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schmacky 1
Wait, can someone tell me when "the 99%" became 98%? And why? I'm a little behind on my liberal memes...
Posted by schmacky on December 6, 2012 at 8:53 AM
badstone 2
@1 probably because top democrats are still pushing the idea that 250k a year in household income makes you "middle class". That's about the cutoff for the top 2%.
Posted by badstone on December 6, 2012 at 9:12 AM
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I can sort of understand why liberals hate investment bankers, but why are you guys always bashing to oil companies? What do you think the world runs on, apple sauce?
Posted by Ken Mehlman on December 6, 2012 at 9:57 AM
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Ken @ 3 When you say "the world" you really mean the economy, right? The World's not worried about climate change, the world will be just fine, still spinning, still round, still green and blue (probably), but the economy - you know that you think of as the world, is gonna be fucked.
Posted by JAT on December 6, 2012 at 10:23 AM
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@4 By "the world" I mean 21st century human civilization.
Posted by Ken Mehlman on December 6, 2012 at 10:46 AM
Pick1 6
@3 The world running on them makes them think they can skirt the rules, and sometimes that leads to disaster.

*cough* BP *cough*

If a company cared they would have greater investments into clean energy rather than spend all their money lobbying in DC to muddy the debate on climate change.

So yes, the world does run on them, and they wish to keep it that way despite the fact that cleaner, safer sources of energy could be readily made available.
Posted by Pick1 on December 6, 2012 at 11:31 AM
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@6 "cleaner, safer sources of energy could be readily made available."

I don't think that's true. I don't blame Obama to much for the Solyndra debacle. However, I think it is a good example of how the alternative energy industry has failed to create a viable alternative to the fossil fuel economy.
Posted by Ken Mehlman on December 6, 2012 at 12:04 PM
Pick1 8
@7 Nobody is willing to invest in making energy truly available to everybody because of the profit margins. It's the same issue Tesla faced in 1917.

Just imagine if Nikola Tesla had lived another 10 years? Or if anyone had been willing to invest in his visions towards the end.
Posted by Pick1 on December 6, 2012 at 12:38 PM
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@8 Obama invested quite a bit of tax-payer money in Solyndra, it still went belly-up. Ethanol is another example of a renewable, though not green, energy source that doesn't work very well despite generous public subsidies.
Posted by Ken Mehlman on December 6, 2012 at 12:50 PM
Pick1 10
@9 When creating and embracing new forms of energy, failures like those are just part of the process. How many people tried to capitalize on fossil fuels that failed originally? How many refineries went out of business?

New technology is inherently full of risk, but the rewards are great and in this case, very, very necessary.
Posted by Pick1 on December 6, 2012 at 3:49 PM

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