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very bad homo 1
They must really hate sick people! (And by their logic, I have only a few more months to live. I'll miss you all.)
Posted by very bad homo on January 31, 2012 at 1:04 PM · Report this
Sargon Bighorn 2
Pastor Andrew, sweet heart, come out of the closet. You're fooling no one.
Posted by Sargon Bighorn on January 31, 2012 at 1:08 PM · Report this
Knat 3
Citation needed for every one of those statistics he's using. Those are clearly based on fantasy.
Posted by Knat on January 31, 2012 at 1:11 PM · Report this
undead ayn rand 4
So you can birth more Christian soldiers, they don't care about *you*.
Posted by undead ayn rand on January 31, 2012 at 1:14 PM · Report this
undead ayn rand 5
@3: This is the story he's referring to.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factshe…
Posted by undead ayn rand on January 31, 2012 at 1:16 PM · Report this
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No matter how many times you debunk that Cameron bullshit 42 number, they just keep quoting it. If you need lies to make your point, your point is not valid. The end.
Posted by Sa-Spence on January 31, 2012 at 1:25 PM · Report this
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Who will they have to beat up without teh Gays? Like Homer Simpson said to John Waters: And you took back the word queer! That's our word for making fun of you! We neeeed it!
Posted by Chicago Fan on January 31, 2012 at 1:35 PM · Report this
Garfield 8
This applies to every subculture & minority group in the country. Religious bigots/GOP will work against progress while claiming they want to help and that they're not bigots. What they mean is this: "We love everybody... as long as they talk, act & believe exactly the way we do." That's why they think of themselves as loving, non-racists.

Someone should tell them that being non-racist/non-bigoted means loving people the way they are rather then expecting them to change.
Posted by Garfield on January 31, 2012 at 1:57 PM · Report this
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@1 If gay men only live to 42, I'm thirteen years past my expiration date. See you in the afterlife! I'll be the one in the lavender t-shirt.
Posted by Clayton on January 31, 2012 at 2:03 PM · Report this
rob! 10
Pastor Steven Andrew: o-face while praying; god will love you more.
Posted by rob! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZBdUceCL5U on January 31, 2012 at 2:11 PM · Report this
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The Joe.My.God post has to do with a Christian boycott of Starbucks because of its support of marriage equality. To show support, please go to the Starbucks corporate website, click on the "contact us" link at the bottom of the page, and send Starbucks a thank you for their stand.
Posted by Clayton on January 31, 2012 at 2:20 PM · Report this
Knat 12
Ah, he's using factual data, just playing fast and loose with the facts they represent. Thank you, UAR.
Posted by Knat on January 31, 2012 at 2:24 PM · Report this
porkfish66 13
If pastor stevie were to flip back a few pages in the bible, he would find Leviticus 11:9-12

9These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.

10And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:

11They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.

12Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.

Mebbe he should boycott Red Lobster too :P
Posted by porkfish66 on January 31, 2012 at 2:50 PM · Report this
Megaera 15
No. No, I don't think they actually do want us to live long and healthy lives. I think what they are doing here is trying to use us to prove a religious point: that 'the wages of sin is death'. Literally. If we would only stop sinning and be washed clean of our sins, we would have longer lives. So they believe.

They want to belabour this point to keep their own gay people frightened and closeted. I honestly believe that a lot of unloving people remain nominally 'Christian' simply because they are afraid of burning in hell for eternity. It's a tried and tested means of getting people to toe the religious line. This is just an extension of that policy.
Posted by Megaera on January 31, 2012 at 3:31 PM · Report this
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I can't speak for Dan, but I can safely say I haven't been in Utah years and have no plans to go anytime soon.
Posted by Clayton on January 31, 2012 at 3:31 PM · Report this
Geni 17
Long, healthy, and miserable in your repression, just like them. It validates their own miserable fucking existences, you see.
Posted by Geni on January 31, 2012 at 3:56 PM · Report this
venomlash 18
@14, 16: One of my best friends is going to school in Utah. He's made a few Mormon friends, apparently.
Posted by venomlash on January 31, 2012 at 4:09 PM · Report this
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Indeed, Dan, that sounds contradictory, doesn't it?

It's just like the claim that gays will eventually all burn in hell, but that's not enough suffering, so we also have to bully them in this life. I never understood that, but, to some people, that seems to make sense.
Posted by ankylosaur on January 31, 2012 at 4:31 PM · Report this
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I think I'll post a video response of me enjoying a nice Matcha latte to his youtube site. Really drive the point home, you know?
Posted by blahcula on January 31, 2012 at 5:07 PM · Report this
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Who's taking bets that Steven Andrew won't last a week without getting his Cinnamon Dolce Crème Frappuccino fix? Or will he break under the pressure of a latte? What a fucking piece of work this guy is.
Posted by ndattn on January 31, 2012 at 9:52 PM · Report this
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@22

And please do talk to me about Africa now. We're talking 30% of the population HIV+ in some places. Most of them women (monogamous wives) and children. Are they sinners too? Or does God hate black people in addition to gays?

Dumbassmutherfucker.
Posted by Confluence on January 31, 2012 at 10:10 PM · Report this
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And, again. If HIV infection rates determine who god approves of, or rejects, then lesbians are the chosen people. Their "lifestyle" leads to the lowest.
Posted by randomitis on January 31, 2012 at 10:47 PM · Report this
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@25, Yep! Conservatives don't realize that aids is really god's way of saying he's into lesbians...
Posted by ankylosaur on January 31, 2012 at 11:50 PM · Report this
Mike 27
The lifespan argument always makes me laugh. It's countered with a simple thought exercise. Assume that scientists discovered that "the average homosexual" dies at age 142. Would these people then turn around and announce that straight marriages should be nullified? Would they go gay for the health benefits? Of course not, because a) average lifespan is a terrible argument for making policy, b) sexual orientation isn't something you choose, and c) science has no real bearing in their thinking anyway.
Posted by Mike on January 31, 2012 at 11:50 PM · Report this
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@30, well, they can (just had a couple visit us). And they have less AIDS. How come you're not saying we should all be lesbians, praise the Lord? :-)
Posted by ankylosaur on February 1, 2012 at 3:05 PM · Report this
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@29,

(a) though indeed a factor, lifespan isn't decisive -- or else we should all be living in the mountains between Georgia and Azerbaijan and eating goat cheese;

(b) the science disagrees with you -- since another study from the AAP(+WHO) has disproved your counter-claim (take-home lesson: wait for the consensus...)

(c) no, he's merely pointing out that most people don't really use science for their choices... since most people in this world don't understand it well enough; if you have stats about people knowing science that show the opposite, I'd like to see them :-)
Posted by ankylosaur on February 1, 2012 at 3:11 PM · Report this
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@28, ah, so you don't believe in sinners? Good to know! :-)
Posted by ankylosaur on February 1, 2012 at 3:12 PM · Report this
venomlash 35
@34: There is no proven cause of homosexuality, biological or otherwise. The evidence we have suggests that the cause is biological in nature, however, due to the deep-seated physiological differences in homosexual and heterosexual brain structure. You don't understand how science processes and handles ideas, do you.
Also, the CDC's idea of a responsible sexual lifestyle is wrapping your shaft and getting tested regularly. Dan and pretty much every other sex advice columnist recommend similar.
Finally, women have a longer lifespan than men. You've been trying to argue against homosexuality, but all you've done is make the case that we should all be lesbians.
Posted by venomlash on February 1, 2012 at 6:43 PM · Report this
gromm 37
They don't actually care about your well-being. All they want is proof that being gay is evil. And if they have to close one eye, hop on one foot, and say "oogaboogadingdong" while flapping their arms to see it, they will.
Posted by gromm on February 1, 2012 at 8:45 PM · Report this
venomlash 38
@36: With regard to the delightful Ms. Nixon:
She remarked in 2007: "In terms of sexual orientation I don't really feel I've changed... I'd been with men all my life, and I'd never fallen in love with a woman. But when I did, it didn't seem so strange. I'm just a woman in love with another woman." She has since identified herself as bisexual.
Now if you'll look here, you'll see that the CDC recommends abstinence or monogamy as a way to prevent STD transmission, and secondarily recommends vaccination (when applicable) and condoms. Dan pointed out that hiding the sausage in unusual places is a foolproof way to prevent pregnancy, not STDs. You're talking apples and oranges here, and I don't even know how they got involved in a discussion of responsible sex.
And as far as monogamish relationships go, your definition of cheating is a bit odd. What is cheating? Cheating is breaking the rules, in a very broad sense. What are the rules of a sexual/romantic relationship? Why, the ones we make for each other. My rule for my girlfriend (a bischmexual) is that she is free to see other women (but not other men) so long as she's safe and lets me know. So if she does so, whose rules are she breaking? Yours? Are you trying to make rules for other people's relationships?
What leads to high rates of HIV infection is being uninformed. Since Teh Ghey has so long been swept under the rug, it has historically been very difficult for people to learn how to have safe gay sex. But 20% rates of HIV? Where the fuck are you getting that number? The CDC's statistics suggest a rate of maybe 5%, as I've pointed out on many an occasion.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to go look seriously at some lesbian things.
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Posted by venomlash on February 2, 2012 at 2:00 PM · Report this
Gerald Fnord 39
In response to Comment #19:
Why make life Hell for people who are going to go there anyway? It's an especially tricky issue for those who believe in predestination, as most evangelical Protestants do, but here is what I think it is:

* Bully people enough, and they might change their minds---and remember, these people think that gay people can change over, or at least be celibate.
* For those who believe in faith&works-based salvation, bullying might provide an incentive not to do that which would in fact send them to Hell.
* 'People doing Bad Things' causes fires, floods, earthquakes, and terrorism because 1.) either this is a law of Nature or 2.) They make God remove his Gardol (r) Shield from America; in either event, it means that other persons have a very practical interest in no-one else's doing those Bad Things.
*'People doing Bad Things' and _not_ living bad lives sends the wrong message----«Dans ce pays il est bon de tuer de temps en temps un amiral pour encourager les autres.» It also means that anyone doing these Bad Things and not suffering thereby is a Lying Fact, just like those fossils.
*Some might interpret the charge to spread the Gospel continually and everywhere to be a call to promote all the ideas associated with their particular version of Christianity.
*Lots of people live very frustrating and unsatisfying lives, especially many male primates all-too-aware that they're not alphas, and having people they can feel good about hurting---people you can act toward in ways normally accounted 'bad', but toward whom doing such in fact make you an even GOODER Good Guy---is really handy. (See: Good Guys' torturing Bad Guys.)

Posted by Gerald Fnord on February 3, 2012 at 11:52 AM · Report this

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