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Dr_Awesome 1
Unintended consequence: The rural people will then complain about how bad the government is at providing services, and use it to justify more cuts, and privatization.

Fuck 'em, let the USPS shut down every rural P.O. and let the rural hicks cope. I know, federal law prohibits that. But it would be a nice stick to the eye of the rural people.
Posted by Dr_Awesome on December 19, 2012 at 9:00 AM · Report this
@1 they'll complain anyway. Charles is right. Fuck 'em.
Posted by tkc on December 19, 2012 at 9:19 AM · Report this
Fenrox 3
I would rather fix USPS. Give it more money and address whatever it's problems are and set it up with a plan of action for the next 15 years. Fixing things is easy, repairing things while under attack is hard.
Posted by Fenrox on December 19, 2012 at 9:20 AM · Report this
Fnarf 4
What's wrong with USPS is that they are being murdered by Republicans. The trouble they are experiencing is entirely caused by the absurd decades-in-advance pension investment scheme, which no private company has ever been required to do, but which Congress has saddled the post office in a deliberate attempt to destroy it.
Posted by Fnarf on December 19, 2012 at 9:33 AM · Report this
dirac 5
Everyone is right here, Fnarf especially. There is no financial loss on the part of USPS. This crisis--as with the current fiscal cliff nonsense--is totally manufactured.
Posted by dirac on December 19, 2012 at 9:35 AM · Report this
this guy I know in Spokane 6
What @4 said. Plus they get zero tax dollars, so all this ridiculous pension prepayment nonsense is supposed to be paid for out of their steadily dwindling revenues.
Posted by this guy I know in Spokane on December 19, 2012 at 9:36 AM · Report this
tried to support usps with my xmas packages this year. the hours are so bad that i could never make it b/c i have to work full time regular hours. fedex is open until 11 pm.
Posted by ng53 on December 19, 2012 at 10:02 AM · Report this
Chris Govella 8
@3 is right on too. The populist outrage that would defund the USPS would be a self-inflicted wound to rural areas. Cheap delivery of messages is too important and too powerful a concept to give up on, at least, until the government gets high speed internet access to everyone and we can use email instead.
Posted by Chris Govella on December 19, 2012 at 10:09 AM · Report this
Gerald Fnord 9
Funny that Tea Partiers aren't up-in-arms over what's being done to a Constitutionally-mandated government service (Constitution 1:7), and one set up without regard to whether it operate at a loss or no.
Posted by Gerald Fnord on December 19, 2012 at 10:14 AM · Report this
biffp 10
Saturday delivery would be a good start on cuts.
Posted by biffp on December 19, 2012 at 11:06 AM · Report this
Kinison 11
Close the USPS and work a deal with Pitney Bowes to offer machines so people can mail packages themselves.
Posted by Kinison on December 19, 2012 at 11:16 AM · Report this
Max Solomon 12
twist boner's nuts until the teatards repeal this absurd pre-payment for pensions. make it a condition of this grand bargain fiscal cliff lame duck session bullshit.

then pull his nuts off and stuff them up his drunk ass just because he sucks.
Posted by Max Solomon on December 19, 2012 at 11:46 AM · Report this
Fnarf 13
@11, mail the package themselves HOW, exactly? Pitney Bowes makes postage meters. Unless you believe that putting the stamp on is what causes the package to lift up off the counter and magically fly thousands of miles away, you're not saying anything here.
Posted by Fnarf on December 19, 2012 at 12:10 PM · Report this
There are many ways to starve the beast.

"John Anderson tells us that first we've got to reduce spending before we can reduce taxes. Well, if you've got a kid that's extravagant, you can lecture him all you want to about his extravagance. Or you can cut his allowance and achieve the same end much quicker."
Posted by anon1256 on December 19, 2012 at 12:31 PM · Report this
Max Solomon 15
@14: government spending has grown at a much reduced rate under obama. untold scores of government workers at all levels are unemployed since 2008.

so we did cut spending. can we raise revenue now?

or doesn't the GOP actually give a shit about the deficit?
Posted by Max Solomon on December 19, 2012 at 12:55 PM · Report this
Will in Seattle 16
What @2 said. Fuck em!
Posted by Will in Seattle on December 19, 2012 at 1:09 PM · Report this
Timrrr 17
No, no, no... you're thinking about it all wrong.

The rest of the the nation's businesses should be required to live up to the same pre-pension investment standards as the USPS.

What's good for the gander...
Posted by Timrrr on December 19, 2012 at 1:34 PM · Report this
@15 - Not only the GOP doesn't give a shit about the deficit but there is every reason to think that it is purposeful: "so we have the tax relief plan [...] that now provides a new kind—a fiscal straightjacket for Congress. And that's good for the taxpayers, and it's incredibly positive news if you're worried about a federal government that has been growing at a dramatic pace over the past eight years and it has been."
Posted by anon1256 on December 19, 2012 at 1:49 PM · Report this
James McDaniel 19
"Without the [unecessary, Republican-legislated pre-funding] pension payment, USPS would have a $1.5 billion surplus instead of a $20 billion shortfall." -…
Posted by James McDaniel on December 19, 2012 at 11:18 PM · Report this
yucca flower 20
Junk mail is killing the US Post Office. Those mailers marked "Occupant" and "Current Resident" are the ones costing loads of money. Every time they're marked "return to sender" or "refused" the US Post Office has to return them to the sender at a loss.
Posted by yucca flower on December 20, 2012 at 7:36 PM · Report this

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