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Huckabee is an idiot. Know who was a strong advocate of Christianity who did something even worse than today? Anders Breivik. Belief in a sky wizard doesn't preclude acting violently on irrational impulse.
Posted by Tawnos on December 14, 2012 at 2:15 PM · Report this
Well he's in probably right in the sense that if we created Christian Madrassas' and forced every child to attend—thus brainwashing them into little Christian Taliban—there probably would be fewer mass shootings.

In their place there would be death camps for homosexuals and atheists.
Posted by tkc on December 14, 2012 at 2:20 PM · Report this
Pope Peabrain 3
More proof religion is a mental illness.
Posted by Pope Peabrain on December 14, 2012 at 2:21 PM · Report this
Man, fuck you Mike, just fuck you. Self righteous prick. And Maurice Clemmons means what in this context?
Posted by Randy Beaver on December 14, 2012 at 2:23 PM · Report this
Max Solomon 5
God is omnipotent and omnipresent. God cannot be removed from anywhere. Do you not believe that, Huckabee? How little faith you have.
Posted by Max Solomon on December 14, 2012 at 2:25 PM · Report this
Gurldoggie 6
Fuck off Mike.
Posted by Gurldoggie on December 14, 2012 at 2:28 PM · Report this
"Should we be so surprised that schools have become a place for carnage because we’ve made it a palce where we don’t want to talk about eternity, life, responsibility, accountability?"

If you're an adult and you still fail to grasp the simple fact that you don't need God in order to talk about any of these things, you have some serious, fundamental issues. Tell us, Mr. Huckabee...what exactly is your problem?
Posted by stating the obvious on December 14, 2012 at 2:30 PM · Report this
kim in portland 8
Fucking god-bothering idiot. Duct tape his gob closed.
Posted by kim in portland on December 14, 2012 at 2:30 PM · Report this
Hey Mike, I thought your god was all-powerful, all-seeing and all-knowing; if that's so, how could you possibly remove him from ANYwhere? Are you seriously trying to argue that this whacked out freak elected to commit mass-murder on a bunch of innocent school children because he believed GOD COULDN'T STOP HIM, having been summarily banned from the classroom?

THAT is surely some fucked up shit of epic proportions...
Posted by COMTE on December 14, 2012 at 2:40 PM · Report this
Lissa 11
That man needs to shut his awful mouth. Like forever.
Posted by Lissa on December 14, 2012 at 2:48 PM · Report this
Cascadian Bacon 12
Yea cause God never causes people to kill each other.
Posted by Cascadian Bacon on December 14, 2012 at 2:54 PM · Report this
If Huckabee's omnipotent god existed, nothing could ever happen without that god's consent. In that scenario, everything is God's will. Choosing not to act is morally equal to acting, when one has perfect knowledge of all possible outcomes. In Huckabee's universe, God killed those kids.
Posted by pox on December 14, 2012 at 3:52 PM · Report this
treacle 14
So when, exactly, *did* people talk about "eternity, life, responsibility, accountability" in schools? Was that common curriculum when Mr Huckabee was a lad? Or are those topics more appropriate for family discussions? I totally recall "responsibility and accountability" being important parts of my school education. "Life" and "eternity" are somewhat more vague topics.
Posted by treacle on December 14, 2012 at 4:06 PM · Report this
bleedingheartlibertarian 15
I'll at least give The Corner credit for knowing when to just shut the fuck up, for once.
Posted by bleedingheartlibertarian on December 14, 2012 at 4:09 PM · Report this
Simone 16
No form of harsh language can describe the horribly stupid comment Huckabee said.
Posted by Simone on December 14, 2012 at 4:25 PM · Report this
All the predictable comments from NRA types just leave me numb, but the sense of rage this comment evoked. I wish there was a hell because Huckabee would burn there forever.
Posted by MikeB on December 14, 2012 at 4:29 PM · Report this
Fuck you, Mike.
Posted by magdaddy on December 14, 2012 at 4:36 PM · Report this
Mike Fuck-a-bee can go fuck himself. Unfortunately his head is so far up his ass he probably can't fit anything else in there.
Posted by StuckInUtah on December 14, 2012 at 5:17 PM · Report this
merry 20
Yeah, and my co-worker just smugly said that the shooter won't be eligible for Resurrection, either, come the Resurrectin' Time....

Her opinion has just as much relevance as Mike Fuck-a-bee's....
Posted by merry on December 14, 2012 at 5:42 PM · Report this
merry 21
IOW, none.

Posted by merry on December 14, 2012 at 6:05 PM · Report this
If we hadn't outlawed prayer at Batman premieres and in suburban shopping malls, none of that would have happened either, right?
Posted by RonK, Seattle on December 14, 2012 at 7:04 PM · Report this
This never would have happened if God was armed.
Posted by excitablerooster on December 14, 2012 at 8:05 PM · Report this
TreGibbs 24
Fuck you, you fat, gluttonous ideologue. How dare you ! There is no God, because if there were you and Bryan Fisher would be dead - not 20 elementary school children !!!
Posted by TreGibbs on December 14, 2012 at 8:21 PM · Report this
Regardless of opinions, it is telling when people use profanity and vulgarity and viciously attack when they have a difference of opinion. What ever happened to civility and tolerance? The left seems to exhibit all of these very angry traits. I also find it interesting to see how much anality is used to express opinions. Just tell Mr. Huckabee you respectfully disagree, otherwise your offense is much greater than his.
Posted by tolerance on December 14, 2012 at 10:47 PM · Report this
@28: This is not merely a difference of opinion. This is a veiled sneer at people who died and are suffering implying that they are bad people and deserve it. If it's in bad taste to discuss gun control after such tragedies, surely it is even worse taste to suggest that a person was hurt because they didn't act within a certain religion's dogma?

And for Mr. Huckabee, the next time something terrible happens to him, I hope we will all point out that his god clearly has forsaken him since his prayers didn't help him. Maybe we should take a page from his people and pray for this life lesson to happen sooner rather than later.*

* I personally do not believe that prayer works. However, for bigots like him who do believe that praying for bad things to happen to someone does in fact work, I say that it should be legally recognized as a threat. It doesn't matter if the gun is loaded - mens rea is mens rea.
Posted by MemeGene on December 15, 2012 at 4:29 AM · Report this
sheiler 41
what about the Catholic schools? God ran rampant in those schools and still those priests....
Posted by sheiler on December 15, 2012 at 4:49 AM · Report this
The God of genocide and capricious death? (read Joshua & Judges) I think we've had more than enough of that one.
Posted by Sir Vic on December 15, 2012 at 8:18 AM · Report this
bleedingheartlibertarian 43
@28: just because someone can rub two synapses together enough to form an opinion does not mean that said opinion deserves respect.
Posted by bleedingheartlibertarian on December 15, 2012 at 8:32 AM · Report this
GreenmanTN 44
Huckabee's words are awful, but not as bad as the right-wing American 'Family' Association's Bryan Fischer, who said the same thing but even more explicitly. Fischer said those people died because God is "gentleman" who "doesn't go where he's not welcome" and that's why He didn't save those children or teachers. (I'm surprised he didn't throw in some blame for gays while he was at it- he usually does. Hurricanes, tornadoes, etc. 'the gays did it.')

The bodies of the children and teachers who died yesterday weren't even cold before Fischer and Huckabee started trying to exploit this for their right-wing religious/political agenda. Despicable! And that's true even if you ARE a believer because both seem to imply that none of the victims were religious when that isn't true, but the omnipotent all-knowing creator of the universe who COULD have saved them didn't because there isn't sufficient praying to Him at that school. Who *would* pray to that sort of petty, narcissistic deity?!
Posted by GreenmanTN on December 15, 2012 at 8:44 AM · Report this
Lissa 45
To the new, and unregistered, posters, welcome to Slog, or as we like to call it, Fuckin' Slog!
Posted by Lissa on December 15, 2012 at 9:38 AM · Report this
What a load of shit. Huckabee is an idiot.
Posted by MsBeal on December 15, 2012 at 4:59 PM · Report this
Guns are not the problem. They need to be guided by a person to do damage.

Neglectful parents who (to their benefit) didn't learn how to model constructive and pro-social behavior for their children are a dangerous, growing phenomenon in our society.

Who's regulating/monitoring parenting skills? Because we become parents doesn't give us a "free ticket" from having mental health and interpersonal communication issues which need attention.

Metaphoric to a person who seeks to acquire a gun - a parent who is not "qualified" (has no "background check" or monitoring done for parenting/communication skills) is potentially very dangerous. Further, parents "wrap their hands around" a child, guide/"aim" their direction, and, ultimately, pull the trigger.

What we really need to give our attention to is not the gun, but who's behind the trigger?
Posted by friendlyneighborhood on December 17, 2012 at 8:33 AM · Report this
@48, are you saying that it's the shooter's parents' fault for not raising him properly? Because the guy's older brother seems to have a fairly normal life.

Possibly these things are a little more complicated that you make them out to be.
Posted by clashfan on December 17, 2012 at 10:44 AM · Report this
one Nation Under a Groove 51
As the Nation Reflects So Should We
We here at Seattle School District Exposed would like to take a moment to acknowledge resent events. The loss of 26 innocent people (20 children and 6 adults) at Sandy Hook Elementary has rocked us and the nation to the very core. Our deepest sympathy and condolences go out to the families of the victims and the families of children who's lives have been forever changed.

It has been no secret that SSDE has felt the the Seattle School District has been failing to adequately provide security and protection to our children. In light of this recent tragedy we feel obligated to once again bring this matter to the forefront.

After looking into the matter during the school board election we have found that while "Security Specialists" are assigned to High Schools and Middle Schools no Elementary School has been assigned one. The rationale behind not giving Elementary Schools "Security Specialists" is that there aren't enough "severe" incidents at Elementary Schools to need "Security Specialists". In short, employing a "Security Specialist" to stay at an Elementary School is not cost effective. A better business model being employing "Security Specialists" to mobile patrols that conduct checks and respond to Elementary Schools.

The ideal situation would be that no school would ever need security. This however is sadly not the case. While the need for security has been reduced to triage, it has been applied wrongly in this situation. The school districts criteria for security has obviously been about severe instances among students. When one looks at the elementary level of "severe" instances one must look out side the student body for the threat, children are more vulnerable to adults than any preteen or teen. It is the violence of others that we must take into account.

Every High School in the district has at least two security guards some three. Every middle school has one. But not one is assigned to an Elementary School. These "Mobile Security Specialists" are to make security checks and respond to "Severe" incidents at Elementary Schools. The thought that they respond to trouble is somewhat comforting, but that they would have a response time like the police is not.

This is something that we feel needs to be addressed. This is not meant to be confrontational or political, now is not the time for hyperbole. We as a community, and as a city, have to look at these children and ask ourselves if our pride is worth more to us than protecting our children.
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Posted by one Nation Under a Groove on December 29, 2012 at 12:14 PM · Report this

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