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Exactly Dan!! I almost want to throw my new radio on the floor listening to that crap.
Posted by JaxBriggs on January 30, 2012 at 12:04 PM · Report this
Vince 2
I'm more than a little sick of the fucking Vatican interfering in this country's internal affairs. This fucking pope has made a mess of his church and he thinks he can now make a mess of this country-well, fuck him!
Posted by Vince on January 30, 2012 at 12:07 PM · Report this
I don't even see why they should get an exemption on abortion.
Posted by family doc on January 30, 2012 at 12:20 PM · Report this
Knat 4
Dan, it's not ALL Republicans:

The poll, conducted earlier this month, found that support for the legislation clearly breaks down along party lines. Almost two-thirds of Republicans (63 percent) said they wanted the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act repealed, compared to 9 percent of Democrats.

There are a few idiot Dems out there too.
Posted by Knat on January 30, 2012 at 12:25 PM · Report this
I have loathed her for years. This is just another example of the kind of BS she offers by way of "commentary."
Posted by DC Bill on January 30, 2012 at 12:33 PM · Report this
MacCrocodile 6
I want to go buy a radio and break it.

Actually, no. Does anybody have a radio I can borrow? I only need it for a minute.
Posted by MacCrocodile on January 30, 2012 at 12:36 PM · Report this
Eva Hopkins 7
How it's supposed to be is Church - (points to one corner - over *here*, & State - (points to the other corner) - over *there*. But that is neither how things are working, nor have been, for quite some time.

The faithful shouldn't get to both claim tax-exempt status, & then throw their weight behind shaping public policy (see: Prop 8, Mormons). Either go on about the alleged business of churches - the feeding the hungry & caring for the sick & poor - & get out of politics, or pay taxes like everyone else.
Posted by Eva Hopkins on January 30, 2012 at 12:36 PM · Report this
Fred Casely 8
I suppose it's inappropriate and irrelevant to speculate how Mary Martha Corinne Morrison Claiborne Boggs Roberts (Stone Ridge School of the Sacred Heart '60) has managed to produce only two children over the course of her 45-year marriage?
Posted by Fred Casely on January 30, 2012 at 12:41 PM · Report this
Your parents are lucky they had the counsel of a reasonable priest. Imagine if he had said to have as many children as God would allow.
Posted by WestSeven on January 30, 2012 at 12:49 PM · Report this
Phoebe in Wallingford 10
If you are complaining about Cokie Robert's commentary whom you listen to regularly, you obviously enjoy complaining about her commentary because you essentially enjoy her commentary. If you really didn't enjoy her commentary you wouldn't be complaining about it because you wouldn't be listening to her in the first place.
Posted by Phoebe in Wallingford on January 30, 2012 at 12:53 PM · Report this
If conventional wisdom nowadays is republican talking points then that's all you'll get from Cokie and unchallenged at that. The big donors to Public Broadcasting like it that way.

By the way, I turn off NPR the minute she comes on knowing that she will spew her sanctimonious right wing crap and stream a podcast from the progressive radio network.
Posted by neo-realist on January 30, 2012 at 12:55 PM · Report this
Rujax! 12
Is NPR still on?
Posted by Rujax! on January 30, 2012 at 12:57 PM · Report this
piminnowcheez 13
coughing up hairballs of conventional wisdom

This is an excellent way to describe Cokie's job. Every time I hear her speak, I can't believe she gets paid to spout the blandest, most uninspired conventional wisdom as if it were "analysis." And it's entirely the product of her own imagination.

I remember back in the 2004 race, hearing Juan Williams (just another version of Cokie) declare that Howard Dean's gun control stance made him too liberal for the general electorate. Of course, Dean was not, actually, a gun control advocate. But he was anti-(the Iraq) war, therefore must be a big hippie liberal, therefore must be a gun-control advocate. That's how it works: they just make shit up that sounds plausible enough to anyone who's not paying attention.

These people are a pox.
Posted by piminnowcheez on January 30, 2012 at 1:14 PM · Report this
dwightmoodyforgetsthings 14
NPR broadcasts this moronic, misleading/plain wrong material because it's afraid of being seen as biased against conservatives.
Posted by dwightmoodyforgetsthings on January 30, 2012 at 1:16 PM · Report this
undead ayn rand 15
"there must be something in her contract about the hosts not being able to challenge Cokie on facts or stats or reality"

That's what being a pundit means.

@14: "NPR broadcasts this moronic, misleading/plain wrong material because it's afraid of being seen as biased against conservatives."

And because its operators believe that we should be more "inclusive" of the conservative perspective on reality, regardless or not of whether it's grounded in objective reality.
Posted by undead ayn rand on January 30, 2012 at 1:32 PM · Report this
Finally, Dan "I'll excuse any neocon political swine as long as they give lip service to the Gay issues" Savage wakes up to the fact that NPR's Cokie Roberts is a total douchbagging propagandist.

Helloooooooooo, down there, finally smelling the real pure oxygen????????

Yes, NPR is almost totally and completely bulls**t, just like Foxtard, CNN, ABC, CBS and PBS.

Geez, even the Dano can evolve.....
Posted by sgt_doom on January 30, 2012 at 2:30 PM · Report this
and this is the proper way to do a healthcare reform:…

and staff a vet's office properly.
Posted by sgt_doom on January 30, 2012 at 2:36 PM · Report this
undead ayn rand 19
@17: "Finally"

Do you really think that the terribleness of the media is surprising to anyone? It's not like the Prisonplanet crowd is unique in realizing that the corporate media does not represent the people.
Posted by undead ayn rand on January 30, 2012 at 2:39 PM · Report this
We must remember that "so stop taking the money" poses many of the same problems for services provided by the Catholic Church as it does for services provided by Planned Parenthood. When we say "Well why can't they just stop taking the money?" we need to remember the problems that PP would run into: reorganization and scaledown. It works for conservative organizations too.
Posted by DRF on January 30, 2012 at 4:40 PM · Report this
thatsnotright 21
Seventh Day Adventists eschew pork. I wonder how the public would react if SDA church-owned hospitals refused care to bacon-eating people with diet related heart disease?
Posted by thatsnotright on January 30, 2012 at 6:24 PM · Report this
I'll never forget Ms. Cokie's husband Steve Roberts lecturing the Arkansas boy, Will Phillips, who got national attention a few years ago for supporting gay marriage. Roberts unctuously and condescendingly lectured young Phillips about how America is a center-right nation that consistently votes against gay marriage, given the chance.

The implication was that this young boy's courage was foolish and misplaced. Will Phillips came across in the interview as about three times the man Roberts is.

These folks are nothing but shameless shills for whoever happens to have power in society at the moment. They will do anything to serve the powerful, and will never stick their necks out to take a risky stand about anything.

One day, historians will remember and celebrate Will Phillips. Cokie and Steve Roberts will be insignificant footnotes nobody reads.
Posted by wdlindsy on January 31, 2012 at 5:19 AM · Report this
@20 except that's a disingenuous comparison. Planned Parenthood is doing everything by the book. They are following every restriction and law put in place by the government that the government CAN put in place without violating its own rules and regulations. Planned Parenthood doesn't spend a SINGLE CENT of government funds on abortion services. Every abortion service they provide is independently funded by non-government donors. And the government CANNOT deny PP that funding just for providing those services- it would go against Roe v Wade. As long as PP continues as it has been the conservative machine should NOT be allowed to touch their funding. Period.

In the case of these Christian Organizations they are going against the rules put forth for this funding by denying a basic, necessary service. Planned Parenthood does not deny any service. One is denying services, the other is providing more than the necessary services require (with non-government funds). The difference is massive by a legal standpoint.

There are rules against public funding of abortion- thus PP does not use its public funds for this purpose. But it is also against the rules to DENY the access or to not allow the distribution of contraception by those who receive public funds. Under these rules, treated the EXACT same way PP retains their funding and these religious organizations are shit out of luck. As it should be.
Posted by Aedan Robinson on January 31, 2012 at 6:53 AM · Report this
Okay, one important objection: The Mother Jones mag you reference implies that these institutions are only bound by the Health Care Coverage mandate because they take tax dollars. I think this is incorrect. Everyone is required to provide this coverage. Even if Catholic University wasn't accepting any tax dollars, it is still required to provide the coverage, including women's health. There are very narrow exceptions for actual Churches, but otherwise the rule applies to everyone. So it's not really accurate to suggest they have an 'out'. That's why the Catholic heirarchy has their panties in a bunch. Mind you, I disagree with them, but this might explain why they are so upset. No exemptions available to them.
Posted by Kathy23 on January 31, 2012 at 9:12 PM · Report this

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