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Fnarf 1
If you ever get a chance, head down to Wall Street really early in the morning, and just sit and watch the subway exits. From 7 to 9 AM wave after wave of humanity comes pouring up those steps, more people than your mind can handle. It happens everywhere in New York but the numbers and concentration at Wall Street, because the streets are so narrow, is just unbelievable.

This is going to be almost a 9/11 level of disruption.

I remember that after the 1977 blackout is when women started the fashion of wearing sneakers to work with their heels in a bag, because they had to walk 20 blocks or more and heels just weren't cutting it. Now everybody does it (if they have to wear heels at all).
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on October 30, 2012 at 9:14 AM · Report this
Goldy 2
@1 Yeah, you take it for granted. It's just how NYC works.

Walking 20 blocks in Manhattan is no problem. It's walking across the Brooklyn Bridge to get to and from Manhattan that would take its toll.
Posted by Goldy on October 30, 2012 at 9:19 AM · Report this
Phoebe in Wallingford 3
The silver lining is of course the improvements that they can make with no trains running. Correct faulty constructed areas, insure electrical components will be better protected, install improved lighting, signaling and signs, add wifi, make it harder for folks to fall into the tracks, and make it harder for transients to get into unauthorized areas.
Posted by Phoebe in Wallingford on October 30, 2012 at 9:27 AM · Report this
Joe Szilagyi 4
The streets are also going to be a ghost town as far as cars go with the tunnels down. The Battery tunnel... that may be fucked for weeks, it totally flooded with salt water. You'll start to see some of the stores for a day or two at least get lean in Manhattan on supplies.
Posted by Joe Szilagyi http://twitter.com/joeszi on October 30, 2012 at 9:28 AM · Report this
Max Solomon 5
a bicycle might be handy in this situation.
Posted by Max Solomon on October 30, 2012 at 9:42 AM · Report this
Asparagus! 7
@goldy

Who the hell (besides tourists) walks across the brooklyn bridge?
Posted by Asparagus! on October 30, 2012 at 9:47 AM · Report this
emor 8
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Someone who needs to get somewhere when the subway is not running?
Posted by emor on October 30, 2012 at 9:51 AM · Report this
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@7 quite a few people walk to and from work across the brooklyn bridge. i realize it may be difficult for you to believe, but it is true.
Posted by xina on October 30, 2012 at 9:52 AM · Report this
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or bike to and from work across the bridge(s). i know people who have done it.
Posted by xina on October 30, 2012 at 9:53 AM · Report this
Urgutha Forka 11
The cabs and limos (once the streets are cleared) should make a killing for a few weeks.

Is the Long Island RR running? I knew a ton of people who used that daily. And there's no way anyone's going to walk or bike from the middle of Long Island into Manhattan.
Posted by Urgutha Forka on October 30, 2012 at 10:05 AM · Report this
Cracker Jack 12
@3: Not so much... there's an extensive refurbishment program in place. They take subsets of lines out for 5 nights in a row and do repairs and upgrades overnight.

This outage is going to be all about doing the minimum that needs to be done to get the entire system back up and running. Every available resource is going to be working all around the city, all around the clock, just doing that.

If anything, it's going to mean MORE scheduled outages in the future as they make non-urgent repairs that were made necessary by the storm.
Posted by Cracker Jack on October 30, 2012 at 10:21 AM · Report this
Cascadian 13
Here's my worry. In normal times, the federal government would step in to take on some of the costs to repair infrastructure in a case like this. But the Republicans at least since Katrina have played politics with disaster aid, equating it with welfare. Do you really think they're going to happily vote to spend money to help New York City?

And without federal money, it falls on New York State, which is already pressed for cash (like any other state). And in any case, they have to balance their budget so the repairs can't happen without raising taxes.

We've got a perfect case both morally and fiscally for deficit-financed stimulus spending, and it's probably not going to happen, or will happen only at the cost of the state's economy.

And then the Republicans, lying assholes and cowards as they are, will blame Democrats for the outcome.
Posted by Cascadian on October 30, 2012 at 10:30 AM · Report this
biffp 14
I loved riding a bike in NYC, even in February when it was 15 degrees. I was probably the only guy in town with a tan. I used to rollerblade to work as well, but that was a little crazy with the traffic. With that said, I rode the subway almost every day for the 13 years I lived there. I only remember flooding closing the Boston subway in '96.
Posted by biffp on October 30, 2012 at 10:54 AM · Report this
Asparagus! 15
Manhattan Bridge always is better than the Brooklyn Bridge. If you commute by bike over the brooklyn bridge yer dumb.
Posted by Asparagus! on October 30, 2012 at 11:49 AM · Report this
Knat 16
I think I'm finally starting to get some perspective on just how bad this storm is.
Posted by Knat on October 30, 2012 at 11:58 AM · Report this
Andy_Squirrel 17
Strange how owning a bicycle wasn't on the list of "emergency preparation gear"
Posted by Andy_Squirrel on October 30, 2012 at 12:03 PM · Report this
Fnarf 18
There are thousands of people who walk or cycle across the Brooklyn, Manhattan, and Williamsburg bridges to get to work every day.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on October 30, 2012 at 12:33 PM · Report this
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Yes, there are people that ride bikes across the bridge. But 80% of NYers don't have bikes- none of my friends do, and they're certainly not going to get one today, just for this.

People commute miles into Manhattan from the outer burough, and these are the people on the bottom rung of the socioeconomic ladder. The disruption about trains being down goes beyond 'just use a bike'. All colleges are shut down, for example, in the enitre city, just because no-one is able to get to them.
Posted by Iroohik on October 30, 2012 at 12:42 PM · Report this
Westlake, son! 20
This must be the fault of the bicycle mafia. War on subways!
Posted by Westlake, son! on October 30, 2012 at 12:46 PM · Report this
Andy_Squirrel 21
@19 Good point, bikes are pretty useless when there isn't a state of emergency (plus they are super expensive). Your friends are sound very wise. Best to save that bit of money for other important things like buying 20 drinks in NYC's overpriced bars.
Posted by Andy_Squirrel on October 30, 2012 at 1:36 PM · Report this
long-time reader 22
@21, super expensive? Really? Maybe if you insist on carbon fiber and titanium parts.
Posted by long-time reader on October 30, 2012 at 2:45 PM · Report this
Asparagus! 23
@21 Seems to be fairly clueless about how poverty works, and the level of non-automobile infrastructure in poor NYC neighbourhoods.
Posted by Asparagus! on October 30, 2012 at 2:46 PM · Report this
long-time reader 24
Rereading your post, I am now detecting more than a hint of irony, oops
Posted by long-time reader on October 30, 2012 at 2:47 PM · Report this
Mahtli69 25
On the bright side, the NYC subway system hasn't had a thorough cleaning since it opened. This was long overdue.
Posted by Mahtli69 on October 30, 2012 at 4:59 PM · Report this
Andy_Squirrel 26
@24 ugh, you make me sad to be a human
Sarcasm, not irony
Posted by Andy_Squirrel on October 31, 2012 at 11:08 AM · Report this

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