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sasha 1
Yeah I imagine after the Big Dig Massachusetts is not so keen on any more superhighways.
Posted by sasha on October 12, 2012 at 10:59 AM · Report this
Will in Seattle 2
Cool.

So cancel the 99 Tunnel.

Now.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on October 12, 2012 at 10:59 AM · Report this
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Yes, WSDOT's lowering the vehicle capacity on 99 and 520 is just like "building superhighways". Parallels just don't get no exacter!
Posted by gloomy gus on October 12, 2012 at 11:08 AM · Report this
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SuperHighway was the best after-hours club Seattle has ever known
Posted by Rowlf on October 12, 2012 at 11:23 AM · Report this
Dominic Holden 5
@3) The 520 bridge will have two additional new lanes, increasing its vehicle capacity. Each new lane, which will be for carpools and transit, can easily accommodate over 1000 more vehicles per hour.
Posted by Dominic Holden on October 12, 2012 at 12:07 PM · Report this
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@1 - you should talk to people in Boston. I believe there was even an NPR story about it. During the dig, the city was a huge mess. It went way overbudget and took longer than it was supposed. But now that it's done, everyone loves it. It's been a boon to the city.

How may flying machines and contraptions failed before the Wright brothers got it right? Throughout history, we learn from the mistakes before us, and we work to avoid making the same mistakes in the hopes of avoiding the problems already experienced. It's called learning.

The take-away is not "it was tried, it failed, we should never try it again." The take-away is "they did so many things wrong in this, how do we avoid the same mistakes."
Posted by TJ on October 12, 2012 at 12:37 PM · Report this
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maybe we should have a big tunnel over the pass on I 90. or longer snow sheds. something. our major artery in winter is sorta sucky. also needed, a train line from downtown to snoq. pass ski areas then yakima and spokane. tied into the high speed train line b vancouver and portland. if the train is in a tunnel and we can fit in a couple of car lanes, well that's okay, too.

but in general, the benefit cost ratio on adding highways in already built up areas sucks. that's what history is teaching us, should we care to learn it. the benefit cost ratio of highways on virgin unhighwayed land is SUPER. the ratio after you have them all over and it's built up SUCKS. in general.
Posted by many hwys dumb now on October 12, 2012 at 12:43 PM · Report this
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@3, my mistake - I thought those two replacement projects together reduced our existing "superhighway" system capacity around town quite nicely. Appreciate the correction.
Posted by gloomy gus on October 12, 2012 at 12:54 PM · Report this
Will in Seattle 9
Technically, the 99 tunnel has a maximum thruput capacity that is far lower than the viaduct it replaces.

But that is only if you actually read the technical appendices.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on October 12, 2012 at 1:21 PM · Report this
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How about "we will build no more bike facilities until those babies pay their way like everyone else does?"
Posted by Mister G on October 13, 2012 at 9:29 AM · Report this

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