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That's going to be true of pretty much any testosterone therapy, given that that's what testosterone does.
Posted by digitalwitch on November 29, 2012 at 9:35 AM · Report this
Canadian Nurse 2
I'm not a big fan of having sex with someone using a product that made their armpits off-limits.
Posted by Canadian Nurse on November 29, 2012 at 9:43 AM · Report this
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This was featured in one of the chapters in Jesse Bering's "Why is the Penis Shaped Like That": the story of a baby boy who sprouted pubic hair and started having frequent erections because he was exposed to his dad's testosterone gel when the dad hugged him every night before bed. Fortunately the pubic hair fell out and he went back to being a normal baby once the dad was advised to change his routine.
Posted by I have always been... east coaster on November 29, 2012 at 9:44 AM · Report this
Sir Vic 4
@1 Yes and no. The problems with the test gel are kind of silly. Topical gels are the worst possible delivery mechanism for exogenous testosterone. Intramuscular injections are optimal, and can be done as little as once a week instead of daily gel rubs. Oral test has to be formulated in a way that is very damaging to the liver, so it is not a good long term option.

Unfortunately, all the well known and reliable injectible forms of test have been available for 30+ years and are therefore not patented by BigPharma. The need for Testosterone Replacement Therapy is still present, so they've had to come up with something they can sell at a profit, regardless of efficacy.

Topical test gel is fast acting, and fast ending, which is why pro athletes have taken it up. But it is nowhere near as effective as injected test and has its own set of side effects.

And for the adult man who needs TRT, what kind of trade-off is not being able to hug your wife & daughter? That would seem like a deal breaker for most men.
Posted by Sir Vic on November 29, 2012 at 9:48 AM · Report this
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Dump the cable. In the long run it will do worse than give you a pubic hair beard.
Posted by concerned for your mental health on November 29, 2012 at 9:52 AM · Report this
Pope Peabrain 6
Do you have any idea what we spew into the Puget Sound? And children play in that water all the time.
Posted by Pope Peabrain on November 29, 2012 at 9:59 AM · Report this
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Testo supplements are probably overprescribed for men under 50 and underprescribed for older hypogonadal men, who are at most serious risk of hip fracture. Men who get hip fractures generally don't do so well and typically die within the year. For a 60-year-old on supplements, the dangers of cross-contamination are a bit lower, as there usually aren't prepubescent children living in the household and the spouse is less likely to be of child-bearing age.

But remember, if grandpa is on transdermal testosterone gel, he shouldn't be hugging the grandkids unless he's wearing a shirt. And, wipe down the bathroom faucets before letting the kids use them.
Posted by Brooklyn Reader on November 29, 2012 at 10:00 AM · Report this
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My partner used a testosterone gel as part of his HRT for a period of time, because he couldn't do the injections on himself and I wasn't around often enough to do it for him. We talked it over with his doctor, where he should put the gel, how long we should wait for touching one another afterwards, etc.

It was pretty easy to avoid.

Pills are a terrible way to take testosterone treatment, though. Your body doesn't absorb it as readily that way and it's a huge strain on the liver.
Posted by Zuulabelle http://www.mellophant.com on November 29, 2012 at 10:03 AM · Report this
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn 9
Kids. That's exactly why I only keep Percocet and horse tranquilizers in my medicine cabinet. If my kids accidentally swallow some, nothing bad will happen.

Axiron should be banned. For the children.
Posted by Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn http://youtu.be/zu-akdyxpUc on November 29, 2012 at 10:05 AM · Report this
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I take Axiron.

If you are a parent without a lockable medicine cabinet, you should get a lockable medicine cabinet.

If you are a woman dating a man that takes Axiron, ask him to take a shower before you touch his pits. Axiron is usually applied in the morning, and is absorbed within a couple hours. He can shower in the afternoon without hurting the efficacy of the drug. You can touch him after the Axiron has been washed away.

Low testosterone is difficult to treat.

Injections are intentional overdoses where you get a big hit in the beginning and then you completely run out over a period of days. The pill includes risks of blood clots, hepatitis and liver cancer.

I tried Androderm (a patch), AndroGel (a gel), Testim (a gel), and Striant (you hold it in your lip, like chew). I didn't have good results with any of these.

In spite of Axiron's seemingly yucky application procedure, I've found it to be the least revolting of the methods I've tried. For me, the results have been remarkably consistent, which was a problem with the other products I tried.

I hope you never have to know all that I've learned about what it means to be a testosterone patient.
Posted by SomeGuyInLynnwood on November 29, 2012 at 10:12 AM · Report this
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@4 Partially valid observation. Testo supplements have side effects for the user, too, and those are worse in the higher doses. What the daily gels and patches accomplish is low-level but more constant dosing. Injections have a tailing dosage curve, very high in the first few days, falling off to too low at the end of two weeks. This has mood effects and other problems. The latest therapy involves subcutaneous pellets, which has more level dosing than injections, but requires minor surgery every 3 months.

The worst part of the gels is that the absorption level is around 10%, so 9 times more is getting into the environment than into the patient. In other words, a 5mg dose actually contains 50mg of testosterone (formulated as 5 grams of gel containing 1% testo), most of which ends up eventually on the shower floor and in the laundry, unless its turning into something else along the way (like estrogen?).
Posted by Brooklyn Reader on November 29, 2012 at 10:18 AM · Report this
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50µg of clompihene citrate every two days brought my testosterone levels into boringly normal range, as per:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12904…

It might not work for you, but if it does, it's less creepy-on-the-skin than gels, less dangerous than pills, and less shoving-thing-in-your-armpits than this stuff.
Posted by Roderick Frederick Arnold Ronald Macarthur McBan CLII on November 29, 2012 at 11:10 AM · Report this
Will in Seattle 13
Going to be a lot of muscle-bound salmon come springtime in the Sound.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on November 29, 2012 at 11:10 AM · Report this
Hawke 14
I've been hearing these ads for testosterone supplements and I wonder how many guys know that too much testosterone converts into estrogen. If anyone is using injectable or topical testosterone, they should get their levels checked regularly.
Posted by Hawke http://facebook.com/thehawke on November 29, 2012 at 11:12 AM · Report this
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Awful lot of judgement around here about people trying to live with a legitimate, quantifiable medical condition.
Posted by jzimbert on November 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM · Report this
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Any topical steroid carries these same risks. AndroGel, which has been on the market for a while, carries similar warnings.
Posted by Leo88 on November 29, 2012 at 11:40 AM · Report this
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Yes to #15. Get a grip people.
Posted by drawn on November 29, 2012 at 12:18 PM · Report this
Rob in Baltimore 18
Parents who don't keep their medications, any medications, from their children, shouldn't have kids.
Posted by Rob in Baltimore http://www.wishbookweb.com/ on November 29, 2012 at 1:12 PM · Report this
Chelydra_serpentina 19
Good god. If they can deliver long-lasting hormonal birth control with a subcutaneous implant, why the fuck can't they do that with testosterone?

Slather goop into your armpits? Who thinks of these things?
Posted by Chelydra_serpentina on November 29, 2012 at 1:17 PM · Report this
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Oh I don't know that it's the worst possible side effect. I took a med once where the most tricky side effect was that your skin falls off and you die. Not in patches or anything - it gets gangrenous, turns black, and sloughs, like a suit of clothes, a process that takes six weeks or so. You usually die before that, if you're lucky. Oh, and the only symptom that might warn you this is happening (and the process once begun is irreversible) is itchiness. Because you get a rash. On the inside of your skin, so it's invisible. Might I mention this med is for a mental illness? So.... that seems worse I guess. At least hormone side effects are kinda obvious and reversible.
Posted by I dunno on November 29, 2012 at 1:27 PM · Report this
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Grant, the way that you portray treatments for hypogonadism here are insensitive, ignorant, and offensive. Axiron (and others) aren't discretionary drugs to "fix your junk"--they treat serious consequences like osteoporosis and depression. Furthermore, you'll find similar warnings on any transdermal drug, including transdermal estradiol. Sex hormone metabolism is complicated and varies wildly between individuals, and as @10 described, a delivery method that works well for one person may not work well for another.

Finally:
- There are far more acutely dangerous and widely used medications than Axiron. If your children think medicine is for funsies, you should probably keep it all locked up. (The same goes for kitchen knives, scissors, sewing machines, etc.)
- "Changes in body hair," means virilization/hirsuitism, not "pubic hair beard."
- Oral testosterone decimates the liver. Due to first-pass metabolism, it's not a practical delivery mechanism for long-term use. (Hypogonadism is generally a chronic condition, not one that you can fix with a short course of drugs.)
- High variability in serum testosterone levels makes injections intolerable for some people--in your language, it can be "much harder than that."

(To be fair, some people who are prone to dermatitis or who have high levels of peripheral 5-a-reductase don't tolerate the gels very well, either. It really depends on the individual.)
Posted by At long last, please have some decency on November 29, 2012 at 2:18 PM · Report this
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Slate Pharma makes testosterone pellets (Testopel), which are implanted in the fat of the buttocks every 4-6 months depending on the individual. Pretty easy procedure, I do it in my office. There are safe oral preparations (Andriol) but not available in the US. There are also longer-acting injections (testosterone undecanoate) but also not available in the US. The point of Axiron is that by applying to the armpits instead of the chest/shoulder you're applying in a place kids are less likely to come into contact.
Posted by epunch on November 29, 2012 at 8:10 PM · Report this
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If you have Low-T you would pretty much do anything to get your levels up. You suffer from depression that can not be controlled by medications, your bones thin and you are at a higher risk for heart failure and kidney failure! You have no quality of life!! Your whole family suffers! I had Prostate cancer 2yrs ago and a prolatin producing tomur on my pituatary gland. I have been taking medication to srink the tomur, but my testoserone keep dropping!! It is 63. But the doctors didn't want to give me Testoserone because of the cancer. However my PSA all are 0. I just got a prescription for Axiron and wow now not sure I can afford to even try it! $$$$ I am disabled and my wife just lost her job. So for all of you that have all the negitive things to say, you may feel different if it was happening to you and your family! I pray that you never have to go thru this!!
Posted by Papaw0713 on December 22, 2012 at 2:27 PM · Report this
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All those that jump up and down about this medication keep in mind that it is medication and like any other medication, should be treated and used properly.

I am supposed to start using this medication as others had serious side effects and this particular medication may be a viable treatment. Yes, it is expensive, and yes, it is the 'new kid on the block' and it is used as last resort (at least in my case).

If you feel that you can't prevent cross contamination, or that you can't keep it away from reaching unintended individuals, then don't use it, but leave the rest of us, responsible patients, the option to use it.
Posted by Med that is needed on January 7, 2013 at 4:54 PM · Report this
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Having been on Fortesta for11 months (one daily application on each inner thigh), the latest results are showing a decease in testosterone. Starting on the free one month trial of Axiron. Had blood draw today and will have another in one month.
Posted by Hub Capp on January 9, 2013 at 2:01 PM · Report this
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#15 I don't see one person on here judging people who have a condition requiring testosterone treatments. Get over yourself.
Posted by EdNH on January 10, 2013 at 7:23 AM · Report this
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U dummies ur soppose to cover the area with a t-shirt to to prevent exposure. N to the lady that has the sex issue with someone using, birth control is a hormone, so be careful how u judge.
Posted by informed on January 24, 2013 at 12:50 PM · Report this
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You all are extremely ignorant. Pay attention, do some research and maybe you won't. Look like total dumb asses. Where did you get that its a gel or a cream? Really? Right there shows your level of intelligence. It is a formula that is mixed into rubbing alcohol. You pump the solution into a rubber applicator and rub it in under your arms. Its dry in less than 5 min and that's that. Its rubbing alcohol. I've been taking it for 6 months and the warning labels are for the stupid. After its dry in 2 -3 minutes its safe and your not going to spread it to anyone. What they need to come up with is a medicine for the incompetent people out there that leave remarks and are absolutely clueless to what they see or hear. No wonder this country is so messed up. Educate yourselves so you don look foolish. PATHETIC.
Posted by Brian Seibert on February 1, 2013 at 10:02 AM · Report this
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To # 28...Now you know why there is a warning on fanbelts that states that the engine should be turned off before attempting to put the fan belt on....kinda makes you wonder.
anyway...
I just returned from my Dr. and the only real concern I have is the cost, around $ 450.00 for 90 ml. It is supposed to last for 30 days and I got 5 refills ($2250.00). Got the first one free with a coupon my Dr. had. He said that Lilly was really pushing this product, he did not say why. I'm sure it has to do with PROFIT. My insurance,(B/C B/S), will will not pick up the tab. I'll probably have to go to the injectable next month. Not really caring for this whole mess. Some of the comments on here have been a bit harsh but if ever they ever have to deal with such an issue I'm thinking that their tunes would change considerably. Again, thanks for your comment.
Posted by just this once, a little truth on February 4, 2013 at 12:02 PM · Report this
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The transference of gels does not happen if you wear clothes over the application
Site. You will not instantly get a side effect if you come into contact with gel.repeated contact and you could have a side effect occurrence. Before contact wash application site. Dont run around naked/ have skin to skin contact(wear shirt, pants etc.)with kids present. I worry about those who do this. On the bright side you dont have to get a shot every 7-10 days to keep from having low testosterone and the gels mimic the bodys natural process or diurinal varation. One more thing to note that in females testosterone increases orgasmia and libido. So transfer just enough for this side effect but not a mustache! Make sure to put on clean dry skin and rub gel in vigorously and let dry before putting shirt on. Most gels need a couple of hours before swimming sweating bathing.
Posted by imfletch124 on February 7, 2013 at 11:26 AM · Report this
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Does this highly "questionable" potion even WORK very well!??
Posted by RedOne on February 9, 2013 at 10:43 PM · Report this
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As a 60 year old who used to struggle with low T, I have been using Androgel and/or Testim for five years (depending on what my insurance company will cover at the time), I can attest that they are necessary for quality of life. I have been blessed with no side effects, except for playing basketball three days a week, bicycling twice a week, and the overall energy that helps keep butt off the couch away and from the TV. And of course, being back in the saddle with my wife two to three times a week, that's the best! As far as side affects to our family...take a shower before sex, guys! Your wife will appreciate you in more ways than her not growing a beard :-). And common sense should tell you to keep your shirt on when hugging your grandkids. Finally, if the thought of putting a dab of clear gel on your shoulders or under your arms is disgusting to you...I'm assuming you never use alcohol, prescription drugs, food with preservatives, shampoo, conditioner, soaps, eye drops, deodorant, facial cremes, toilet paper, cough syrup, cold medicine, flu medicine, antacids, aspirin, sun tan lotion, bug spray, and the unending list of items with possible side effects that go in and on our bodies.
Posted by Still rockin! on April 10, 2013 at 6:58 AM · Report this
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dude, you rock. #32 I'm so discouraged and you made me feel so good. I have zero problem with the application of axiron. I have been on it for 3 weeks, and feel no difference. I have noticed my testicles are slightly smaller, but i still cannot get an erection when i need to. If I do i cannot count on it to last at all. If i lose my erection it is simply gone. I worry that tacking axiron will make my testicles stop producing the amount they were making? Will i then be left with a dependency on artificial testosterone for life? I have all of the classic symptoms of low t, my number stink for my age i am half of the lowest number in my normal range. Tell me where this goes from here
Posted by number 9 on April 18, 2013 at 5:36 PM · Report this
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I really find some of these comments quite insulting. I'ma 64 year old man, and for a reason not yet discovered my testosterone level dropped to a low of 18 (a normal range is 250 to 1000) and I was constantly tired and sometimes slept for 20 hours a day. Also, the mood swings were terrible -- I sometimes compared myself to those poor women who have severe PMS. I tried oral, but, strangely, it had virtually no effect at all, not even at the highest reccomended dosage. I then switched to Androgel. My last test showed a count of 550 and I feel alive again. I sleep normal hours and have the energy to get through my day without even a nap. Also, I now remember what sex was all about, and that's been rather enjoyable, to be honest!
Posted by cvmoreau on April 29, 2013 at 3:48 PM · Report this
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I use injectable testosterone mostly because I cannot afford to pay a minimum of 350 dollars a month for androgel. Big pharma is only about the almighty dollar, not about the health and well being of the public. The cost of drugs such as androgel is a reflection not of research or production costs, rather it is a result of the massive level of advertising that goes along with any drug that relates in any way with the male sex organ. As an example, when was the last time you watched an hour of news without having to suffer through three or more boner pill commercials ? The actual cost of a product like androgel is probably more like 90 dollars a liter than 350 dollars for 90 ml.. I haven't experienced any noticeable mood or energy swings over the two week period between injections.
Posted by deejay on April 30, 2013 at 7:32 PM · Report this
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I have been on injections 300mg every two weeks for two months. Free testosterone lab test taken post injection 3 day (peak)and post injection 14 day (trough) were as follows
3 day after
Testosterone 1865
Free test 454
14 day after
Testosterone 319
Free testosterone 54
Doc says axiron will provide steady state of an estimated 500 testosterone score for me with 3 swipes of 30mg.
I am 39 single father with a 16 month old baby.
Doc says put a tshirt on after axiron applicstion and you are fine. I am told it is not dangerous on skin 2-3 hours after. I do not think anyone should worry and if you wife or girlfriend grows a beard than wear an extra tshirt. This stuff is suppose to help. Testopel pellets is still best at $500 every 4 months cost.
Low t sucks and this or anything helps. Good luck everyone and happy ball shrinkage
Posted by King flow on May 3, 2013 at 6:21 PM · Report this
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I'm a 37 year old cancer survivor and require testosterone replacement therapy. Androgel was great, no problems there - I am just trying Axiron for the 30 day trial and will be checked in a month to make sure the levels at this application have started to show results in my bloodwork.. I've been on a 9 month hiatus from T replacement therapy and it's clear how much of a difference this has made.

And to those making the ridiculous comments about side effects, about T replacement not being necessary, or just plain idiots who make comments like the above just because they enjoy the little clicky-noises the keyboard makes - bite me. It must take balls to make such a spectacle of yourself, in which case.. you don't need Axiron.. so piss off and contribute something smart to the discussion..

Posted by thebarbaricnoodle on May 3, 2013 at 11:14 PM · Report this
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I'm a 37 year old cancer survivor and require testosterone replacement therapy. Androgel was great, no problems there - I am just trying Axiron for the 30 day trial and will be checked in a month to make sure the levels at this application have started to show results in my bloodwork.. I've been on a 9 month hiatus from T replacement therapy and it's clear how much of a difference this has made.

And to those making the ridiculous comments about side effects, about T replacement not being necessary, or just plain idiots who make comments like the above just because they enjoy the little clicky-noises the keyboard makes - bite me. It must take balls to make such a spectacle of yourself, in which case.. you don't need Axiron.. so piss off and contribute something smart to the discussion..

Posted by thebarbaricnoodle on May 3, 2013 at 11:16 PM · Report this
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I just saw an ad for Axiron. The first thing that went through my mind was how easily this could be mistaken for underarm deodorant. If someone needs topical ht then do what you have to do. Just make sure that not only is it out of reach of any children, but clearly labeled as a form of testosterone. Preferably with a large prescription label clearly stating its contents. Can never be too careful.
Posted by nwportgirl on May 5, 2013 at 4:50 PM · Report this
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You people need to worry about your own kids and make sure all your partying drugs are in let's say the same place you put guns. Men and women alike need this treatment. I have been on shots for ten years because my testicals quit making test. All my kids know I was on a medication for this without all details and they know not to go into my area where I keep it. I have tried all the gels, but never could achieve the range where I am to be at for my age. I do the shots to myself and take a ester blocker plus hcg so the testicles don't shrink. With that combo blood work is always good checking psa levels and yes, you know the good old manual test. Maybe this axiron is the real deal it's like putting on deodorant.
Posted by Lunger on May 7, 2013 at 5:40 AM · Report this
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I have found this all very interesting reading. I have been on Testosterone replacement therapy for 15 years due to hypogonadism. Started on patches which, in the Australian heat kept falling off and caused a lot of itching. Levels stayed low. Started on Sustanon injections for many years at ten day intervals. My darling wife was trained by the GP to do it for me. I got huge highs then lows, became a grumpy old man, Then, due to constant stealing of shipments of the drug the Government banned it. That was due to the bodybuilders and the motorcycle gangs. Was then given Reandron injections which was the beginning of my problems. Slowly my Creatine levels rose along with my red blood cell count. Off to the Renal physician and Haematologist for exhaustive blood tests. After nine months my levels had fallen due to ceasing Reandron and I'm normal. My pharmacist made up a 10% Testosterone Cream which I have been applying 5 mils a day. My arms and chest end up being covered in the cream and it takes 30 minutes to dry.
A company in Australia (Acrux) has been working on transdermal application of drugs for years and invented Axiron and after many trials here sold the rights to market to Lilly's. I have seen the American TV ads (medicines are not allowed to be advertised on tv in Australia) and found it amusing that half the ad is all warnings. I know the reason that you put it under your armpits because there is less chance of it coming into contact with another. Americans love to sue each other. The liquid dries very quickly and brief contact by another would cause no harm. Only prolonged or repeat contact would. As human beings we are responsible for our actions and it is simple to remember you use it and if your girl wants to suck your armpits have a shower before.
I have now switched from the cream to Axiron and have never been happier with good results although it will take a few weeks to build up in my body. It took six months for my body to clear the Reandron. Hope this helps.
More...
Posted by Michael2 on May 21, 2013 at 3:21 AM · Report this
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Androgel and Testim gels take a long time to dry and waste a lot of time--especially the testim. Furthermore, they're supposed to be applied in the AM after a shower--to avoid applying the new one to the previous day's. I use a hair dryer on the testim for 20-30 minutes, but still hours later my clothes are still clinging to my skin.

They both have the same exact side effect you mentioned about Axiron.

The insertion of pellets that last 4-6 months seems like a good idea but my urologist says that he has reports that the incision is extremely painful for two weeks after insertion---especially if you are thin.

The shot has to be redone every two of three weeks.

So, nothings perfect. However, there is nothing unusual about the side effect you mentioned regarding the Axiron.
Posted by gelman on May 28, 2013 at 6:20 PM · Report this
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#33 I don't know if the Testosterone has an effect on erections. I am 52 and suffer from low-T. Even with low-T I have never had any trouble achieving or maintaining an erection even after orgasm. However, since I started the Testopel implants my desire to have sex or libido has increased as well as my overall energy level.

My doctor says that Axiron is not as effective as Testopel for many reasons (two being the pellets last longer and you don't have to worry about remembering to dose) but the implants (about every 3.5 months) can be painful. Each implant was more painful than the previous with the first one not hurting at all. I am switching to the other side for my fourth implant to give the previous side more time to heal. I get mine in the love handles and have even had some of the pellets back out of the skin. This is not unusual. I just make sure they are flushed and I wash anything that comes in contact with the pellets.

If you don't receive the results you desire with Axiron, you might want to try Testopel. Your activity level is a factor in determining how often you need an implant.

Posted by Nolow-THereNow on June 19, 2013 at 4:35 PM · Report this
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Unbelievable, some people need to grow up people totally agree with comment 34 - really insulting. I wonder how many of those that have left comments saying why can't we just take a pill or" I'm all for dudes getting their junk fixed if it doesn't work, but YOWZA—that's messed up",ctually suffer from testosterone deficiency, and how many know what the actual side effects are. Erectile dysfunction is only one tiny symptom that pales into insignificance when you experience testosterone deficiency.

Lets get it straight, symptoms are - severe weight gain, loss of muscle mass, loss of muscle strength, increased risk of bone fractures, memory loss, cognitive dysfunction, decreased work performance and possible loss of employment, agitation, depression, severe fatigue, erectile dysfunction, loss of libido, and relationship difficulties.

People here are talking about the effects on children coming into contact with the medication, who here is on a blood pressure tablet or a hypoglycaemic for diabetes or birth control pills, (do you leave these lying around the house?) all medication should be locked away if you have young children. If you follow the instructions the risk of accidently spreading the medication onto someone else is negligible.

If a company develops a method of delivering a medication that makes it easier and more effective then fantastic. I've been on testogel for a little over a year for pituitary induced testosterone deficiency- the local lab ranges for blood tests are 10-30, while my last three blood tests were 44, 5 and 10 all on 75 mg of testogel. This is why I started on axiron this morning. So how about we keep the mature discussion happening and silence the ignorance
Posted by PaulyB1965 on August 6, 2013 at 8:57 PM · Report this
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I whole heartedly agree Pauly, some of these posters are simply idiots or young people who haven't figured out where their hearts or minds are just yet. My wife is going through menopause and the treatment is.... you guessed it a deodorant type cream you rub on your inside forearms. Oh gosh I am all for women getting their junk fixed but YOWZA... get a grip, it's called use a little common sense. My doctor told me right now the options are the armpit jell or injections once a month. I don't particularly like injections and it's a pain to go to a doctor once a month. I only wish I could put the jell on that bald spot on the back of my head, hey if it grows hair....
Posted by Al1962 on August 7, 2013 at 9:31 PM · Report this
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The most convenient method of testosterone replacement is transdermal cream using bio-identical testosterone. Get it mixed at double strength, then you use only one pump (1/2 dose), which costs way less and requires one to go to the compounding pharmacist 1/2 as often. And, the amount of cream is not very much, so it can be rubbed in on a portion of one arm for example. Any male using supplemental testosterone should be checked for estradiol levels, as the fat on your body will aromatise some of it to estradiol, raising the risk of prostate cancer and adding fat to your body (female reaction). An aging male on testosterone supplementation will almost for sure have higher levels of estradiol than his wife or a woman of his same age--not a good thing. The good news is that 1/2 mg of Arimidex twice a week will keep your levels normal.

Posted by Herman Wickers on August 14, 2013 at 2:18 PM · Report this
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Axiron works for me great 25 years old an I can now have sex like I'm 18 I suffer from Klinesfelter syndrome it works great once it's dry you can't get it on your spouse or kids it should not be banned people should use their head a little my god
Posted by JesseJackHart on August 22, 2013 at 9:01 AM · Report this
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I have yet to see any mention of exactly how long the stuff is a danger for contact transfer.
Does it remain an issue for 24 hours? If not, then when is it relatively safe for occasional or accidental contact? Oddly, there is no contact information of the manufacturer's website, and although I will ask my doc, I'll bet he has no way to know.
Has anyone gone into this?
Posted by bobjan on August 22, 2013 at 11:53 AM · Report this
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People, Canadian Trimel Pharmacuticals have successfully concluded phase III with Compleo TRT and the FDA is expected to approve it in February 2014. It's an intra nasal gel that you spray up your nose. Zero risk of transferral to other people. It will be the only TRT on the market without a black box warning.
Patients participating in the trials say the will shift to Compleo because it made them fell better than the transdermal product they were using. It's gonna be a TRT revolution.
Posted by TRT man on September 15, 2013 at 3:23 AM · Report this
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I have been on Androgel, fortestin, injections and now Axiron. I have had issues with "increased urination at night, trouble starting your urine stream, having to pass urine many times during the day, having an urge that you have to go to the bathroom right away, having a urine accident, being unable to pass urine or weak urine flow". These are all side effects of the ones listed above, except injections. I am thinking of going back to injections. Anyone have any thoughts on injections as opposed to the others?
Posted by iosua on September 18, 2013 at 7:39 AM · Report this
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I had ZERO libido, weakness, lack of enthusiasm, kind of "just existing joylessly." Tested very low to below normal T for a guy in his early 40's. After a few weeks on this stuff, most of my symptoms are gone. Sadly, the libido has only improved a little bit. But my mood is improved & it seems like my brain works better.
The most surprising effect has been a rapid increase in muscle mass & improved muscle tone. Just 30 minutes of push-ups & work with free weights a couple days a week has had amazing results. Exercise has never paid off like this. (Maybe I've been on the low end of testosterone all my life.) I'm a little worried about what will happen if my body compensates for the Axiron and reduces its natural T production.
Contaminating my family members is a major concern. I'm fortunate enough to have a private bathroom and a schedule that allows me to put the stuff on when I won't contact anyone for the supposed 2 hours it takes for the stuff to absorb into your skin.
I would like to see some research on just how easy it is to spread this stuff around. Does the dried on residue flake off throughout the day? If being mixed with alcohol doesn't break the testosterone down, what does? Will it decay naturally over time?
Posted by Plug on September 30, 2013 at 1:27 PM · Report this
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I am the wife of someone who is using Axiron, and I am paranoid as hell about the side effects. My 5 year old suddenly has a lot of leg hair. And I suddenly I am losing hair. He went off Axiron, and my hair grew back. He went back on Axiron...and suddenly my hair is insanely fine and breaking off again. Is there a connection? It feels like there is.

I was already tested for low iron, thyroid issues, etc. I am fine. The only thing I can possibly connect is the Axiron exposure. I never was tested for my testosterone levels because I am a WOMAN. But maybe I should look into it. What the hell? Do I have to start wearing shower shoes? Make the bed with separate linens? He doesn't sleep with a shirt on, so I am sure we're all soaking it all right up. I'm a little pissed about this whole Axiron thing, to be honest.
Posted by thewife on October 17, 2013 at 10:19 AM · Report this
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Why not just take a pill or get the injection... For my JUNK>>> Really!@!
It sounds pretty simple but even more you sound like what the product is meant for! A JunkHead!!!!

The Armpit Paste is about $410 for those of us with Junk and no insurance... the "pop a pill method' is about $12 a tablet and the "get a injection' is around $2800 every 3 months... So thats why PRICK meds aren't as cheap as your blog... How about promoting decipline in not leaving JUNK meds out for little Johny or Susie so they don't get in the Junk Meds... Pubic Beard.

Really cute blog... Dick
Posted by Chris Beck on October 29, 2013 at 3:35 PM · Report this
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Wow. I am 49 and have been told for a couple years I had low T. Unfortunately I did not know what that meant. I was embarrassed to ask the doc why it was low and what could be done. I was more humiliated that I had to talk about ED. Never realizing that everything I was experiencing was all related. No energy, no desire for sex, was too tired etc. I went to a urologist for something else and this guy was straightforward with me and so the use of Axiron Began. on my 3rd bottle now and I feel so much better. My wife has not grown a beard or anything else. It dries in a few minutes and I always wear a shirt anyway so no worries. Yes, it's true give it time and you will feel like your 25 again. As for the ED, Levitra works great. You can't be embarrassed or to proud to ask your Doc for help. Wish I would have years ago- lost to much good times.
Posted by Normal again on January 3, 2014 at 2:36 PM · Report this
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I am a woman and did MMA at a gym. During this time I grew facial beard hair, had increased rage, and sex drive, and basically all kinds of mess. I had no idea what was going on. I had my hormones checked at the request of my gyno and it turns out my testosterone was out the roof. This is SERIOUS. During this time I was considering getting pregnant and if I had my baby would have been either a Super male or a female with both sex organs according to my gyno. To leave the responsibility of gel up to the consumer is insane. This could have ruined my whole life and I would have never have understood. I have been away from it for a year and I STILL have a beard. I am pissed and I am frustrated that men are not forced to use a patch. Women have used patches for hormones for years. Keeping your cabinet locked isn't going to help if two times a week in a gym causes me to grow a beard.
Posted by sml on January 17, 2014 at 7:28 PM · Report this
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Patent protected new medication costs are extremely high and flat out abusive and are effectively exclusionary. When drug companies profit, not earn, yearly to the tune of many billions of dollars they should at the least be expected to protect the affordable low cost of generic drugs within their control which I have seen double and triple in cost this month. Such practices cause people to see their care cut in half or greater, against their will and that of their doctor.
Posted by HappyQuails on January 28, 2014 at 6:02 PM · Report this
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Been there, did the injection for years, androgel for a few and now Axiron for a few months. The reasons for the changes - high hemocrites. With the Axiron, level of T is more stable and better blood chemistry. Unfortunately, erection is still a problem, however other symptoms subsided. For those that mock us, low T guys... wishing you walked in our moccasins for a while. You will change your tune quickly.
Posted by Been there too on February 18, 2014 at 7:55 PM · Report this
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you're an idiot!!!!!
Posted by Mike Hunt on March 4, 2014 at 11:28 AM · Report this
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Not sure if people here are aware but there are multiple lawsuits pending over these low testosterone products like Axiron. Apparently people were suffering heart attacks, strokes, and some people even died after taking testosterone replacement therapy.
Posted by TheStranger84 on March 6, 2014 at 8:43 AM · Report this
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Testoterone Axiron rocks. Those not using and commenting are IGNORANT. That's not an insult, it's a fact. I've been on Fortesta and Axiron for 12 months at age 56 and my levels went from 250 to 1200. FACT. I've decreased to half below recommended dosage but my levels remain over 1000. That's a good problem as I run, bike, swim and lift 6 days a week, before and after the treatment. Difference is I need less naps and body looks pretty amazing. Sex w wife is much better and more often. Contaminating anyone else with Testost. is just stupid to comment on because you have to be a moron to not take precautions as with any prescr. drug. All the negative comments are RIDICULOUS. If you are contemplating treatment and need it, IMHO DO IT. It can change your life for real.
Posted by TestoUser on March 7, 2014 at 1:13 PM · Report this
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Testoterone Axiron rocks. Those not using and commenting are IGNORANT. That's not an insult, it's a fact. I've been on Fortesta and Axiron for 12 months at age 56 and my levels went from 250 to 1200. FACT. I've decreased to half below recommended dosage but my levels remain over 1000. That's a good problem as I run, bike, swim and lift 6 days a week, before and after the treatment. Difference is I need less naps and my body looks pretty amazing. Sex w wife is much better and more often. Contaminating anyone else with Testost. is just stupid to comment on because you have to be a moron to not take precautions as with any prescr. drug. As for "THE WIFE" Get a grip, your hair falling out is not a symptom. Get checked for PARANOIA while you're at it. All the negative comments are RIDICULOUS. If you are contemplating treatment and need it, IMHO DO IT. It can change your life for real.
Posted by TestyUser on March 7, 2014 at 1:20 PM · Report this
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I'll be losing my marriage soon because there is not a doctor in Florida that will prescribe axiron for me. Florida sucks...so does the rest of this country. First my oxycodone had to be taken away that I needed for arthritis and now Axiron is taken away.
Posted by godsucks on March 21, 2014 at 7:36 PM · Report this

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