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Most confusing preferred pronoun ever.
Posted by PanPaniscus on November 7, 2012 at 3:45 PM · Report this
Dougsf 2
Do you know if he was also offered the 5th amendment-nullifying carrot of "immunity"?
Posted by Dougsf on November 7, 2012 at 3:48 PM · Report this
Will in Seattle 4
Expect to see this used on MJ cases in WA and CO since they can't jail us anymore for that.
Posted by Will in Seattle on November 7, 2012 at 4:08 PM · Report this
leek 5
I really feel they should accept the use of "them" for instances in which they are being acted upon by a verb.
Posted by leek on November 7, 2012 at 4:08 PM · Report this
Yeah, not to focus on the pronoun, but what 5 said. Use whatever pronoun you like, but grammar is still grammar; use the objective case when called for.
Posted by Levislade on November 7, 2012 at 4:12 PM · Report this
Dougsf 7
@3 - Your right to trial by Grand Jury is one of the tenants of the 5th Amendment. Your right to not incriminate yourself is another.

I'm not a lawyer, and I don't believe 'pleading the 5th' extends to telling on your friends, granting a person immunity is a shifty way around that right, which is why I was curious if that was the case.
Posted by Dougsf on November 7, 2012 at 4:16 PM · Report this
pdonahue 8
Word on the street is a Stranger reporter is working with a NLG lawyer to file a request to the 9th circuit for more info on the scope of the GJ. Any leads yet?
Posted by pdonahue on November 7, 2012 at 4:16 PM · Report this
Dougsf 12
Wikipedia? P'sha! Real legal expertise only results from countless hours in front of a television. Now, why don't they just badger the witness until someone from the gallery stands up and admits to having done whatever it is they've done. It will totally work.
Posted by Dougsf on November 7, 2012 at 4:36 PM · Report this
I have a feeling that the ungrammatical pronoun is Brendan's mistake. It could be that Maddy doesn't want to be referred to with the objective, but I've never heard of that, and I do know multiple people who use they/them...
plus the FB event page for a rally outside the courthouse this morning refers to Maddy as "them"
(I'm reposting an unregistered comment above that I made -- unable to register that name because i typed my email address wrong. sigh.)
Posted by azucar on November 7, 2012 at 4:50 PM · Report this
It's entirely disingenuous to suggest that there's something amiss in a grand jury investigating anarchists prior to May 1. The vandalism and the riot that fizzled out along with it were planned long in advance, and anyone who was paying any attention at all knew there were Pac-NW anarchist groups planning hijinks in Seattle on May Day.

Law enforcement knew there were plans afoot, too— and they hardly needed a snitch to figure it out, what with all the internet chest-beating and fist-pumping.
Posted by robotslave on November 7, 2012 at 11:50 PM · Report this
watchout5 15
He's only going cause they let that other one go. Their link between those 2 was enough such that all she had to do was infer that she knew him. Bam. They found the right anarchist documents to know that's the new guy they want. It's just a game of whack a mole, and it's not making anyone safer.
Posted by watchout5 on November 8, 2012 at 2:04 AM · Report this

Oddly enough, there are many, many anarchists in the pacific northwest who have not been subpoenaed for this particular grand jury.

So if they're playing whack-a-mole, it seems they're ignoring a huge number of moles, don't you think? Good heavens, how many anarchists would be under investigation if The PigFeds had just subpoenaed all of Leah-Lynn Plante's co-workers at the Black and Red anti-capitalist coffee shop?
Posted by robotslave on November 8, 2012 at 3:02 AM · Report this
@ 11. You're right. I mistook the pronoun.

@ 8. You're also right. The president of the local chapter of the National Lawyers Guild has filed some motions on behalf of The Stranger to unseal some documents related to the case. I'll let you know how that goes.
Posted by Brendan Kiley on November 8, 2012 at 8:36 AM · Report this

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