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tainte 1
how hard is it to make yourself a cup of coffee?
Posted by tainte on March 23, 2012 at 9:11 AM
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How hard is it for a kid or a parent to pull a box of cereal off of a kitchen shelf and eat breakfast??? Talk about lazy.
Posted by neo-realist on March 23, 2012 at 9:15 AM
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@ 1 FTW, Seriously Goldy is this really something to complain about?
Posted by Seattle14 on March 23, 2012 at 9:16 AM
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They're there to celebrate the epic smackdown of NOM yesterday!
Posted by drwas on March 23, 2012 at 9:17 AM
sikandro 5
I think the real problem is that Goldy is hanging out in West Seattle.
Posted by sikandro on March 23, 2012 at 9:19 AM
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I second @1 ftw. You made my day, tainte.
Posted by David from Chicago on March 23, 2012 at 9:22 AM
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Starbucks vaguely Parisian? Puhleeeze!
Posted by Pcoddin on March 23, 2012 at 9:32 AM
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@tainte

Making espresso at home without a commercial machine is actually quite hard. Now whether Starbucks pulls a quality shot is another debate.
Posted by arbeck http://www.facebook.com/arbeck on March 23, 2012 at 9:32 AM
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Yeah, but if they toast their kid's bagel for them, then their kid won't have that Starbucks label to wave around in the other kids' faces, and then mom will be a laughing stock.

Won't somebody think of the lazy mothers?
Posted by suddenlyorcas on March 23, 2012 at 9:38 AM
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@8: No, it isn't. It's all a matter of reading the manual and following the directions. All you're paying the barista for is convenience.
Posted by suddenlyorcas on March 23, 2012 at 9:39 AM
Goldy 11
@5: Neither Starbucks nor West Seattle are my usual hangouts, but I'm meeting somebody here for an interview, and didn't see a good reason to either head home or head to the office after dropping my daughter off at school.

FYI, usually I'm a tea drinker.
Posted by Goldy on March 23, 2012 at 9:39 AM
easternstar 12
I think it's a bonding experience. I wish I could take my kid to Starbucks for breakfast.

On the other hand, I live nowhere near a Starbucks, however in light of yesterday's NOM call to action, I am now sipping a Starbucks frappuccino coffee drink (Mocha) that I bought at the gas station on my way to work this morning!
Posted by easternstar on March 23, 2012 at 9:47 AM
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This is why we all have no money! We'll spend $5 or more for a breakfast that would cost about $1 to make ourselves.
Posted by ams_ on March 23, 2012 at 9:49 AM
camlux 14
It's a treat to supplement breakfast. About once a week I take my daughter to Sbux after breakfast and before her preschool begins. We each have our hot drink and hang out on the leather couch. It's pretty cool.
Posted by camlux on March 23, 2012 at 9:51 AM
Allyn 15
If I want to treat myself to a coffee, it’d be pretty churlish of me to make my kids sit there and watch me drink my fancy drink.

My mom takes my kids to Sbux every Friday and gets them a disgusting pile of sugar and fat and a cup of chemically-altered milk to nibble on while she relaxes and drinks her coffee.
Posted by Allyn on March 23, 2012 at 9:56 AM
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Hey, at least those kids are getting breakfast. Too many kids end up getting shoved out the door in the morning with nothing. Or maybe they grab a soda on the way out. I can think of a lot of worse morning routines.
Posted by SeattleKim on March 23, 2012 at 9:57 AM
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@suddenlyorcas

Most home espresso machines do not make very good espresso. This is a well known fact. To make espresso at home that approaches the quality of what you get from a good pro machine you're going to be spending $500-$2000 on a machine. This machine (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/zpme…) caused a huge stir simply by getting a price under $500. Not only is their cost involved, you have to store the damn thing.

If you just want a cup of coffee all you need is good beans, a burr grinder, and a french press. But once you start talking about espresso based drinks, doing it at home is hard.
Posted by arbeck http://www.facebook.com/arbeck on March 23, 2012 at 9:57 AM
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Oh so judgy. Sometimes you run out of bagels. And cereal is full of every bit as much sugar as anything you're going to get at Sbx. And sometimes, you just want to have a moment with your kid when you're not getting things for them/ordering them to get something for themselves and/or cleaning up after all of the above. Sometimes it's a treat. Sometimes its the only moment of the morning when the two of you can stand together as people and, you know, hang. STFU judgy hipsters.
Posted by ScreenName on March 23, 2012 at 10:00 AM
Supreme Ruler Of The Universe 19

Waiting for plane to Denver. A two or three year old boy stood in front of where I was sitting.

Like a pony with a feedbag on, he was holding a Venti SB cup in both hands, containing a whipped drink, and nursing through a straw.
Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http://www.you-read-it-here-first.com on March 23, 2012 at 10:07 AM
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@12, If there is a healthy parent and kid relationship, who needs to put money in Starbucks coffers to enhance it?

@13, exactly

@15, I'd start to worry about your kids physical profile and health if your mom keeps that up.

@16, shoving them out the door w/o breakfest is irresponsible parenting and borderline child abuse, but a bowl of high fiber cereal would do just fine.
Posted by neo-realist on March 23, 2012 at 10:07 AM
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@9 - hey buddy, go fuck yourself. Fucking misogynist.
Posted by bllllllllllllllllllllllllll on March 23, 2012 at 10:10 AM
the duster 22
@5 Seriously. I think there's an ordinance that requires 2-3 critters that run monstrously through California Ave. to live in West Seattle.
Posted by the duster on March 23, 2012 at 10:12 AM
Allyn 23
@20 Oh, I do. I tell myself that it's only once a week, but then their dad gives them corndogs for dinner. And then my mom will buy them gogurts. And then we have group dinner once a week that's terribly unhealthy with dessert.

So on the few occasions that I am in control of a meal, it's generally veggies and kidney beans and yams.

My going back to work will be the death of my children.
Posted by Allyn on March 23, 2012 at 10:13 AM
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(watching as Goldy veers into the curmudgeon lane)
I've upped my spend at SBUX since NOM is about to call for a fatwa against the siren. Because we can't rest until NOM loses.
Posted by jackseattle on March 23, 2012 at 10:18 AM
orino 25
The Broadway Fred Meyer in Portland sold peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for a buck and a half while I was living there.

My baby-boomer peers have mostly done a piss-poor of imparting life skills to their offspring...
Posted by orino http://www.scootinoldskool.com on March 23, 2012 at 10:27 AM
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@ 13 I think people who go there are the ones with disposable incomes
Posted by Seattle14 on March 23, 2012 at 10:27 AM
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@17, yup, a machine that pulls quality shots is beyond my means. I suppose I could drop my $2.50 a day into a jar and go without and in just a few years I could get that tankless machine, stagnant water makes nasty coffee, dumping and refilling daily is wasteful, I really want.

My toddlers come to my local, independently owned, play area with train table with me all the time. I'm teaching them the smug self-satisfaction of enjoying rituals, relaxation and community.

Posted by BornAgainInBellevue on March 23, 2012 at 10:36 AM
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haha. 15 years ago, i used to take my toddler to "fancy cocoa" on fridays if he went the WHOLE week without biting anybody. seriously.

as the parent of "the biter", i was willing to shell out $5 once a week as a bribe. looking back, it was crazy.. BUT it worked.
Posted by go bulldogs on March 23, 2012 at 10:38 AM
Vince 29
There are so many stories these days of parents starving their child as a punishment, I'm perfectly o.k. with Starbucks. Besides, we all should be a little supportive of our hometown bus. now that they have stood up to NOM and support equal marriage.
Posted by Vince on March 23, 2012 at 10:52 AM
AmyC 30
@13 - it costs $1.50 to get a big canister of oatmeal, which makes approximately 13,000 servings. toss in a couple raisins and walnuts and you have, literally, the best breakfast out there (nutritionally). even with the extras on top, it's probably only about a $.25 per meal. without the walnuts, it's probably closer to a nickel.
Posted by AmyC on March 23, 2012 at 11:06 AM
Rotten666 31
Cause you never took your kid out to breakfast, right? You fucking schmuck.
Posted by Rotten666 on March 23, 2012 at 11:13 AM
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Dear friends,

We use aeropress in our house to make terrific Espresso like shots. It costs around 25 dollars, and while I like iced vanilla lattes, and my wife enjoys straight shots, I'm sure there are economical ways to heat milk. Xoxoxo
Posted by Gremlin next door on March 23, 2012 at 11:18 AM
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@Gremlin

The Aeropress is a fancy french press. It makes a great cup of coffee, but it can't really make espresso. It might make something that is closer to espresso than a cheap home machine, but a real espresso machine requires very well regulated heat and pressure.
Posted by arbeck http://www.facebook.com/arbeck on March 23, 2012 at 11:25 AM
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Like none of you have ever skipped breakfast at home and bought a bagel and coffee at a coffee shop. The self-righteousness on display here is fucking mind-blowing.

@30,

13,000? You must eat very small portions of oatmeal.
Posted by keshmeshi on March 23, 2012 at 11:48 AM
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@17: You sound like you've never even tried one of those machines. I have one at home, cost less than $100 and my coffee tastes much better than swill I'd be spending $5 a cup for elsewhere. It's all a matter of taking the time to learn your machine.
Posted by suddenlyorcas on March 23, 2012 at 12:01 PM
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@35: And reading the manual helps too. You might pull two or three bad cups before you figure out your machine, but you'll figure it out. Unless you're so afraid of failure you wouldn't even try, that is.
Posted by suddenlyorcas on March 23, 2012 at 12:05 PM
JonnoN 37
middle class tax cuts -> bagels -> more Starbuckses.
Posted by JonnoN on March 23, 2012 at 12:27 PM
biffp 38
They have oatmeal, and anything is better than McDonald's.
Posted by biffp on March 23, 2012 at 12:30 PM
Fnarf 39
Maybe the parents take their kids to Starbucks because they like it? What business is it of yours? I don't understand this post or the comments.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on March 23, 2012 at 1:04 PM
Irena 40
Seems to me your response to this question kinda depends on whether you're imagining mom #1 or mom #2 here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERp0WV-q1…
Posted by Irena on March 23, 2012 at 1:16 PM
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My parents used to take us to Dunkin Donuts once a week when I was a kid. It was awesome. They made us meals most of the time, not that it was anyone else's freaking business.
Posted by virginia mason on March 23, 2012 at 2:01 PM
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A real bagel? Are there even any in Seattle?
Posted by Brooklyn Reader on March 23, 2012 at 2:02 PM
the duster 43
@42 Really? You're gonna be that guy/girl? Apparently, everything I've ever consumed in Seattle is fake (save coffee).
Posted by the duster on March 23, 2012 at 2:44 PM
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Nothing like judging the choices a parent makes. Goldy I am sure there are choices that you make that another parent would look down upon. Don't be that guy.
Posted by holier than thou on March 23, 2012 at 3:16 PM
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Lighten up, Goldy. It's an occasional treat for a lot of parents, and Starbucks are everywhere and usually can support more seating than the better shops. When my kiddo was little, we'd often do breakfast at the Java Bean in Ballard because we could go a little off-rush hour and find a seat most times. Now we do the same thing at the Sbux near her morning care because it is close and we know we can sit down.

I really don't think it is about laziness for the majority of the parents you are seeing.
Posted by JimJewell on March 23, 2012 at 3:43 PM
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Amen @18 and all kind folks who are giving parents a break. Goldy, don't you have kids? When children are involved, sometimes the seemingly simple things can be REALLY FUCKING HARD!!
Posted by JeniPeep on March 23, 2012 at 3:47 PM
Free Lunch 47
I'm guessing you were at the Starbucks in Admiral. That place is like a fucking daycare all day long, with parents just letting their kids run around, yell, and spill shit everywhere. (You should see the messes they leave behind.) Apparently they are under the impression that actually correcting obnoxious behavior stifles creativity, or some such bullshit.

To me, it just seems low class.
Posted by Free Lunch on March 23, 2012 at 6:47 PM
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I just crawled out from under my rock. Please, what is NOM?
Posted by MrB on March 23, 2012 at 10:59 PM
watchout5 49
You got problems if you're taking your kid to a corporate coffee chain that charges $5 for a single drink on a daily or even weekly basis. Caffeine addiction is a really big deal and I think the government should tax it more.
Posted by watchout5 http://www.overclockeddrama.com on March 25, 2012 at 10:25 PM
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Good work validating the cafe-frequenting, coffee-drinking, liberal-elite stereotype.

Any Jew knows there isn't a decent fucking bagel to be had in Seattle anyways.
Posted by Central Scrutinizer on March 26, 2012 at 1:24 PM

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