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...and Dan Savage wins the internets. Touché.
Posted by doubtroub on April 30, 2012 at 3:03 PM
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Personally, I’d have told him not to get his panties in a knot.

But that probably would’ve gone over his not too bright head.
Posted by sall on April 30, 2012 at 3:04 PM
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn 3
It was so kind not to tell him how gay he is until after his deployment. He's got enough to worry about.
Posted by Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn http://youtu.be/zu-akdyxpUc on April 30, 2012 at 3:05 PM
--MC 4
H'm, somebody saw "Ed Wood" over the weekend.
Posted by --MC on April 30, 2012 at 3:12 PM
Vince 5
Touching sweetness(speeches on the other hand...).
Posted by Vince on April 30, 2012 at 3:14 PM
6
I'm Larry David and I enjoy wearing women's panties.
Posted by Jizzlobber on April 30, 2012 at 3:20 PM
seandr 7
Why is your kink a straight guy's thing? Because wearing women's panties is transgressive...

That could be it.

Another explanation - some straight guys fantasize about being desired in the same focused, intense, "objectifying", visual way that men often desire women. I've heard women say that turning men on can itself be a turn on, and perhaps some part of this guy wants in on that experience.
By wearing women's panties, he can pretend he's the sexy provocative vixen he fantasizes about being.

For gay guys, the "male gaze" is in abundant supply, so not much requirement for feminine props.
Posted by seandr on April 30, 2012 at 3:26 PM
sirkowski 8
Isn't it uncomfortable? I imagine there's no place for the ballsack.
Posted by sirkowski http://www.missdynamite.com on April 30, 2012 at 3:26 PM
Allyn 9
Somebody address sirkowski's question @8 please. I need to know this answer.

(can't google it at work, imagine that would get me fired...)
Posted by Allyn on April 30, 2012 at 3:33 PM
MarkyMark 10
Dan just gave him the "Get out of Gay free" card.
Posted by MarkyMark on April 30, 2012 at 3:34 PM
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I would've thought if he was going to the trouble of wearing women's panties, he would pick crotchless lacy black or red or something. White cotton? Pfft. Would anyone even notice?
Posted by FeralTurnip on April 30, 2012 at 3:37 PM
Lissa 12
@ 7: I dunno. I think your theory would make more sense if he habitually wore what would conventionally be considered "sexy panties" but it sounds like he's sticking pretty much to white cotton granny pants. But who knows?
Posted by Lissa on April 30, 2012 at 3:40 PM
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@9: Just googled "men wearing panties". NSFW obviously! Plenty of photos of men successfully wearing panties. Guess it depends partly on the fit and stretchiness of the ones chosen...
Posted by FeralTurnip on April 30, 2012 at 3:44 PM
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@8 Depends on the panties. Some are too small to comfortably hold things in place.

I usually find bikini and thong panties are wonderful. Boy shorts, ironically enough, typically don't provide enough coverage.

YMMV, and since panties are as far I go, I've never needed to worry about the tucking issue.

There are panties made specifically for men and they're cut to accommodate the hardware.
Posted by Wearing panties right now on April 30, 2012 at 3:48 PM
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When I played Frank-N-Furter they worked pretty well for me.
Yeah, straight.
Posted by Sifu http://www.sifumark.com on April 30, 2012 at 3:51 PM
seandr 16
@9: Probably depends on the individual's scrotal configuration. In the back of my underwear drawer is a pair of calvin klein men's bikini briefs that haven't seen much action because they leave me feeling scrunched.
Posted by seandr on April 30, 2012 at 3:54 PM
undead ayn rand 17
@4: "H'm, somebody saw "Ed Wood" over the weekend."

My thoughts exactly. I wonder if formulating letters to a Sex Columnist is a kink in itself.
Posted by undead ayn rand on April 30, 2012 at 4:08 PM
Allyn 18
thanks, guys, for all the information. I can continue my day happy now.
Posted by Allyn on April 30, 2012 at 4:08 PM
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For some reason Dan failed to remember that the Holy Bible specifically forbids men and women from wearing the clothing God intended for the opposite sex. That's a shame---now he'll have to change his entire answer!
Posted by Gerald Fnord on April 30, 2012 at 4:11 PM
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No one cares what kind of underwear you wear, dude. They really really don't. I like to consider myself fairly open-minded, and I just did a mental inventory of all my friends and family. And I have concluded that, with the exception of my partner, I really don't care, nor would I enjoy knowing, what kind of underwear they wear - especially if they wear it because it turns them on. This isn't a kink you have to be 'out' about.
Posted by R.Taylor on April 30, 2012 at 4:12 PM
Vince 21
@13 Hmmmm. I found a new hobby!
Posted by Vince on April 30, 2012 at 4:12 PM
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Why would anyone want to tell "everyone" what kind of underwear they have on? Is that part of the kink? I'm confused.

Also, I'm concerned for OT's safety if by "everyone" he means telling the men and women he serves with. Yes, DADT is over but that's not the same as all parts of the military being safe spaces.
Posted by Sailoreic on April 30, 2012 at 4:14 PM
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@19: Also must make sure they are not mixed-fiber!
Posted by FeralTurnip on April 30, 2012 at 4:20 PM
secretagent 24
No, no, no, Dan. You missed a great opportunity to emphasize kink manners.

Your panties are a "need to know" sort of item. If someone does not NEED to know, you don't talk about them. Not because you're ashamed, but because it's inappropriate. Wildly.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that this is his kink. He is sexually excited by the idea of telling people.
**Using unsuspecting and uninvolved people for your sexual gratification is ethically reprehensible. Wrong in the wrongest way.**

Kink is cool. Non-consensually talking about your sex life with others is WAY NOT COOL. And I say this as a proudly kinky slut. I am out to my friends and lovers. But I don't bust out with my lovely filthy life to those who don't want to know. My mom, my coworkers, my boss, my dentist - they don't care to know, and even though it is a happy part of my life and sexual identity, I don't get to wave that in their face for my own thrill. If you transgress socially in this way, prepare to be fired, shunned, ignored and gossiped about.

*Obviously doesn't apply to orientation issues. No one should have to hide who they date/love.

He does *not* need to keep it a secret if it's just the kind of panties he wears and he doesn't mind telling people to fuck off if they give him shit. If it's no big deal, if it's not a sexual thing, then just wear them and if someone sees them and asks, just tell them they're your preference.
Posted by secretagent on April 30, 2012 at 4:48 PM
mtnlion 25
It's nice to read a softball question after all that shit.

p.s. Guy never once mentions its a kink. Sure it can be implied, but Dan is actually the only one who mentioned the sexual aspect of it. Wearing women's panties *every day* since age 20 is a kink? It sounds more like a decision based on preference, much like I prefer boyshorts to assfloss. Plain cotton panties barely screams "kink!" I guess the age he started at suggests something, but... okay okay okay I need some help Sloggers.

When you wear something all day (diapers, panties, chastity belt) in your normal functions, are you experiencing constant turn-onedness? Does it fluctuate? Is it just going home and knowing you/your partner's been wearing it all day? How do you exercise joyful kinkiness when the object at hand is ever-present, around others, in nonsexual activities? I guess that's why I think this is far more benign than the LW is making it: he likes panties because maybe they're sexy to him, but also because they're his underwear of choice.

Posted by mtnlion on April 30, 2012 at 5:17 PM
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A kink is like a penis. Only the people who want to have sex with you care about it, so you shouldn't shove it down anyone else's throat.
Posted by Optimal Cynic on April 30, 2012 at 5:18 PM
mtnlion 27
And I'm also with 24 on this. I don't think he should tell other people about his panties because that's weird and if someone just straight up told me about their panties... well, I would probably giggle and not think too much of it, but I think a lot of people would be made verrrry uncomfortable.
Posted by mtnlion on April 30, 2012 at 5:21 PM
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Geez, Dan, mentioning cross-dressing and amputee kinks in the same blog -- don't you know that can get you killed?
Posted by Alice Dreger http://www.alicedreger.com on April 30, 2012 at 5:27 PM
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AND you missed an opportunity for him to send/post pics!!!! Bad Dan Bad!
Posted by echovic on April 30, 2012 at 5:33 PM
30
"Ok, thanks. Food for thought." seems like a pretty blasé response to such a thoughtful and complete answer to his question.
Posted by SpaceGiant on April 30, 2012 at 5:36 PM
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@24: I can think of reasons your dentist may be interested in your sex life. TMJ issues, for instance.
Posted by Ben on April 30, 2012 at 6:21 PM
mikethehammer 32
He should start wearing the panties on the outside of his pants. But still not tell anyone.
Posted by mikethehammer on April 30, 2012 at 6:34 PM
hamish108 33
I have often thought that wearing the underwear of the opposite sex may have something to do with wrapping your junk in something that normally wraps the junk of the opposite sex. So he's got a vaj wrapper all over his privates. Actually sounds kinda interesting....
Posted by hamish108 on April 30, 2012 at 6:36 PM
Oh Suzanna 34
@26 FTW, @32 in close second.

@23: what part of "cotton" don't you understand? Obviously he specified the fiber composition to clear up exactly which biblical rules he respects!
Posted by Oh Suzanna on April 30, 2012 at 6:52 PM
Lilliable 35
WRONG! I wear nothing but white cotton panties, but the waistband is always cotton and elastic. Do not go to heaven. Do not collect $200.
Posted by Lilliable on April 30, 2012 at 8:19 PM
secretagent 36
@Ben/31 - My ENT did tell me I have a displaced jaw joint, closely followed by my chiropractor unwittingly confirming the same thing, same day. "Hmmmm..." I say to myself. "Wonder why?"
Posted by secretagent on April 30, 2012 at 9:10 PM
NOP_Spinster 37
Most of our big sellers to our pre-op mtf transgender clientele are women's briefs. They have more room than the other varieties.
Posted by NOP_Spinster on April 30, 2012 at 9:12 PM
Soupytwist 38
@32 - YES.
Posted by Soupytwist http://twitter.com/katherinesmith on April 30, 2012 at 9:14 PM
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Dan,

I agree with you that people who want to be out about their kinks or their sexual orientations or relationship dynamics that aren't obvious to the world should 'come out' and that this will help dispell the societal assumptions and myths of default heterosexuality, monogamy, etc., but you've also mentioned before that some people have a right to not know about another person's sexual activities and proclivities, and that people have a right to not be unwittingly included in someone else's sexual behaviour.

The writer says about his cotton panties, 'Sometimes I want to show people them...' Who exactly is he talking about here? His friends? Co-workers? (I can't help but think of a four year-old girl in a cute little dress, pulling up the front of the skirt to show strangers her adorable panties.) I think that people who aren't going to see his underwear in the course of daily life have a right to not know about his yawn-inducing 'sexually transgressive' choice in knickers, and to force people to know so that he can get his thrills isn't transgressive - it's simply aggressive and rude.
Posted by ignatz ratzkywatzky on April 30, 2012 at 9:58 PM
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@36: "My ENT did tell me I have a displaced jaw joint, closely followed by my chiropractor unwittingly confirming the same thing, same day. "Hmmmm..." I say to myself. "Wonder why?""

Well, perhaps you should stop shtupping your medical technicians.

(seriously, what on earth does a Chiropractor have to do with your jaw?)
Posted by i mean really nau on April 30, 2012 at 10:11 PM
shuvoff 41
@8 & OP

Xdress.com
NSFW
Panties pretty enough for a lady, but built for a man.
Posted by shuvoff on April 30, 2012 at 10:48 PM
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A male friend of mine likes to wear women's bikini panties because he finds them more comfortable than men's underwear.

No kink just a preference based on comfyness.
Posted by migrationist on April 30, 2012 at 11:25 PM
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@24 for the best answer
Posted by freshnycman on May 1, 2012 at 6:25 AM
TheLando 44
I'm with all the need to know folks (20, 22, 24 ...). Your fun sexy game you're playing in your head is just that: a fun sexy game that should stay in your head. "Everyone" doesn't need to know this is happening, just like "everyone" doesn't need to know other details of your sex life. Wear your panties, have a good time, but if I was one of the "everyone" you told, I would have serious doubts about your judgment.
Posted by TheLando on May 1, 2012 at 7:54 AM
Theodore Gorath 45
I love it when Dan has to reassure straight guys that they are indeed straight.

It is just so...CUTE.
Posted by Theodore Gorath on May 1, 2012 at 8:18 AM
long-time reader 46
Yes, you're gay. Now go suck some peen.
Posted by long-time reader on May 1, 2012 at 10:27 AM
lewlew 47
Chances are good that noshing on this "food for thought" will take all the charge out of this fun. Once he understands the inner dynamic, the outer expression will fade... Is that good or bad? No.
Posted by lewlew on May 1, 2012 at 10:30 AM
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OT - I'll take your old panties. ;-)
Posted by The fag on May 1, 2012 at 10:55 AM
debug 49
Is 'straight' equivalent to 'heterosexual'?

I thought 'straight' was more a general term for a vanilla heterosexual (although what's considered 'vanilla' has expanded over time).

Seems to me the answer is that he's not gay but also not exactly 'straight' with his kink.

Also, I agree with #24. For the most part I'm not interested in my acquaintances sexual preferences or kinks and would rather they kept it to themselves and the people they're intimate with.
Posted by debug on May 1, 2012 at 11:15 AM
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@24 Makes some very good points. Dan should have responded:

Guys who wear women's underwear are almost always straight. Do you want to suck a bunch of dicks? If your answer is no, then you're straight, and have a pretty common straight guy kink. The thrill is probably related to breaking gender norms and having a sexy secret.

If it is a relief and/or a thrill to tell people about this kink, go ahead, but limit your sharing to people who know you pretty well--and be aware that some of the people you share this with will probably be thinking "why are you telling me this?" even if they respond in a supportive manner.

Do not tell 'everyone.' It is inappropriate and impolite to share the exact details of your kinks with large numbers of casual acquaintances, distant cousins, and co-workers, most of whom probably don't want to know and/or don't really care.

Posted by Functional Atheist on May 1, 2012 at 11:43 AM
Canadian Nurse 51
@49: I've only ever heard straight=heterosexual. Definitely know several kinksters who identify as straight.
Posted by Canadian Nurse on May 1, 2012 at 5:17 PM
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@8: As a trans woman, this is pretty easy once ya know how. The penis goes straight back between the legs, the testes can be pushed up into the abdominal cavity.
Posted by Djuna on May 1, 2012 at 7:08 PM
secretagent 53
Merriam-Webster dictionary: "(1) : exhibiting no deviation from what is established or accepted as usual, normal, or proper : conventional; also : square 5f (2) : not using or under the influence of drugs or alcohol". That's how I use it. Sexuality in my circle isn't usually so defined.
Posted by secretagent on May 2, 2012 at 10:53 AM

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