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Hockey Update: The Canucks and the Penguins Could Get Swept Tonight and Raffi Torres Has Been Suspended Indefinitely
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Glad that asshole got a suspension, and I hope it's for the rest of the playoffs. As bad as Webber's headslamming was, this was magnitudes worse. At least Hossa got to go home last night.
I doubt Vancouver will let themselves be swept, but they're going one-and-done this year.
I doubt Vancouver will let themselves be swept, but they're going one-and-done this year.
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Quite frankly, I'm surprised to see shit like this happening in the playoffs. It's a display of incredibly poor discipline, and I place a lot of blame on the coaches for failure to control their players.
It's Hockey 101: don't take stupid, cheap penalties during the playoffs. We learn this when we're just kids. You should be playing your most disciplined, hardest, and cleanest hockey during the postseason. Power plays and suspensions hurt your team.
It's Hockey 101: don't take stupid, cheap penalties during the playoffs. We learn this when we're just kids. You should be playing your most disciplined, hardest, and cleanest hockey during the postseason. Power plays and suspensions hurt your team.
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@ 3, based on some of the things I've read over the years, this is the result of things like the instigator penalty which, some will say, neutered the enforcer and allows pests to target skill players with impunity. I don't know how true that is, but last night played out like the textbook example given by the people who believe this argument. Torres wasn't penalized, but Hossa's teammate who went after him was, and given a game misconduct to boot.
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why am I not surprised that this post had no mention of shea weber face slamming hank zetterberg in to the boards. weber should have been suspended instead of just a measly fine. I guess if the preds do it, then it's cool. Really if you're going to be a fan boy for one team you should state it at the beginning of every hockey-related post.
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So much stupid* violence and hate! Seriously, never seen it like this before. I like intensity and passion in the playoffs but prefer seeing that manifest in speed and skill and effort.
*I'd rather see a face to face fight break out, than any of these dumb ass cheap shots and dangerous hits.
Some consistency with the punishments being handed down might help...but who knows. It's been a strange first week.
*I'd rather see a face to face fight break out, than any of these dumb ass cheap shots and dangerous hits.
Some consistency with the punishments being handed down might help...but who knows. It's been a strange first week.
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Right in front of a ref, too. Either very stupid, or in such a homicidal rage he just didn't give a shit. Or possibly both.
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I'm surprised that Schenn got up from that cross check to the neck/face by Asham.
The NHL needs to sit down and seriously figure out how to control the excessive disrespect and violence in the sport, with the hitting to the head region in particular, otherwise with the way things are accelerating, a player is going to get killed.
That being said, I think if the Flyers end their series in 4,5 games with minimal injuries, and continue to play at this level more or less with all four lines contributing offense and Bryzgalov getting into a better place confidence wise and making big saves, I think they'll win the cup.
The NHL needs to sit down and seriously figure out how to control the excessive disrespect and violence in the sport, with the hitting to the head region in particular, otherwise with the way things are accelerating, a player is going to get killed.
That being said, I think if the Flyers end their series in 4,5 games with minimal injuries, and continue to play at this level more or less with all four lines contributing offense and Bryzgalov getting into a better place confidence wise and making big saves, I think they'll win the cup.
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As much as it pains me to say it, the Flyers have outclassed the Pens this series. Fleury has been lousy, and the defense in front of him even worse. And Crosby...I don't even know what to say. That move with the glove was really childish.
I'll still pull for the Pens tonight, but I can honestly say that if they lose tonight, they deserve it.
Oh, and I think that, if the Pens want to put their money where their mouths are, they will suspend Asham for games beyond what they league already imposed, assuming they don't get rid of him in the off season.
I'll still pull for the Pens tonight, but I can honestly say that if they lose tonight, they deserve it.
Oh, and I think that, if the Pens want to put their money where their mouths are, they will suspend Asham for games beyond what they league already imposed, assuming they don't get rid of him in the off season.
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The NHL could all but eliminate deliberate blows to the head if they really wanted it. If suspensions happened every single time (regardless of whether the head shot caused an injury) and started at 2 weeks (yes, even in the playoffs), went up sharply from there for repeat offenders and particularly flagrent offenses, and came along with a 2-week suspension for the coach every time one of his players gets suspended for a head shot, then poof! they would be gone in a hurry.
The fact that the NHL has not done this obvious thing is an indication that they do not actually want to eliminate head-hunting, only control and manage it.
The fact that the NHL has not done this obvious thing is an indication that they do not actually want to eliminate head-hunting, only control and manage it.
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Megan, it'd be nice to see some mention of the other series in the playoffs... ie Bruins vs Capitols. There are fans (of both teams) around here, you know!
Sad face.
Sad face.
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I missed last night's kerfluffles as I was with David Schmader watching his version of Showgirls. (Great work DS). However, I have been really saddened by all of the overt violence that has gone on during this year's playoffs. In recent years, the playoffs marked the end of fighting, and the start of getting down to nitty gritty hockey. This year has been a total zoo. It is too bad some really great hockey has been marred by unnecessary hits and dirty play. I'd much rather see the fist fights than the head shots during play. Lets hope the rest of the playoffs are cleaner than these first games.
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If I'm a Yotes fan, I'd happily trade a suspended Torres for an injured Hossa. Sad and cynical truth, yes, but truth.
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@ 12 - yes, exactly. Torres is a dirty piece of shit, but this is at least the sixth time he's done something like this in the last year - he hit Eberle in the head at the end of last season, got suspended 4 games, and immediately came back and immediately did the same to Seabrook and didn't get anything. This season, he elbowed Andrew Ference and didn't suffer at all, beyond getting his head beaten by Adam McQuaid, and then elbowed Jan Hejda for a 2500 fine before jumping into Nate Prosser's face for a 2 game suspension, with those hits all in about a week of each other, and now this. 5 really shitty, dirty hits, and he's suspended for 6 games, which is what Sean Avery got for what he said about Elisha Cuthbert.
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I think the efforts to turn hockey into a european-style game are troubling. Cheap shots are not called for, especially leaving your feet. However, it is important to remember that removing players is part of the game.
My high school team went from a 3-20 record playing like little children, to a record of 17-6 with no major roster changes..just got a coach from the canadian minor leagues who taught us how to play tough. we paid a price: accumulated 178 stiches between us and I still hold a state record for penalty minutes for a goaltender. But we were dominant and terrifying.
My high school team went from a 3-20 record playing like little children, to a record of 17-6 with no major roster changes..just got a coach from the canadian minor leagues who taught us how to play tough. we paid a price: accumulated 178 stiches between us and I still hold a state record for penalty minutes for a goaltender. But we were dominant and terrifying.
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Echoing Sheryl's sentiments @11. I'm a devoted Penguins fan, but their behavior in Game 3 was an embarrassment. I caught Pittsburgh Post-Gazette columnist Ron Cook on one of the ESPN channels the other day, and he was ashamed of the violence by Neal and Asham, especially considering that their owner, Mario Lemieux, has been a leader in trying to take the thuggishness out of the game.
Writing this after the Penguins-Flyers game tonight. Nice to see the Pens come to life, and nice to see the refs have so little tolerance for nonsense.
Also, Looking For a Better Read has a sad but true point @15. Let's hope Hossa plays again in the series because deliberate cheap shots like that strike at the integrity of the game.
Writing this after the Penguins-Flyers game tonight. Nice to see the Pens come to life, and nice to see the refs have so little tolerance for nonsense.
Also, Looking For a Better Read has a sad but true point @15. Let's hope Hossa plays again in the series because deliberate cheap shots like that strike at the integrity of the game.
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@ #18. Wrong. My kid plays AAA. You do NOT remove a player, stupid, you SEPARATE a player from the puck.
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