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MacCrocodile 1
Tell my boss I had to go home early; my heart melted.

Ouch.
Posted by MacCrocodile http://maccrocodile.com/ on October 16, 2012 at 9:36 AM · Report this
Sargon Bighorn 2
This is great. BUT will it morph away from being about Gay kids being bullied into a generic "no bully" cause?
Posted by Sargon Bighorn on October 16, 2012 at 9:40 AM · Report this
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@2: No, it will not. It can't. Terry and I control all the trademarks and copyrights, etc., and we won't allow that to happen.
Posted by Dan Savage on October 16, 2012 at 9:54 AM · Report this
Confluence 4
Telling kids, "It Gets Better" in non-western countries, when that isn't exactly the case, might not be the best move. It frankly doesn't get better on most of planet earth. Coming out might mean the end of their lives, period. The motto abroad should change to, "It Gets Better: move to Europe or the USA!" Non-western countries, for the most part, see the whole gay pride thing a western phenomenon.
Posted by Confluence on October 16, 2012 at 10:09 AM · Report this
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I only wish I had more to give..... Thanks for keeping it real Dan
Posted by gnarly on October 16, 2012 at 10:19 AM · Report this
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Dan, just after the It Gets Better book was published I got a copy and put it into our church library. Not long after, it got checked out by a mom of a 14 year old. A few weeks ago that kid (just now turning 16) came out as trans. Thank you and Terry for all the hard work you have done in getting this info out to the public. I sent the family the link to the webinars from the other day, and they really appreciated the info. Keep up the good work.
Posted by SeattleKim on October 16, 2012 at 10:23 AM · Report this
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Thanks, Kim. xxxooo
Posted by Dan Savage on October 16, 2012 at 10:27 AM · Report this
Pick1 8
@4 The message of the project doesn't just reach bullied kids, it reaches communities. I have seen many hearts softened by its words...

It might not be as relevant in other countries, but getting the message out there makes it more relevant.
Posted by Pick1 on October 16, 2012 at 10:33 AM · Report this
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A few suicides to cull the weak from the population never hurt anything.
Posted by Stranger'sWorstNightmare on October 16, 2012 at 11:43 AM · Report this
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#4- Gay marriage is legal in parts of South America, Mexico, Africa, and Australia. Domestic partnership and recognition of gay marriage is legal even more widespread. There are places on every continent except maybe Asia that are more legally accepting of gay people than Seattle. Even in Asia, there are gay pride parades and gay communities and in some places much more acceptance of trans people than the US. The rest of the world isn't Iran.
Posted by Worldwides on October 16, 2012 at 12:13 PM · Report this
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How do you say "It Gets Better" in Australian?
Posted by RonK, Seattle on October 16, 2012 at 12:45 PM · Report this
JensR 12
@3 Then perhaps you should check your trademark a bit better, friend.
A Swedish TV-show a few months back used It Gets Better (or the swedish translation of it), the youtube format, but on TV, and everything else except... they cut out the gay part (not because of homophobia but they thought it would be "nicer to include everyone" (amongst other excuses)).

There where a few of us whining on twitter about how that took the project and just made it pointless and that it was disrespectful to sell your project, rebranded, without any care for the background - they claimed they had been in contact with you and that you had given them the go-ahead. So... what could we say?

(Not that its very much needed here in Sweden, or not in the same way, but it is to me to not only piss on a brilliant project but also claim that excluding cannot be progressive which is kinda scary in itself)
Posted by JensR http://ohyran.se on October 16, 2012 at 1:02 PM · Report this
JensR 13
Heres a link to the shows homepage (I dont know if you can see the videos in the US but)
"Livet blir b├Ąttre" ("Life gets better" in Swedish since "It" or "Det" doesn't really work in Swedish that way):
http://www.tv3play.se/program/livetblirb…
Posted by JensR http://ohyran.se on October 16, 2012 at 1:05 PM · Report this
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@12/13 That was solved. They dropped any wording with It Gets Better
and stopped using that phrase and now it is only used by the Swedish affiliate.

Posted by doubtroub on October 16, 2012 at 1:25 PM · Report this
JensR 15
@14 brilliant. But they changed it to "Life gets better" and kept the format, the promo's I read in the newspapers refers back to the original campaign.

I mean its great that they/you got them to change that part but (from It to Life, containing the same basic meaning)...
I still thinks its such a shit move by TV3 and in my experience (anecdotal as fuck but still) people just assume its the same thing. I just hoped they would get at least a teeeeaaany tiny bit burnt by it instead of this (this was a huge thing back then and it was really a flame-thing so perhaps its just me being pissed off still).

Ah well. Not ment to be a downer - gogogogo
Posted by JensR http://ohyran.se on October 16, 2012 at 2:18 PM · Report this
doloresdaphne 16
Yay! IGB Australiaaahh!!! Finally!

@11, this is how you say it in Autralian;

"maaayte. It gets beddah"
Posted by doloresdaphne on October 16, 2012 at 4:30 PM · Report this
Confluence 17
@10

Wow, you're pretty ignorant. Get out of your American bubble much? Africa is not "white people in South Africa" -white South Africans are basically Europeans. That's a gigantic continent and almost everywhere on it, gayness is considered a twisted perversion. Also, have you spent any time in Eastern Europe? Didn't think so. Same deal there. Korea? China? Virtually all of the Middle East? You ever actually speak to any people from any of these places about their views on the gays? Didn't think so. Hell, I've lived in progressive South America, and I was appalled by the open bigotry. No, they won't kill you for being gay in Brazil, but there's open disgust and ridicule most everywhere. And, no, Brazil is NOT Rio on your tourist package, just like the Castro in SF is not America.

It's the west - Western Europe, USA (parts of), Australia & some big cities in Latin America that are accepting. If that's "the world" to you, you live in a very narrow one where everyone is exactly like you.
Posted by Confluence on October 16, 2012 at 8:29 PM · Report this
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I can't resist saying that it's not "Carribbean" (Carry-bean?), it's "Caribbean" with one "r". :-)
Posted by ankylosaur on October 18, 2012 at 3:09 AM · Report this

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