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sperifera 1
Those 4.3 million NRA members comprise less than 1.4% of the US population.
Posted by sperifera on December 21, 2012 at 3:42 PM · Report this
Sargon Bighorn 2
Good point, Ms Sperifera, but that 1.4% is VERY active, while only 33% of the American public bothers to get involved at all in voting for President (about 120 million citizens voted in 2012). As we learn, being a minority does not mean being silent and ineffective. IF America wants an end to Gun violence lots and lots and lots of people are going to have to get involved, and the track record of popular involvement is not encouraging.
Posted by Sargon Bighorn on December 21, 2012 at 3:48 PM · Report this
sperifera 3
Completely agree, @2, my point being that we need to can the "there's no way we can defeat the NRA, they're too big" attitude that is so pervasive. We, the 98.6% can bring about change. -Mr. Sperifera
Posted by sperifera on December 21, 2012 at 3:55 PM · Report this
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Why bother regulating anything at all if we can't even regulate the one thing that sprays death upon countless Americans? Why do we regulate ladders? Why swimming pools? Why, when I open a bottle of vitamins, do I see a "protective seal" for my safety? I don't care about regulating vitamin packaging. I care about regulating semi-automatic assault rifles.
Posted by anotheraaron on December 21, 2012 at 4:08 PM · Report this
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Could they provide a good, simple definition of the assault weapons they demand a ban for?
Posted by GermanSausage on December 21, 2012 at 4:16 PM · Report this
Will in Seattle 6
2/3 of all NRA members, when polled, agree with the plan from Demand A Plan.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on December 21, 2012 at 4:28 PM · Report this
Dougsf 7
Whoa, that small pile of celebs comprises probably 50% of my television viewing in the last 10 years.
Posted by Dougsf on December 21, 2012 at 4:37 PM · Report this
SRJ 8
I propose an additional policy of an owner's complete responsibility for how a gun is used, regardless of who fires it. Shouldn't an owner of a deadly weapon make absolutely, positively sure that no one other than himself has any possible access to that weapon? If a kid gets his hands on it, if it can be and is stolen from the owner, or if someone other than the owner uses it to commit suicide, the owner is held negligent for allowing that weapon to be used.
Posted by SRJ on December 21, 2012 at 5:01 PM · Report this
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn 9
@5

Why bother? It's more fun to to listen to you clowns repeating your same daily talking points than to engage with you.

Any time you get a serious answer to your demands, your cognitive dissonance kicks in and your brain erases every fact you've been given. You revert back to square one and start chanting from the top of your script.

This is why everyone laughed at the NRA's so-called "plan" today. They're simply not serious about real solutions. They're job is obstruction. Your job is obstruction. Everyone can see it.
Posted by Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn http://youtu.be/zu-akdyxpUc on December 21, 2012 at 5:01 PM · Report this
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@9

Seems there's a surplus of a lot of people who aren't very serious about real solutions.
Posted by GermanSausage on December 21, 2012 at 5:25 PM · Report this
johnnie 11
Shoot celebrities, not... Whatever, just shoot celebrities.
Posted by johnnie on December 21, 2012 at 11:14 PM · Report this
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We have stricter laws for Driver's Licenses than for guns. Written and operation tests, renewal requirements every few years, etc. If we had those kind of requirements (and some others in order to possess and renew your gun ownership) it might filter out some of the crazies.
Posted by fotoeve on December 21, 2012 at 11:16 PM · Report this
Andy Niable 13
Now get 60 votes or more in the Senate, 218 votes or more in the House, Obama's pen poised to sign it, and make sure you can convince 5 folks on SCOTUS, and we're home.

Congressional Switchboard: 202-224-3121
Posted by Andy Niable on December 22, 2012 at 12:33 AM · Report this
watchout5 14
How about mandatory gun safes? Especially for bigger weapons that don't have a specific hunting use. Maybe for more than 2 or 3 guns? If someone's willing to spend that much time and effort collecting guns they should have to prove they own a safe that can hold them when they aren't in use. I don't think we should require use of them, but I know from experience that when you give someone the tools to be safer normally they are safer without having to tell them, it's just about having the tools and it should be seen as an expense that if you want that many guns please show me that you're not just lying them around your home. Cheers.
Posted by watchout5 http://www.overclockeddrama.com on December 22, 2012 at 2:29 AM · Report this
Max Solomon 15
@5: can you make 1 suggestion that would have kept semi-automatic weapons out the hands of any of the shooters in the 4 incidents since thrursday 12/13?

or are you just waiting to pick demand a plan's suggestions apart?
Posted by Max Solomon on December 22, 2012 at 8:22 AM · Report this
Max Solomon 16
@5: can you make 1 suggestion that would have kept semi-automatic weapons out the hands of any of the shooters in the 4 incidents since thursday 12/13?

or are you just waiting to pick demand a plan's suggestions apart?
Posted by Max Solomon on December 22, 2012 at 8:22 AM · Report this
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@16 There is no plan that could have kept guns out of the hands of any of the shooters hands. You guys just have a new cause to get round.
Posted by _db_ on December 22, 2012 at 9:31 AM · Report this
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@15 by all means

If it's a good plan then great, if it's a bad plan that would never work, expect it to get pulled apart.
Posted by GermanSausage on December 22, 2012 at 10:51 AM · Report this
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Is there a good, local way to become involved other than e-mailing and donating money? I would love to donate my time and energy to this cause, but can't seem to find anything in Seattle.
Posted by asquaredroot on December 31, 2012 at 2:49 PM · Report this
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I donated money, signed the petition, and e-mailed Inslee and Obama... but I would love to be more involved locally.

Is there any way I can donate time or energy to Demand a Plan or other gun control advocacy groups here in Seattle?
Posted by asquaredroot on December 31, 2012 at 2:53 PM · Report this

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