimed that one cause for the stroke could have been stress brought about by the United States delay to remove North Korea from its list of state sponsors of terrorism.

Of course it was our fault.

If you hadn't posted this, I probably wouldn't have read any of it either, CF. Thanks for the article and links.
Posted by despicable me on December 27, 2011 at 8:25 PM
Supreme Ruler Of The Universe 9
By is appropriate when referring to chattel, so what's the problem?
Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http://www.you-read-it-here-first.com on December 27, 2011 at 9:22 PM
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It's Kim Il-sung, not Kim Sung-il
Posted by Stphn on December 28, 2011 at 3:03 PM

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