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"Laws exist to keep the poor from eating the rich."
Posted by SweetDarkLord on April 5, 2012 at 1:18 PM · Report this
Sargon Bighorn 2
With out Rich people: No Saint Basil's, No Taj Mahal, No Ankor Wat, No Great Wall, No Hermitage, No Pyramids of Egypt and Mexico and Central America, No Great Master works of art commissioned by Rich people, No great cuisine to please the delicate palates of the rich. No public works like the Colosseum in Rome and the Roman roads and Aqua-duct which still stand. No frescoes of Pompeii, No King Tut-Ank-Ahmun. I think Rich people add something to the human family. Not all rich people are evil.
Posted by Sargon Bighorn on April 5, 2012 at 1:22 PM · Report this
john t 3
Think of all the slave labor that it took to get those Wonders of the World monuments built. Fuck that shit, I'd rather have a job and health insurance than a Taj Mahal or another goddamn Damien Hirst "masterpiece".
Posted by john t on April 5, 2012 at 1:25 PM · Report this
Phoebe in Wallingford 4
How can one still be alive after being cooked?
Posted by Phoebe in Wallingford on April 5, 2012 at 1:25 PM · Report this
"To serve man"

It's the least they can do, but I'm afraid there's way too much fat in them.
Posted by Anastasia Beaverhausen on April 5, 2012 at 1:26 PM · Report this
#4: al dente

Posted by Anastasia Beaverhausen on April 5, 2012 at 1:27 PM · Report this
Yeah, peace through the application of fear. That usually works, right?
Posted by gloomy gus on April 5, 2012 at 1:28 PM · Report this
@4 Just sear like good tuna
Posted by wl on April 5, 2012 at 1:29 PM · Report this
Posted by djx on April 5, 2012 at 1:31 PM · Report this
Sargon Bighorn 10
#3 you ASSUME it was slave labor. In many cases it was devotional volunteer time given by the people. Assuming the worst at every turn does MORE to harm the human family. It's like "profiling" some one because you don't like them. STOP profiling people you don't like and PRESTO the world becomes a better place for everyone.
Posted by Sargon Bighorn on April 5, 2012 at 1:32 PM · Report this
Actually, I'm pretty sure they already think that. If you imagine most Republicans lying in their bed at night sweating in terror that mobs of poor people are going to come and take their stuff (and presumably eat them after that), Republican ideology makes a lot more sense.
Posted by Halcyonic on April 5, 2012 at 1:41 PM · Report this
Will in Seattle 12
Everything is better with BBQ sauce.
Posted by Will in Seattle on April 5, 2012 at 1:46 PM · Report this
Beetlecat 13
@2 Aqueducts? Say what? You're mixing a lot of engineering and construction and cultural metaphors there.
Posted by Beetlecat on April 5, 2012 at 1:48 PM · Report this
Gurldoggie 14
What are you shooting your mouth off about @10? You're telling us that Roman labor was done by...volunteers?!? How illiterate do you think we are? No civilization in history owned so many slaves and depended on them so much as the Romans. Everything we think of as Roman culture -farms, roads, skilled labor, aqueducts- ALL OF IT was built by slaves and owned by wealthy people. All of whom deserved to be cooked and eaten.

Historical revisionism doesn't actually change history you know.
Posted by Gurldoggie on April 5, 2012 at 1:50 PM · Report this
Gurldoggie 15
And let us know if you want to get started on the loving people who gave "devotional volunteer time" to build the Great Wall. Fool.
Posted by Gurldoggie on April 5, 2012 at 1:53 PM · Report this
Hernandez 16
@4 - I suppose you could just cook part of them, while leaving the rest of the body in its normal state. Surely some parts must be tastier than others, and other parts undesirable for consumption. I once watched a youtube video of people doing something like this with a fish in China.
Posted by Hernandez on April 5, 2012 at 1:54 PM · Report this
Paul Constant 17
@4: Thank you for asking that. I was wondering the same thing.
Posted by Paul Constant http:// on April 5, 2012 at 1:56 PM · Report this
Gerald Fnord 18
Comment 7, 'gloomy gus':

Well, the rich and powerful have never been shy about keeping the rest of us in fear. True, let them fear too much and they lower the boom, but too low and they believe that we in fact were born with saddles and they with spurs.

I'd rather that fear didn't work with primates, but it's part of how primate bands do their amazingly effective stuff---it's not all, there's also mutual concern (real or notional grooming) but the world in fact largely runs on fear.

Civilisation, pacem Robert Howard, is superior to barbarism precisely because sources of fear are fewer and more mystified---it's much the way that people who don't slaughter the animals they eat, or at least watch it happen periodically, are hypocrites (like me) but also harder to train to slaughter humans.

Anything that decreases the general level of fear is better for all but our masters; this is why we will continue to have the jobs/money system long after we're technically competent enough to not need it---it's so much damn fun for the ones at the top to be less afraid than we.
Posted by Gerald Fnord on April 5, 2012 at 2:05 PM · Report this
@18, sounds to me like a yearning to rearrange the deck chairs.
Posted by gloomy gus on April 5, 2012 at 2:15 PM · Report this
Gerald Fnord 20
I am a master of bricolage, and so able to rearrange deck chairs...into a crude but serviceable raft.
Posted by Gerald Fnord on April 5, 2012 at 2:25 PM · Report this
ScrawnyKayaker 21
You go, Gurl!
Posted by ScrawnyKayaker on April 5, 2012 at 2:30 PM · Report this
SPG 22
@2, Without the oppression by the powerful, how many more great minds would have had the opportunity to flourish and give even more to society? You see some nice stuff left over as the byproduct of a long dead ego and immeasurable suffering, I see a massive squandering of potential.
Posted by SPG on April 5, 2012 at 4:03 PM · Report this
spaceapple 23
That really doesn't sound like a vision of a peaceful world.
Posted by spaceapple on April 5, 2012 at 4:17 PM · Report this
Dougsf 25
@4 - The same way this sort of thing would bring on an "abject" form of fear, I suppose. It's possible, but probably not really what the author meant.

Or what #6 said.

If our only two choices are either a plutocracy, or to placate the mob, well... then shit sucks.
Posted by Dougsf on April 5, 2012 at 4:26 PM · Report this
Some Old Nobodaddy Logged In 26
@2 Thanks for the insightful comment on apples.

However, I think the letter you're responding to was about oranges.
Posted by Some Old Nobodaddy Logged In on April 5, 2012 at 4:57 PM · Report this
keshmeshi 27
In many cases it was devotional volunteer time given by the people

If you want to make big bucks, submit your application to Fox News tout de suite. This comment alone will get you an anchor job, right next to Megyn "Pepper spray is just a food product essentially" Kelly.
Posted by keshmeshi on April 5, 2012 at 4:58 PM · Report this
Greg 28
@3: The Pyramids were built by professionals, not slaves. Just wanted to make sure that was put straight.
Posted by Greg on April 5, 2012 at 10:31 PM · Report this
I can't believe nobody's thought of this:

They say music is the food of love.
Let's see if you're hungry enough.
Take a bite, take another,
Just like a good boy would.
Get a sweet thing on the side.
Home cooking, homicide.
Side order, could be your daughter.
Finger licking good.

Come on baby, eat the rich,
Put the bite on the son of a bitch,
Don't mess up, don't you give me no switch.
C'mon baby and eat the rich.
C'mon baby and eat the rich.

Motörhead forever!
Posted by floater on April 5, 2012 at 11:05 PM · Report this
raggeddog 30
So is it cooked alive or eaten alive? I'm confused.
Posted by raggeddog on April 6, 2012 at 7:23 AM · Report this
I have to disagree with Leland on this. If the rich and powerful remain rich and powerful they will just build up powerful private armies to protect their tender delicious flesh. You have to remove their wealth and power to really have peace.

@2 "No great cuisine to please the delicate palates of the rich"
Actually, in my experience, most truly great cultural cuisines are based on poor people trying to figure out how to feed themselves with little money.
Escargot - Hungry poor people figure out how to make slug on the halfshell palatable. Now it's high cuisine.
Curry and other strong Indian spices - A way for the poor to cover up the fact that a lot of their food was spoiled castoffs.
Haggis - Poor people figuring out how to make the garbage leftover after feeding the rich into food.
Hamburgers & sausages - Just cheap cuts of meat and fat mixed together for the poor.

I could go on. I've always found that most quintessential cultural cuisines are just poor people food. Mmmmmm
Posted by Root on April 6, 2012 at 1:32 PM · Report this
Barbara Tee 32
SOME of the great cultural artifacts of the past, were built with slave labor.

SOME of the great cultural artifacts of the past, were built by "devotional volunteers"; for example, religious buildings and artifacts often were community efforts attended with great enthusiasm. Stonehenge, maybe, Cathedrals, there is even evidence that raising the Pyramids {designed to keep workers busy in the "off season" when they weren't needed for agriculture} was accompanied by enthusiasm and singing, not by whips as depicted in Hollywood epics.

MANY of the cultural artifacts of the past, WERE built by "Professionals" extremely proud of their work; Hellenistic and Roman engineers, Architects of all ages, makers of large-scale sculptures and Earth mounds, Masons, high-steel workers who built the original Chicago and Manhattan skyscrapers, etc. etc.

Some of these workers were enslaved, some were wage-"slaves", some were free contractors and businesspeople.... well-paid, poorly paid, or not paid, recognized or working anonymously.....
so everybody's right, and everybody's wrong. History isn't just one kind of cliche'.

Rich people were often the patrons and sponsors of the arts, but that doesn't deny that these artifacts ALSO could be Community Efforts, expressing a group's religious, cultural, nationalistic, or other "ideals". And that these sponsorships by the wealthy, DID enhance people's lives who weren't wealthy, including our own. Theater, Art, an interesting and usable Urban Environment, is potentially good for EVERYBODY.

The Rich people NOW, are getting out of hand, they want ALL Earth's resources for themselves, inside their gated communities, they know that Environmental Devastation and Disaster is REAL and they are trying to save themselves while the rest of us can go starve and die..... TITANIC is a parable for our times...... that's why it resonates so much.....
The Rich want to hog the few inadequate Life Rafts......
Posted by Barbara Tee on April 6, 2012 at 6:05 PM · Report this

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