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Lisa Brown Says Budget Will Be Done Soon, Opposes Sticking It to Rural Counties
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well, it's not east vs. west. there's plenty of small government idiots between olympia & fort vancouver. and north of everett. and on the peninsula.
it sucks being in the party with a conscience.
it sucks being in the party with a conscience.
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Fuck 'em. Let them try a taste of their own "YOYO" (You're On Your Own) policies and see how far it gets them. Seriously, just pull yourselves up by your bootstraps. Nobody ever got ahead by just having something handed to them.
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@1 hit the nail on the head - "it sucks being in the party with a conscience."
If the shoe were on the other foot, there's no way the conservatives would hesitate to cut the lifeline and let Puegtopolis sink and drown.
If the shoe were on the other foot, there's no way the conservatives would hesitate to cut the lifeline and let Puegtopolis sink and drown.
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Careful now, urban liberals recreate in our rural beauty and should expect that social services to be on par for the workers that wait on them.
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Look the only reason cities have more money is because you are tied into the Federal printing press. It is not like some guy going to a cuble is actually more valuable to society at large than someone who grows food or drives a truck, it is because the Rotton Urbs milk the system the pay "more taxes" and the crow about it.
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You know, not everyone in the rural areas is a foaming at the mouth tea shithead. And, last time I checked, the urban areas had no shortage of "small government (unless wombs or genitals are involved)" conservatives.
The answer to Sarah Palin's brand of "us vs. them" or "deserving real americans vs undeserving poor people" is not to play the same game in reverse. And if you are one of those "benefits for me, but not for them" assholes, I have no time for you, no matter what your political persuasion. And while you may moan about how your tax dollars are going to help ungrateful ruralites, I can goddamn guarantee that you have many more resources available in the urban areas than are available in the rural areas.
I live in a rural area. I work in a job where I try to make people understand on the local level what needs to be done to relive some of the effects of economic injustice. I vote, even though the most liberal of my choices is usually far to the right of where I think we need to be. I am not the enemy. And someday when you aren't too busy judging my neighbors to actually talk to them, you may discover that their goals and hopes and dreams are not that different than yours and that you can work with them to accomplish shared goals. Amazing, that.
This division game does not benefit anyone but the elites that are pissing down all our backs.
The answer to Sarah Palin's brand of "us vs. them" or "deserving real americans vs undeserving poor people" is not to play the same game in reverse. And if you are one of those "benefits for me, but not for them" assholes, I have no time for you, no matter what your political persuasion. And while you may moan about how your tax dollars are going to help ungrateful ruralites, I can goddamn guarantee that you have many more resources available in the urban areas than are available in the rural areas.
I live in a rural area. I work in a job where I try to make people understand on the local level what needs to be done to relive some of the effects of economic injustice. I vote, even though the most liberal of my choices is usually far to the right of where I think we need to be. I am not the enemy. And someday when you aren't too busy judging my neighbors to actually talk to them, you may discover that their goals and hopes and dreams are not that different than yours and that you can work with them to accomplish shared goals. Amazing, that.
This division game does not benefit anyone but the elites that are pissing down all our backs.
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@9
If people from rural areas have " goals and hopes and dreams are not that different" from those of people in the urban areas, then why do they keep electing representatives who, for the most part, are racist homophobic tea-baggers?
Did you LISTEN to the floor speeches when Marriage Equality was passed? Sure, Maureen Walsh got a lot of buzz - but only because she was the most eloquent exception to the rule of who represents rural Washington.
And watch TVW when there's a Ways & Means hearing. Elected officials from rural WA not only belittle the idea of reforming our revenue system so that we can drag this states finances into the 21st century, they actually ask why people who want the state to collect more taxes don't just voluntarily write a check themselves.
Your 'neighbors' elect people who complain about 'socialism,' and then turn around and complain about the idea of eliminating levy equalization that transfers money from the urban areas to the rural areas.
If people from rural areas have " goals and hopes and dreams are not that different" from those of people in the urban areas, then why do they keep electing representatives who, for the most part, are racist homophobic tea-baggers?
Did you LISTEN to the floor speeches when Marriage Equality was passed? Sure, Maureen Walsh got a lot of buzz - but only because she was the most eloquent exception to the rule of who represents rural Washington.
And watch TVW when there's a Ways & Means hearing. Elected officials from rural WA not only belittle the idea of reforming our revenue system so that we can drag this states finances into the 21st century, they actually ask why people who want the state to collect more taxes don't just voluntarily write a check themselves.
Your 'neighbors' elect people who complain about 'socialism,' and then turn around and complain about the idea of eliminating levy equalization that transfers money from the urban areas to the rural areas.
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@9
You're not crazy, statistics back up your observations, and then some.
Recent studies have found that the poor vote strongly Democratic everywhere, in red states and blue, in rich counties and in poor counties.
In fact, in red counties, the poor are slightly more likely to vote Democrat than they are in blue counties.
What tips rich counties&mdash and rich states— to the blue side of the voting spectrum is that rich people in poorer red states and counties are much more likely to vote Republican than rich people in wealthier, bluer counties and states.
But the pernicious myth of gap-toothed rural bigots "voting against their interest" is persistent, as we can sadly see from political coverage at The Stranger.
The people tipping the vote to republicans in poor counties aren't voting against their interest, because the voters who behave differently in those areas are the rich ones.
You're not crazy, statistics back up your observations, and then some.
Recent studies have found that the poor vote strongly Democratic everywhere, in red states and blue, in rich counties and in poor counties.
In fact, in red counties, the poor are slightly more likely to vote Democrat than they are in blue counties.
What tips rich counties&mdash and rich states— to the blue side of the voting spectrum is that rich people in poorer red states and counties are much more likely to vote Republican than rich people in wealthier, bluer counties and states.
But the pernicious myth of gap-toothed rural bigots "voting against their interest" is persistent, as we can sadly see from political coverage at The Stranger.
The people tipping the vote to republicans in poor counties aren't voting against their interest, because the voters who behave differently in those areas are the rich ones.
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