Slog Comments
"Soon America Is Going to Suck for All of Us"
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Certainly the Republican party as constituted is now over. Insulting 75% of the electorate and fighting to be the most Reaganesque nets a giant goose egg.
But yes, Obama conquered after turning in the worse nationally televised performance ever. That pretty must says folk y'all, we win.
But yes, Obama conquered after turning in the worse nationally televised performance ever. That pretty must says folk y'all, we win.
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What I find most amusing about conservative commentors is that in their internet personas, they are all captains of industry, extremely succesful venture capitalsits or wealthy wranglers of the stock market/economy.
They all somehow own successfuly small businesses, and they all consider themselves "makers" or "job creators."
Something tells me successful businessmen are not posting poorly worded comments on websites all day.
In their fantasy, they are all John Galt, they all know the mind of the market, and have hundreds of thousands if not millions invested. Even the trolls here do this all the time. I do not know if they are just liars, or if the propaganda really has them believing that they are not of Romney's 47%, or that with their middle class jobs, they are job "creators."
They all somehow own successfuly small businesses, and they all consider themselves "makers" or "job creators."
Something tells me successful businessmen are not posting poorly worded comments on websites all day.
In their fantasy, they are all John Galt, they all know the mind of the market, and have hundreds of thousands if not millions invested. Even the trolls here do this all the time. I do not know if they are just liars, or if the propaganda really has them believing that they are not of Romney's 47%, or that with their middle class jobs, they are job "creators."
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Oh. My. Gawd.
Muggles Gallagher AND Supreme Drooler of the Suburbs said something I agree with!
Good luck with that Tea Party anvil around your party's neck, guys.
Muggles Gallagher AND Supreme Drooler of the Suburbs said something I agree with!
Good luck with that Tea Party anvil around your party's neck, guys.
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I for one would welcome a GOP that recognized the need to hold moderate positions in order to win elections. I hope this is a wakeup call: you can't take a dump on women and minorities and keep winning elections. Or maybe you can, for awhile yet.
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@5 That's a hilarious observations Theo!
My favorite part:
"Something tells me successful businessmen are not posting poorly worded comments on websites all day"
My favorite part:
"Something tells me successful businessmen are not posting poorly worded comments on websites all day"
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Back in '04 I remember Slog linking to a whole bunch of inverse-schadenfreude (is that just "freude"? dunno) comments on a million conservative blogs, highlighting the sadism of R's.
One mentioned metaphorically "curb-stomping" Democratic voters.
So yeah, this is sweet.
One mentioned metaphorically "curb-stomping" Democratic voters.
So yeah, this is sweet.
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For once I tend to agree with Norquist: these extremists were reelected despite their policies being responsible for cratering the economy, preventing any significant reform to fix what's ailing us and having the worse approval rating of any congress in memory. That is a feat for which that we'll pay dearly.
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Hey, all you doomsayers:
1. GDP performance under Obama moved into positive growh.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/chart.pn…
2. US Stock Market during the Obama administration:
DOW in 01/20/2009: 7,949.09
DOW in 09/06/2012: 13,292.00
Rate of Return: 67.21%
NASDAQ in 01/20/2009: 1,440.86
NASDAQ in 09/06/2012: 3,135.81
Rate of Return: 117.63%
3. Private Job growth loss reversed and moved into positive territory:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8006/76917…
4. Rise in unemployment rate slowed and unemployment continues to trend downward:
1/20/2001: 4.2%
1/20/2009: 7.7%
Unemployment Rate Change: +83.33% increase
Obama
1/20/2009: 7.7%
Currently: 7.9%
Unemployment Rate Change: +2.6% increase
5. Initial jobless claims continue to trend downward:
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-11…
6. Average weekly paychecks are higher:
http://ycharts.com/indicators/average_we…
7. Inflation is not out of control despite the rise in wages and increased currency supply:
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/galleries…
8. Manufacturing production is up:
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/galleries…
9. Consumer spending (a large part of our economy) is up:
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/galleries…
10. Corporate profits are higher than they have ever been:
http://www.blue-point-trading.com/wp-con…
11. Tax rates have not increased (though they should in my opinion)
12. The housing market is recovering:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_6…
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1. GDP performance under Obama moved into positive growh.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/chart.pn…
2. US Stock Market during the Obama administration:
DOW in 01/20/2009: 7,949.09
DOW in 09/06/2012: 13,292.00
Rate of Return: 67.21%
NASDAQ in 01/20/2009: 1,440.86
NASDAQ in 09/06/2012: 3,135.81
Rate of Return: 117.63%
3. Private Job growth loss reversed and moved into positive territory:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8006/76917…
4. Rise in unemployment rate slowed and unemployment continues to trend downward:
1/20/2001: 4.2%
1/20/2009: 7.7%
Unemployment Rate Change: +83.33% increase
Obama
1/20/2009: 7.7%
Currently: 7.9%
Unemployment Rate Change: +2.6% increase
5. Initial jobless claims continue to trend downward:
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-11…
6. Average weekly paychecks are higher:
http://ycharts.com/indicators/average_we…
7. Inflation is not out of control despite the rise in wages and increased currency supply:
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/galleries…
8. Manufacturing production is up:
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/galleries…
9. Consumer spending (a large part of our economy) is up:
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/galleries…
10. Corporate profits are higher than they have ever been:
http://www.blue-point-trading.com/wp-con…
11. Tax rates have not increased (though they should in my opinion)
12. The housing market is recovering:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_6…
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The "fiscal conservative" in this presidential election DID win.
It really does amaze me that so many liberals and conservatives believe the republican party is a party of fiscal conservatism and the democrats spend too much, when the exact opposite is the reality.
Maybe it's a strange fantasy, like TG @5 describes. The republicans want so badly to be fiscally conservative, and they keep telling themselves and everyone else they are fiscally conservative so much, that, despite all evidence to the contrary, people fall for it.
It's a make believe fantasy.
Democrats are the fically conservative party and have been for decades.
It really does amaze me that so many liberals and conservatives believe the republican party is a party of fiscal conservatism and the democrats spend too much, when the exact opposite is the reality.
Maybe it's a strange fantasy, like TG @5 describes. The republicans want so badly to be fiscally conservative, and they keep telling themselves and everyone else they are fiscally conservative so much, that, despite all evidence to the contrary, people fall for it.
It's a make believe fantasy.
Democrats are the fically conservative party and have been for decades.
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The butthurt comments on Republican sites are split between three categories:
-Useless masturbation ("we lost because we didn't go far enough to the right!")
-Facing hard truths ("we lost because we went too far to the right.")
-Angry dithering ("IMPEACH OBAMA FOR BEING BLACK.")
And everyone who goes with the second option seems to get accused of not being a true conservative.
I shall drink your tears and they shall make me strong.
-Useless masturbation ("we lost because we didn't go far enough to the right!")
-Facing hard truths ("we lost because we went too far to the right.")
-Angry dithering ("IMPEACH OBAMA FOR BEING BLACK.")
And everyone who goes with the second option seems to get accused of not being a true conservative.
I shall drink your tears and they shall make me strong.
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@16, You are right of course about the GOP not being fiscally responsible for decades now but fiscal regressives won last night insofar Obama is ready to push through his so called "grand bargain" that is likely nothing more than austerity.
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@17: My favorite part are the articles that have already gone up. They claim, among other things, that Romney lost because:
-He was not conservative enough (please believe this republicans, PLEASE believe this to be true)
-They were too honest about their positions
-Romney was the weakest of the Santorum/Bachmann/Perry/Gingrich field, and it was actually the democrats who chose Romney
-That "conservatism" actually won(?)
-America is not a democracy
-Their Super PAC money was wasted/stolen by democratic operatives
-Americans only ever vote for incumbent parties/candidates
-Voter suppression against conservatives in conservative districts (hahahahahaha)
-Shady federal agents illegally driving brown people to polling places
-He was not conservative enough (please believe this republicans, PLEASE believe this to be true)
-They were too honest about their positions
-Romney was the weakest of the Santorum/Bachmann/Perry/Gingrich field, and it was actually the democrats who chose Romney
-That "conservatism" actually won(?)
-America is not a democracy
-Their Super PAC money was wasted/stolen by democratic operatives
-Americans only ever vote for incumbent parties/candidates
-Voter suppression against conservatives in conservative districts (hahahahahaha)
-Shady federal agents illegally driving brown people to polling places
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Curiously, while the writer of redstate's 30 Reasons... post is guzzling the Kool-aid like it's late July in El Paso, the commentors are fairly rational.
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We should be so lucky to be "doomed to permanent Democratic Rule." Maybe then we can start making some progress, instead of spending every Democratic administration cleaning up after the previous GOP-engineered clusterfuck.
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I enjoyed these comments far too much; where can I go to see people gloat about I-1185 and I-1240 so I can regain some karmic balance?
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Even Hitler, faced with the same crushing defeat, did the right thing. Why can't these people find a bunker?
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Bring it on, binders full of dumbshit Republicans!!
@24 Knat: Thank you!! I could NOT have said it better!!
Now, if we could only get rid of the GOP idiots in the House and Congress.
Bring it on, binders full of dumbshit Republicans!!
@24 Knat: Thank you!! I could NOT have said it better!!
Now, if we could only get rid of the GOP idiots in the House and Congress.
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Take THAT, Rethugs----soon America is going to suck for the 1%!!!!!!
I'm amazed at all the countless billions wasted on lies, vicious aattack ads, voter suppression, the "war on women", and the Blethens sitting on their Pulitzer Prize winning laurels attempting to buy their own governor. All Rethugs---especially the Koch brothers and Goldman Sachs---can SUCK IT!!!!
Hopefully now the rest of the world won't see us as "dumb Americans" anymore.
I'm amazed at all the countless billions wasted on lies, vicious aattack ads, voter suppression, the "war on women", and the Blethens sitting on their Pulitzer Prize winning laurels attempting to buy their own governor. All Rethugs---especially the Koch brothers and Goldman Sachs---can SUCK IT!!!!
Hopefully now the rest of the world won't see us as "dumb Americans" anymore.
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I still don't understand how America can vote for Obama and a bunch of other excellent leftie stuff, yet we ended up with a House of Representatives full of the same douchenozzles we had before the election, more or less.
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That NR page made for some fun reading. My favorite was the guy who notes that votes on social issues leaned slightly more conservative that the votes for prez/senate. He has a nice little chart showing that same sex marriage ballot measures and abortion-related ballot measures passed (in all the good liberal ways), BUT they didn't win with as big a margin as Obama won. Yeah, seriously, that was his silver lining. Sweet.
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@31: Because we vote by district. Crazy wingnut district brings crazy wingnut representatives without more sane people to balance out the crazy.
The smaller the race, the crazier a candidate can be and still win. Large elections force the candidates to the middle.
The smaller the race, the crazier a candidate can be and still win. Large elections force the candidates to the middle.
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What's really amazing is that according to these extravagantly deluded people a financial industry parasite is a 'maker' and a blue-collar worker a 'taker'.
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Enough gloating and wallowing in the manufactured suffering of the deluded right, it is time to start focusing on 2014. OUST THE TEA PARTY! RETAKE THE HOUSE!
We also need to remain aware and involved, and pressure Obama on civil liberties. He's better than Romney, but he has some things he needs to fix.
Onward and upward, fellow rational thinkers!
We also need to remain aware and involved, and pressure Obama on civil liberties. He's better than Romney, but he has some things he needs to fix.
Onward and upward, fellow rational thinkers!
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If the conservatives want to start winning, they have to stop being delusional. Sweeping problems under the rug, like healthcare reform (which began to manifest in the 80s), or telling people up is down ("conservatives know how to balance the budget") no longer works.
A writer put it succinctly, the conservatives no long argue about policy. They argue the facts that underlie the decisions on policy.
They are the most entitled sector of our society, for they feel entitled to their own facts. As evidenced by our residents trolls here. They've already left America, have been living in their fantasy land for over a decade. Unfortunately, their zombie-bodies remain and plague the rest of mankind.
A writer put it succinctly, the conservatives no long argue about policy. They argue the facts that underlie the decisions on policy.
They are the most entitled sector of our society, for they feel entitled to their own facts. As evidenced by our residents trolls here. They've already left America, have been living in their fantasy land for over a decade. Unfortunately, their zombie-bodies remain and plague the rest of mankind.
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@35 FTW. The House is going to do nothing but propose legislation to get shot down over the next two years. The hard part is going to be making them look like the assholes they are.
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I think the GOP is going to lose a lot more races if they DON'T stick to fiscal conservatism. It really wasn't the economy that sank them, as most people felt Mitt had a BETTER record there, but it was their platforms on women, Latinos, the poor, and the homosexual community.
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@40- Maybe they should try actually being fiscally conservative. Borrow-and-Spend "Conservatives" are a lot less fiscally conservative than Tax-and-Spend "Liberals."
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