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Vince 1
The Jesus is always popping up, I expected he would be the VP choice.
Posted by Vince on April 19, 2012 at 12:32 PM · Report this
pfffter 2
But he keeps adamantly stating that he would turn down the VP pick.
Posted by pfffter on April 19, 2012 at 12:40 PM · Report this
Fnarf 3
The problem with Rubio is, his support is exclusively in the Miami Cuban community, which is already 100% Republican. All other Latinos hate him, both in Florida and out. He adds exactly nothing to the ticket. Plus, he's got some factual problems with his biography; like all Republicans, and possibly all Floridians, he can't tell the truth under any circumstances.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on April 19, 2012 at 1:04 PM · Report this
Bub 4
Isn't leaving Mormonism a significant folly in the religion? Maybe VP Marco Rubio's leaving would cause Mitt Romney to lose a portion of the Mormon vote!

On another note, the best reason Rubio would have for accepting the VP nomination is that it would put him Next In Line for the 2016 Presidential nomination. The GOP seems to follow a predictable process in choosing their nominees.
Posted by Bub on April 19, 2012 at 1:14 PM · Report this
Will in Seattle 5
Face it, Cuban "refugees" think they're special.

They're not. They're just illegal immigrants treated as if they were not illegal.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on April 19, 2012 at 1:42 PM · Report this
Fnarf 6
@4, being Veep doesn't do much for your chances at the presidency. Only Bush Sr. moved straight into that job, and he couldn't win reelection. Ford doesn't count, because he stumbled into the job when his boss resigned; he was never elected to it. That boss, Nixon, was a veep, but lost his first try at the top job -- and later was also unable to complete his second term because he was a crook. Before that, Coolidge became president when his president died. Teddy Roosevelt, same thing. Chester Arthur, same thing. How far back are we going here?

So going back 150 years we have one sitting Republican Vice President being elected President. Actually it's worse than that; before Bush Sr., the last sitting Vice President for ANY party to be elected President was Martin Van Buren in 1836. Before that, there are only two -- our first two VPs, Adams and Jefferson, both of whom date from before VPs came from the same party as P.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on April 19, 2012 at 1:55 PM · Report this
Reverse Polarity 7
As was pointed out yesterday, it isn't the popular vote, it is the electoral college. Most polls I've seen indicate Florida could possibly be in play. It is probably the state with the most electoral votes that ins't a sure thing (CA & NY will inevitably vote Obama; TX will vote Romney). Florida has to be a hugely tempting target for Romney. If he thinks he could milk a Florida victory out of picking Rubio for VP (one poll notwithstanding), I can see that as a real possibility. If things get close, Florida could very well be a make or break state for either party.
Posted by Reverse Polarity on April 19, 2012 at 2:09 PM · Report this
Joe Szilagyi 8
Don't forget Rubio's credit card scandal.

U.S. Senate candidate Marco Rubio charged grocery bills, repairs to the family minivan and purchases from a wine store less than a mile from his West Miami home to the Republican Party of Florida while he was speaker of the Florida House, according to records obtained by the St. Petersburg Times/Miami Herald.


http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/le…

Add in that two Mormons on the ballot will look great to Christians. Yep, sure thing.
Posted by Joe Szilagyi on April 19, 2012 at 2:53 PM · Report this
Max Solomon 9
Note that "Romney" is not in this post title, therefore, no Paid Gay 4 Rmoney.
Posted by Max Solomon on April 19, 2012 at 3:38 PM · Report this
Sir Vic 10
@6 He wasn't talking about winning the election, just putting himself in the driver's seat for the 2016 nomination. That's the dynamic @4 was referring to. Nominees, not victors.
Posted by Sir Vic on April 19, 2012 at 3:59 PM · Report this
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My understanding is that Rubio is constitutionally unqualified to be President, and by implication cannot therefore be Vice-President: If Romney were to be injured or even put under general anesthetic for surgery, Rubio cannot step in to become acting president.
Posted by TechBear on April 19, 2012 at 4:41 PM · Report this
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I want to see Rubio's long-form birth certificate.
Posted by floater on April 19, 2012 at 5:15 PM · Report this
Fnarf 13
@11, Rubio was born in Miami.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on April 19, 2012 at 6:09 PM · Report this
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@13 - Of parents who were both Cuban citizens when he was born. That fact also means that, under Cuban law, he holds Cuban citizenship by virtue of having been born of at least one Cuban citizen. According to most constitutional scholars -- and a whole lot of screeching by the Republicans for the last several years -- he is not eligible to hold the office President because A) he was not born of two American citizens and B) he holds dual citizenship.

The principle duty of the Vice President to serve as acting president any time the President cannot fulfil that duty: Cheney, Gore and even Quayle held the reins of power temporarily while Vice President when the President was incapacitated due to general anasthesia for medical procedures. Because Rubio is barred from holding the Presidency, he cannot be handed the Presidency even temporarily. Unable to fulfil even the most fundamental of the duties of Vice President, the legal consensus is that he is constitutionally banned from being Vice President.

Not that Republicans give a rat's ass about the Constitution or the law.
Posted by TechBear on April 20, 2012 at 10:30 AM · Report this
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A poll taken by the Miami paper showed that Rmoney did 5 points WORSE in Florida with Rubio on the ticket than without him!

Ol Willard can't win. Rubio does not help him in FL and the magic underpants thing hurts him if both halves of the ticket wear them.
Posted by frankdawg on April 20, 2012 at 12:07 PM · Report this
Free Lunch 16
@14 - You are required to have two US citizen parents ONLY if you are born abroad.

Even a baby whose parents are both illegal immigrants can be president once it reaches 35 as long as it was born on US soil. I don't know of any scholar that says otherwise, since every SCOTUS case on the issue thus far has confirmed that the key phrase "natural-born Citizen" in Article Two simply means "born here."

I also can't imagine anyone considered to be a scholar would claim that dual citizenship would disqualify one from US citizenship. Again, every Supreme Court case on it has found it has no bearing, with one caveat:

There is some question when the second country of citizenship deems that to be a citizen in its country, one must denounce citizenship in every other country. SCOTUS said that such a policy disqualifies you, but a more recent 2nd Circuit ruling said that there "must be proof of a specific intent to relinquish United States citizenship before an act of foreign naturalization or oath of loyalty to another sovereign can result in the expatriation of an American citizen."
Posted by Free Lunch on April 20, 2012 at 7:39 PM · Report this
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What about all the ignoring of Obama and his right to be president. I am not a "birther," however it would be interesting to find out why the President has a Connecticut Social Security Number and he was not born in, no ever lived in Connecticut. So why are you questioning Marco's birth credentials? Also, why hasn't anyone really vetted the fact that he used drugs and alcohol in college?

Posted by Sondra Moylan on May 19, 2012 at 10:42 AM · Report this
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What about all the ignoring of Obama and his right to be president. I am not a "birther," however it would be interesting to find out why the President has a Connecticut Social Security Number and he was not born in, no ever lived in Connecticut. So why are you questioning Marco's birth credentials? Also, why hasn't anyone really vetted the fact that he used drugs and alcohol in college?

Posted by Sondra Moylan on May 19, 2012 at 10:46 AM · Report this

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