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pragmatic 1
Speak for your own shitty cooking Charles, many of us enjoy and bother to learn how to cook.
Posted by pragmatic on January 10, 2013 at 9:53 AM · Report this
Fnarf 2
The aristocracy may be a big influence on fancy Michelin-starred dining in Paris, but not so much in the hinterlands of America, where every little town had its diner or lunch counter. The real origin of the restaurant is the public house, or inn, going back many centuries, and often in places a real aristocrat would fear to tread. Whether these places featured "food that's been prepared by those who really know what they're doing" is an open question.

For a Marxist you really don't seem to know a lot about the working classes, Charles.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on January 10, 2013 at 10:21 AM · Report this
Hernandez 3
...said Charles as he sighed deeply, after burning the Top Ramen yet again.
Posted by Hernandez http://hernandezlist.blogspot.com on January 10, 2013 at 10:23 AM · Report this
thelyamhound 4
If we can afford it. Since many of us can't (but for perhaps once every week or two), we've learned to cook well so that home cooking doesn't seem like a step down.
Posted by thelyamhound http://thebayinghound.blogspot.com on January 10, 2013 at 10:40 AM · Report this
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This still doesn't explain the Cheesecake Factory.
Posted by decidedlyodd on January 10, 2013 at 10:53 AM · Report this
keshmeshi 6
The number of unbearably shitty restaurant food, even and especially in urban "paradises" like New York, I've had over the years says otherwise. There are certain things I won't order in a restaurant (scrambled eggs, bacon, omelettes, soup) because I know, invariably, the cook will fuck it up.
Posted by keshmeshi on January 10, 2013 at 11:08 AM · Report this
dirac 7
Yes to what @2 and @6 said. This argument that urban life is some wonderful genesis of materialist cosmotopia gets tiring. Ever hear of phrases like "home cooking" or "like mom used to make?" Some of that is ignorance, granted, yet with a kernel of truth. People didn't need a sanctioned urban establishment to pass down the craft of good cooking.

Who are you trying to convince by the way?
Posted by dirac on January 10, 2013 at 1:27 PM · Report this
Fifty-Two-Eighty 8
I doubt that Charles has ever had "home cooking" for one day in his life. Too bad. A good bowl of soup, some meatloaf, biscuits and gravy, real mac and cheese, a grilled cheese sandwich — these are some of the best things in life.
Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty http://www.nra.org on January 10, 2013 at 1:37 PM · Report this
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Charles--
The invention of haute cuisine was never about democratizing good food. It was never even really about good food. It was first and foremost about *new* food.
All you need to do to understand this is to go somewhere that still has a genuine and genuinely old tradition of cooking. (america doesn't. Seattle even less so than much of the country.) provided you avoid the sectors emptied out by real poverty and deprivation, you will find ample true examples of democratic good food.
To take java as one example (since i've lived there half a dozen years): even if the tradition doesnt perfectly match my taste--i tend to go more for italian--you can find truly excellent, varied, and complex cuisine at any intersection in any town, and almost any village--for pennies. Where food is being murdered in java is in the big cities (mainly jakarta and surabaya), where fashion and money and too little taste are replacing good, widely affordable food with overpriced, unhealthy slop thats supposed to emulate cosmopolitan offerings.
It is really difficult to take your attacks on decentralized cooking seriously, when it runs so flagrantly contrary to what food actually tastes like. But after that video on chicken fried steak, i guess you arent even public taste enemy number one at the slog, so why do i even bother.
Posted by Xtoph on January 10, 2013 at 3:54 PM · Report this

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