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dnt trust me 1
Rolling Stone magazine is for adults? Which decade did you grow up in?
Posted by dnt trust me on October 25, 2012 at 5:33 PM · Report this
Ziggity 2
Didn't Kerry say Bush "fucked up" the Iraq War in that same rag? Where candidates go to cuss.
Posted by Ziggity on October 25, 2012 at 5:37 PM · Report this
Mike 3
Here's the link to the Rolling Stone interview.
Posted by Mike on October 25, 2012 at 5:38 PM · Report this
Tacoma Traveler 4
Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan
is an anagram for
My Ultimate Ayn Rand Porn.
Posted by Tacoma Traveler on October 25, 2012 at 5:59 PM · Report this
Paul Constant 5
@1: Seriously, gramps? You see a lot of teenagers reading Rolling Stone these days?
Posted by Paul Constant http:// on October 25, 2012 at 6:04 PM · Report this
@6 Your name is backwards, and the people aren't saying they can't pay more, they're saying they don't want to.
They obviously can, see the 50s and 60s.
Posted by Hanoumatoi on October 25, 2012 at 6:12 PM · Report this
@6, It's the lowest tax rate in over 50 years and if you look at red state versus blue state, its the red states that are getting the most and paying the least. So that's really not the debate at all.
Posted by MikeB on October 25, 2012 at 6:30 PM · Report this
Not only that, its not clear who Ayn Rand would be supporting. Look what she said about Reagan:

"1. The Presidential election of 1976. I urge you, as emphatically as I can, not to support the candidacy of Ronald Reagan. I urge you not to work for or advocate his nomination, and not to vote for him. My reasons are as follows: Mr. Reagan is not a champion of capitalism, but a conservative in the worst sense of that word—i.e., an advocate of a mixed economy with government controls slanted in favor of business rather than labor (which, philosophically, is as untenable a position as one could choose—see Fred Kinnan in Atlas Shrugged, pp. 541-2). This description applies in various degrees to most Republican politicians, but most of them preserve some respect for the rights of the individual. Mr. Reagan does not: he opposes the right to abortion."
Posted by MikeB on October 25, 2012 at 6:35 PM · Report this
dnt trust me 10
Excepting newsstand loitering, and doctors office waiting rooms, generally, if i see someone reading RS, i label them as a dork. I'm racist like that, or nerdist.
Posted by dnt trust me on October 25, 2012 at 6:54 PM · Report this
bleedingheartlibertarian 11
Re "bullshitter"--people tend to criticize the form of an argument when they cannot really say anything about its substance.

Re Ayn Rand-right the fuck on, indeed.
Posted by bleedingheartlibertarian on October 25, 2012 at 6:56 PM · Report this
8Way 12
I was a Randroid douchebag in high school. I spouted off her "philosophy" all the time - selfishness as a virtue, whack ideas about what constituted art and beauty. Etc.

A wise English teacher pointed out to class that what I was saying was an adolescent phase and most grew out of it as they developed as a human.

Embarrased, I hated her with a passion at the time. As life wore on, continuing into college, I reflected on her statement and finally realized the world wasn't just about me.

I now consider her my most influential and best teacher.

Thank you Ms Ceteznik! I'm sorry Paul Ryan didn't have someone like you.
Posted by 8Way on October 25, 2012 at 6:57 PM · Report this
@8: Nicely put, Mike.
Posted by Eric from Boulder on October 25, 2012 at 7:38 PM · Report this
sperifera 14
@12 - Barbara Ceteznik?
Posted by sperifera on October 25, 2012 at 7:50 PM · Report this
Probably a story in this; vandalism of Obama signs. Some nice GOPer draped a deer carcass on one in Augusta County, VA.…
Posted by DrSlipnSlide on October 25, 2012 at 8:38 PM · Report this
Supreme Ruler Of The Universe 17
Meatloaf just went for Romney as well as the Detroit News.
Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http://_ on October 25, 2012 at 8:46 PM · Report this
8Way 18
@14. Gloria Ceteznik. Juanita high...
Posted by 8Way on October 25, 2012 at 8:48 PM · Report this
Foghorn Leghorn 20
To quote Raj Patel -
“There are two novels that can transform a bookish 14-year-old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish daydream that can lead to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood in which large chunks of the day are spent inventing ways to make real life more like a fantasy novel. The other is a book about orcs.”
Posted by Foghorn Leghorn on October 25, 2012 at 9:50 PM · Report this
rob! 21
@18: Look her up on and thank her directly. Maybe she doesn't read Slog :)
Posted by rob! on October 25, 2012 at 10:07 PM · Report this
LEE. 22

as Meatloaf goes, so goes the nation... I was worried when Gene Simmons endorsed Romney. now, shit's getting real.
Posted by LEE. on October 25, 2012 at 11:01 PM · Report this
@20 - I'm glad my mother, who's a public health nurse, forced me to go out with her on her home health visits to poor families, help deliver turkeys to the homes of the needy, as well as spent 9 months play computer and video games with the family of a kid my age (13-14 y.o) who was suffering last stage Muscular dystrophy (not pretty) to realize later in life when introduced to Ayn Rand, quickly realized her ideas were dangerous to society than what people like Paul Ryan believe and realize. Unfortunately, I have a friend who loves her ideas and privately told me that Amazon is full of Ayn Rand followers at all levels of the org chart.
Posted by apres_moi on October 26, 2012 at 12:05 AM · Report this
Eric F 24
@19, bullshit. That sales figure (445k, btw) is unsourced except an article at the Ayn Rand Institute's website with no references other than to her publisher and the Institute. Good enough for Wikipedia, but that's it.
Posted by Eric F on October 26, 2012 at 1:32 AM · Report this
I'm fond of that line you quote, but I'm pretty sure the correct attribution is not Raj Patel (with whom I'm not familiar), but John Rogers
Posted by Warren Terra on October 26, 2012 at 2:40 AM · Report this

So Rand was a baby killer and an atheist? Dang!
Posted by Patricia Kayden on October 26, 2012 at 4:44 AM · Report this
Cato the Younger Younger 28
I'm sorry, Meatloaf? Since when did a loaf of meat and other filler endorse a candidate for President? Since when did anyone care?

And the Mashed Potatoes on the side? Who did they finally endorse?
Posted by Cato the Younger Younger on October 26, 2012 at 7:12 AM · Report this
singing cynic 29
@12 - Damn, you're lucky. I loved reading with a passion as a kid - I always read for pleasure in addition to what was assigned, I was in advanced or Honors English classes starting in first grade. Then in tenth grade we were assigned The Fountainhead. I despised it with a passion, and skewered Rand's philosophy in class. My teacher was deeply offended and told me that I essentially wasn't allowed to feel that way, and that if I knew what was good for me my paper would reflect "more respect for the book". When I didn't comply, she failed me. It was the only semester I have ever gotten a bad grade in an English class.
Posted by singing cynic on October 26, 2012 at 7:14 AM · Report this
I love my President, and his views on her book are right on and very perceptive. And that philosophy is indeed bullshit.
Posted by Tulip on October 26, 2012 at 8:34 AM · Report this
cressona 31
dnt trust me @10: Excepting newsstand loitering, and doctors office waiting rooms, generally, if i see someone reading RS, i label them as a dork.

Well, you missed out then on a terrific story in the latest issue that puts Mitt Romney's candidacy in the context of Mormon history. A real eye-opener.

You also missed out on a decent cover story on Taylor Swift too, but then, the simple fact that I would read an article about Taylor Swift in any publication is a sure indication that I am a dork, never mind my having purchased the latest Rolling Stone.

P.S. If I had a dime for every time someone on Slog sang the praises of Ms. Ceteznik, Barbara or Gloria...
Posted by cressona on October 26, 2012 at 9:06 AM · Report this
Like. Thumbs up!
Posted by pjc on October 26, 2012 at 10:14 AM · Report this
@25 One thing to consider: If Republicans succeed in shifting even more of the nations wealth into the hands of the plutocratic elite the next time the moochers riot they might come for your lard filled head instead of merely shitting on squad cars.
Posted by Rhizome on October 26, 2012 at 10:53 AM · Report this
keshmeshi 34

Wow. A glorified romance novel assigned in 10th grade honors English. What is the world coming to?

I generally don't support parents interfering in the grading process in schools, but your parents should have taken that matter up with the administration, frankly. The most important thing in writing class is making your argument in a convincing way, regardless if the teacher agrees. So, that teacher wasn't just a Randroid asshole who failed you for political reasons, she also was a hack who had no business working as a teacher.
Posted by keshmeshi on October 26, 2012 at 2:19 PM · Report this

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