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@6, according to the cops, of course. Of course, they may have simply spotted a closed 3 inch blade in the guy's hand.
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@ 4, 5 - Stale, tired, old, supremely unfunny, horse been dead and gone a while now... And yet you keep b(l)eating....
A white SUV.. Haven't they been looking for a suspect white SUV in a shooting recently? Hhmmm..
Great action shot!
A white SUV.. Haven't they been looking for a suspect white SUV in a shooting recently? Hhmmm..
Great action shot!
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Been there, car matching the description of mine ran aDUI checkpoint....after they dug my wallet from my prone body they told me to drive carefully home.
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It was eerie. 4 people arrested, about 6 unmarked cars and twice as many plainclothes cops. Never seen that many guns drawn--handguns, a shotgun, a couple two-handed fast-looking somethings. Egads. Jackets said "Gang Unit", and I've never seen that much white hair on that many of them.
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This is probably for a violent criminal or suspect they have been looking for. My guess is that it is a suspect in a homicide. There is nothing police-statey about this. Go to Kandahar if you want to see a police state. Seattle in no way represents even the most tame of police states. Christ, gimme a fucking break, up in arms for the cops doing their jobs, yet every one of you critics would be up in arms every time a crime happens and isn't solved in an instant. Without these cops our city would be like the wild west. They are doing their job, this is their job. For fuck sake. I too can be highly critical of the police, but I do recognize that they are absolutely necessary. You people have no idea how good you have it hear in the US. Truly pathetic, cry cry, moan moan, bitch bitch. But what have you done for your country? I'll wager that you have done absolutely nothing.
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@15,
"There is nothing police-statey about this."
Yes there is.
"Go to Kandahar if you want to see a police state."
No thanks, we can just sit here and look out the window.
"every one of you critics would be up in arms every time a crime happens and isn't solved in an instant."
Um, no.
"Without these cops our city would be like the wild west."
What? No it wouldn't.
"I do recognize that they are absolutely necessary"
Good cops, maybe. But our cops aren't good cops. Being necessary isn't an excuse for being corrupt assholes.
"But what have you done for your country?"
WTF are you talking about now? The cops don't do anything 'for their country.' Every time I take a shit I do more 'for my country' than they do in a day's work.
In short, you're wrong. Why don't you move to Kandahar if you love the police state so much?
"There is nothing police-statey about this."
Yes there is.
"Go to Kandahar if you want to see a police state."
No thanks, we can just sit here and look out the window.
"every one of you critics would be up in arms every time a crime happens and isn't solved in an instant."
Um, no.
"Without these cops our city would be like the wild west."
What? No it wouldn't.
"I do recognize that they are absolutely necessary"
Good cops, maybe. But our cops aren't good cops. Being necessary isn't an excuse for being corrupt assholes.
"But what have you done for your country?"
WTF are you talking about now? The cops don't do anything 'for their country.' Every time I take a shit I do more 'for my country' than they do in a day's work.
In short, you're wrong. Why don't you move to Kandahar if you love the police state so much?
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@16, posting conservative 'bullshit' with 'unnecessary' quotes with 'childish' right-wing portmanteaus is what makes middle class 'white' people feel like 'patriots.'
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@18
Diatribe warning!
Arguing with you is like arguing with a brick wall. You've already made up your mind, and at least a brick wall holds things together, which I am quite sure is something that you are not doing. Happy people don't look at the world with such scorn. What happened to you? Daddy didn't love you? Mommy hit you? Your first love thought you were a creep and executed a restraining order against you? Consider your own history, for it is there that you will find the answer to your bad attitude...
An overwhelming majority of police officers, here, and around the country are good, honest, and hard working people that care about the communities that they serve. The underwhelming minority of officers that break the law and infringe on individual liberties is incredibly small, yet, those are the ones we read about in the paper, so perception is very different from reality. Few, if any, Reporters are interested in writing about the officer that saved the cat in a tree, (except the one time the Stranger actually did so). Don't lump them all together because of a few bad ones. That's not only unfair, it's downright bigoted, and last time I checked, bigotry was pretty fucking uncool.
Glaring ignorance of the definition of a word, term of art, or the geography in which freedom robbing policies and police forces exist is not an argument worthy of consideration. Open a book someday, travel the world, and see, see these places that have authoritarian rule. There is no place on earth that has more civil liberties than America, and frankly, Seattle is a shinning beacon of light and freedom compared to places in which freedom is truly infringed. It wasn't always this way, but it has been so for about 30 years now. You are so privileged that you have exercised your right to ignorance, but what you don't seem to get, is that if we lived in a police state, you wouldn't be allowed to express such disdain for police officers.
And btw, I have been there, I have seen an actual police state, many, actually. I also am a paralegal that practiced felony criminal defense for many years, so I think I have a just a tad more knowledge on the rights of the individual, especially in the context of how civil liberties stack up in King County. Working in criminal defense also provided me a unique perspective to review officer behavior during confrontations and arrests. I can attest, our police force does an amazing job. If they did not, you would regularly be subject to victimization. Your words are cowardly, and violent perpetrators can smell a coward a block away. They'd be all over you like flies on shit. So yes, I suppose your shit can offer something to our community...you can offer yourself up as a victim, and that way, someone deserving of this gift of life and the massive freedom we enjoy could actually use it for something other than berating the police officers that risk their lives and die to protect you. With an attitude like yours, it is no wonder that you don't like our police, because such a display of contempt is likely to be met with more contempt to counter that of your own, and for that, I don't blame them one bit. They are, after all, simply humans. They are not perfect, and surely, you are so glaringly imperfect that I hope upon further consideration that you give them a little leeway.
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Diatribe warning!
Arguing with you is like arguing with a brick wall. You've already made up your mind, and at least a brick wall holds things together, which I am quite sure is something that you are not doing. Happy people don't look at the world with such scorn. What happened to you? Daddy didn't love you? Mommy hit you? Your first love thought you were a creep and executed a restraining order against you? Consider your own history, for it is there that you will find the answer to your bad attitude...
An overwhelming majority of police officers, here, and around the country are good, honest, and hard working people that care about the communities that they serve. The underwhelming minority of officers that break the law and infringe on individual liberties is incredibly small, yet, those are the ones we read about in the paper, so perception is very different from reality. Few, if any, Reporters are interested in writing about the officer that saved the cat in a tree, (except the one time the Stranger actually did so). Don't lump them all together because of a few bad ones. That's not only unfair, it's downright bigoted, and last time I checked, bigotry was pretty fucking uncool.
Glaring ignorance of the definition of a word, term of art, or the geography in which freedom robbing policies and police forces exist is not an argument worthy of consideration. Open a book someday, travel the world, and see, see these places that have authoritarian rule. There is no place on earth that has more civil liberties than America, and frankly, Seattle is a shinning beacon of light and freedom compared to places in which freedom is truly infringed. It wasn't always this way, but it has been so for about 30 years now. You are so privileged that you have exercised your right to ignorance, but what you don't seem to get, is that if we lived in a police state, you wouldn't be allowed to express such disdain for police officers.
And btw, I have been there, I have seen an actual police state, many, actually. I also am a paralegal that practiced felony criminal defense for many years, so I think I have a just a tad more knowledge on the rights of the individual, especially in the context of how civil liberties stack up in King County. Working in criminal defense also provided me a unique perspective to review officer behavior during confrontations and arrests. I can attest, our police force does an amazing job. If they did not, you would regularly be subject to victimization. Your words are cowardly, and violent perpetrators can smell a coward a block away. They'd be all over you like flies on shit. So yes, I suppose your shit can offer something to our community...you can offer yourself up as a victim, and that way, someone deserving of this gift of life and the massive freedom we enjoy could actually use it for something other than berating the police officers that risk their lives and die to protect you. With an attitude like yours, it is no wonder that you don't like our police, because such a display of contempt is likely to be met with more contempt to counter that of your own, and for that, I don't blame them one bit. They are, after all, simply humans. They are not perfect, and surely, you are so glaringly imperfect that I hope upon further consideration that you give them a little leeway.
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@17
lol lol. I'm not sure they'd get there so fast... Kidding... But your comment is still funny:)
lol lol. I'm not sure they'd get there so fast... Kidding... But your comment is still funny:)
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Shouldnt you guys be out there, right in the face of those cops, taunting them, provoking them into pepper spraying you so you can claim some moral victory?
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If this arrest did involved violent felons, perhaps directly adjacent to a ball field and play ground is not the best place to stage the confrontation. I am completely fine with arresting people when necessary, who isn't? But the Seattle Police seem to have no concept of their surroundings or the increased risk they place on the public. If they had been right in thinking that John T. Williams was wielding an illegal knife (which was far from the truth, but bear with me), he still would have posed less danger to the public than a cop firing a gun on a downtown street. Here again, if that SUV had contained violent, gun-wielding felons, all the more reason not to pull it over right by the one park in the neighborhood frequented by small children. I do think that most police mean well, but they certainly have been proving themselves time and again to be complete idiots when it comes to public safety.
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"An overwhelming majority of police officers, here, and around the country are good, honest, and hard working people that care about the communities that they serve"
BULLSHIT
cops are not better than the general population. they do not deserve respect just for being cops, nor should they be set to different standards because "their job is hard". in fact, i want to live in a world without cops. they pose a bigger threat to society than street criminals
BULLSHIT
cops are not better than the general population. they do not deserve respect just for being cops, nor should they be set to different standards because "their job is hard". in fact, i want to live in a world without cops. they pose a bigger threat to society than street criminals
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@21... Fuckin' A.
@25... Does it occur to you that the police don't always get to choose the time & place of confrontations? Suppose the occupant of that car was intending to shoot somebody at the park? Gang-bangers have a proclivity for shooting each other in parks.
@Fuckingwhiners... Maybe you've been unjustifiably rousted by cops. Well okay, that's a bummer but don't hate on all cops. OTOH, how many of you have ever had your sorry ass saved by a cop? Many, many people have.
@25... Does it occur to you that the police don't always get to choose the time & place of confrontations? Suppose the occupant of that car was intending to shoot somebody at the park? Gang-bangers have a proclivity for shooting each other in parks.
@Fuckingwhiners... Maybe you've been unjustifiably rousted by cops. Well okay, that's a bummer but don't hate on all cops. OTOH, how many of you have ever had your sorry ass saved by a cop? Many, many people have.
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@26... "cops... pose a bigger threat to society than street criminals."
You're so full of shit your eyes are probably brown.
You're so full of shit your eyes are probably brown.
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In this photo, we see three unmarked, all black Crown Victoria cruisers.
Has anyone else noticed an unusual preponderance of these cars around town over the last few months? (i.e. Since the inception of Occupy Seattle?)
What gives?
They are easily confused with those shiny Town Cars that are also very conspicuous lately.
Has anyone else noticed an unusual preponderance of these cars around town over the last few months? (i.e. Since the inception of Occupy Seattle?)
What gives?
They are easily confused with those shiny Town Cars that are also very conspicuous lately.
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@30 cool! So please make sure to never call 911 if someone commits a crime against you, a loved one, or family member. Save those resources for the rest of us sane people.
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This is essentially one of the many costs our society has to pay for the second amendment.
Since a large number of people have guns in this country, the police has to be more aggressive and themselves well armed in order to keep themselves and other citizens safe.
It does not look pretty, but those are trained men behind those triggers, and like most people, most cops are decent and good people.
I support the rights granted by the second amendment, but we have to be realistic about the price we pay for that freedom. Nothing is free.
Since a large number of people have guns in this country, the police has to be more aggressive and themselves well armed in order to keep themselves and other citizens safe.
It does not look pretty, but those are trained men behind those triggers, and like most people, most cops are decent and good people.
I support the rights granted by the second amendment, but we have to be realistic about the price we pay for that freedom. Nothing is free.
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Like a fucking high school debate class up in here. I can't believe how simple minded people are. Ah Police State! Fuck You, Cops Rule!
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Rotten666, I beg your pardon, but all I said was that I thought the cop with the rifle was dreamy. And he is. There's no debating that.
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@25: Your naivete is adorable. Perhaps they could have asked the suspects to drive out to Duvall...
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Hey kudos for taking a photo of a police activity and obtaining none of the details so all we have here is masturbatory speculation. It's not like The Stranger bills itself as some sort of news source in Seattle. Keep up the good work.
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@42 oh your fine, Catalina. Nothing wrong with a good looking man with a gun.
I was just trying to express what @44 said in my typically ineloquent manner.
I was just trying to express what @44 said in my typically ineloquent manner.
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@25, there are these amazing things called phones. You can use them to call people and ask questions, especially if you work for a fucking NEWSPAPER. SPD even has a magical person called a PIO whose job it is to talk to the media.
Good God. Another solid reporting job by The Stranger.
Good God. Another solid reporting job by The Stranger.
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totally agree with scratchmaster joe. they are just doing their fuckin job. fuck you police state fuckers. you don't know shit about what a police state actually represents. go fuck yourself
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